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[PANZERBUNNY]

Stop.

They don't need kick starters.

Since when did MWO become a welfare program?

If the game isn't on a sustaining fiscal path it should probably be drowned like a bag of kittens and we can all move onto something else.

The light at the end of the tunnel being a Clan Founders program and millions falling from the sky should be enough for us to get our lobby.

Kick starter being used by Corporate entities with the funding behind them seems so very wrong.

[Corvus Antaka]

Yeah lets do a kickstarter for more maps too so PGI can hire more map makers since they won't let the community help them for free

[Krell Darkmoon]

Huh, guess he was super-ceral about his wanting to Pay for a Lobby.

Tell you want, send all the money you'd like to Burn to someone who could use it.

[AlexEss]

listen to the latest nogutsnogalaxy (nr #64) for some info on the how and what of lobby and stuff.

But for the lazy people.. it will be in game in two months or so.

[Thirdstar]

I'm constantly amazed by the community's ability to throw good money after bad. Or at least attempt to.

Guess it really IS made up of old men.

[PANZERBUNNY]

People should be asking for a kick starter so they can keep consumables as MC purchases out of the game.

Now that would be money well spent.

[Training Instructor]

I don't understand all the vitriol and mocking of the OP.

He's basically calling out PGI for talking about how they have "limited resources", and proposing a method to provide some targeted resources to achieve something the players want. If it was successful, imagine how much you could achieve with a second round of funding.

The OP proposed a quick and realistic solution to a problem, and got flamed for it. He's basically proposing to target funding for specific player requests, rather than hand the developers money in the form of MC purchases and allow them to develop more cockpit items and silly camo patterns to sell for ridiculous prices.

I support the OP 100%, I think it's a smart idea. I'd be more inclined to give $5-20 to specific projects than hand $50 blindly to developers who haven't exactly shown they have a grasp on the game. *See every ECM/Raven3L complaint thread ever*

Tell me what my money is going to be spent on. Don't give me some irritating hipster Garth response to my inquiries. I'm over 30, you can talk to me like an adult.

[Thorn Hallis]

Thirdstar, on 17 March 2013 - 08:12 AM, said:

I'm constantly amazed by the community's ability to throw good money after bad. Or at least attempt to.

Guess it really IS made up of old men.

Welcome to the first world.

[Chemie]

Training Instructor, on 17 March 2013 - 09:09 AM, said:

I don't understand all the vitriol and mocking of the OP.

He's basically calling out PGI for talking about how they have "limited resources", and proposing a method to provide some targeted resources to achieve something the players want. If it was successful, imagine how much you could achieve with a second round of funding.

The OP proposed a quick and realistic solution to a problem, and got flamed for it. He's basically proposing to target funding for specific player requests, rather than hand the developers money in the form of MC purchases and allow them to develop more cockpit items and silly camo patterns to sell for ridiculous prices.

I support the OP 100%, I think it's a smart idea. I'd be more inclined to give $5-20 to specific projects than hand $50 blindly to developers who haven't exactly shown they have a grasp on the game. *See every ECM/Raven3L complaint thread ever*

Tell me what my money is going to be spent on. Don't give me some irritating hipster Garth response to my inquiries. I'm over 30, you can talk to me like an adult.

Thank You!

[Taemien]

Ok first of all, programming doesn't work like that. You can't just insert money into a program and it spits out the code you need. You can't pay someone to code faster. You can hire more people to do different modules of a system, but there is a limit. There comes a point where there is too many and the amount of people just makes it too complex.

Synra, on 17 March 2013 - 07:05 AM, said:

As someone else said earlier in this thread, I am done giving them money. Countless players contributed to the future of this game by buying a founders pack last summer. That money was meant to improve the development of MWO. But as I understand it, PGI is still short staffed. They haven't hired any new people to help get this project done. Not only that, but they invested our founders money into the development of two other unrelated games, by different studios. That's money that could have paid for a new UI programmer to build the lobby functionality that is being asked for in this thread.

Do you have evidence to support that claim? This looks to be a biased rumor meant to troll without it.

[xxx WreckinBallRaj xxx]

While we're at it, let's do a kickstarter for a better MechWarrior game.

[Chemie]

Taemien, on 17 March 2013 - 09:52 AM, said:

Ok first of all, programming doesn't work like that. You can't just insert money into a program and it spits out the code you need. You can't pay someone to code faster. You can hire more people to do different modules of a system, but there is a limit. There comes a point where there is too many and the amount of people just makes it too complex.

You can decide what your existing ppl are working on....it is easy to decide toprogram x or y. I am asking for x=lobby.

[Taemien]

They are working on a lobby system. Explain to me how throwing more money into it will help?

How about this, since its such a 'wonderful idea' lets see who's right. If PGI does it, you all are right. If not, I'm right. I mean if its such a bright and great idea that couldn't possibly fail, what would PGI have to lose? They would gain so much. A working lobby, more money to invest, and a happier consumer base.

Course if they know that it doesn't work like that (which they do) they won't. Such an endeavor would only be a ponzi scheme at best.

[Darzok]

I have to say i would pop £10 in to help them i did buy the founders and abit more MC and i love the game if they needed a little more i would be happy to help some more when i got the money.

[AlexEss]

Training Instructor, on 17 March 2013 - 09:09 AM, said:

I don't understand all the vitriol and mocking of the OP.

I might be because a lot of customers see kickstarter as a fix-all tool for devs to get the features they (the customer) want. It is not intended to be used the way the OP suggest and thus some people get annoyed. Secondly ther are working on a lobby system but being non-vital it have had lesser priority but the devs have stated that they aim to have a basic lobby system in place in roughly two months time. This will concur with phase one of community warfare that will be rolled out around that time.

So not only would a kickstarter be the wrong way to go about it, it is completely unnecessary and could in the end result in things being pushed back even further due to having to integrate new staff and devote time to manage the hiring of said talent.

Edited by AlexEss, 17 March 2013 - 12:11 PM.

[DisasterTheory]

DV McKenna, on 17 March 2013 - 06:34 AM, said:

Unlikely, we'll be getting a lobby that ties us into PGI and who they want us to play for Community Warfare.

Exactly why i won't be participating in this game if that is indeed the path they intend to take. I want the option to choose who and where i play.

Malisinn, on 17 March 2013 - 06:37 AM, said:

Private matches if they are only organized through our friends list isn't going to accomplish what public lobbies could.

Exactly.... This has the sad stinch of a console game all over it.

Gaan Cathal, on 17 March 2013 - 06:39 AM, said:

That seems like a fairly sensible method for avoiding fifteen separate groups of beards from throwing their hands up in disgust at CW (because they're loosing) and starting their own 'real CW' leagues where they can manipulate the rules to suit their own prejudices.

Thats not the point of private ran leagues. The point is to create an organized competition envirnment to give the player base an option of a different type of gameplay. Example would be Unlimited Ammo, Ice maps, C0-C7 weapon restrictions ect...

It might seem like a reasonable method to you but to us non-brain dead players who can think for ourselves it sounds like sheep being corraled into a pen for our coats to be harvested for the purpose of money generation. I would rather be able to compete in an envirnment where i know im not being used as a revenew generation tool.

Edited by BLOODREDSINGLE, 17 March 2013 - 01:13 PM.

[Rebas Kradd]

Gaan Cathal, on 17 March 2013 - 06:39 AM, said:

That seems like a fairly sensible method for avoiding fifteen separate groups of beards from throwing their hands up in disgust at CW (because they're loosing) and starting their own 'real CW' leagues where they can manipulate the rules to suit their own prejudices.

This is usually called "customer satisfaction", unless you're in a world where everyone has the exact same roleplaying preferences that you do.

Throwing money at lobbies may not speed up their arrival, but I have opined before (though somewhat simplistically) that they might be well-served to implement them before (and independently of) CW.

[Ordin Hall]

Golds being fanboys to the max, sounds about right.

[PANZERBUNNY]

Ordin, on 17 March 2013 - 01:17 PM, said:

Golds being fanboys to the max, sounds about right.

Someone didn't get their daily dose of hugs.