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[Supraluminal]

FWIW, WoT charges ~$15/month for a premium account, which mainly just gets you a 50% bonus to credits and XP earned. (It also gives you the ability to start a 3-person platoon for random matches, which people tend to agree probably shouldn't be a pay feature....) You can drive the price down a bit if you buy gold in bulk, and if you buy longer chunks of premium time at once.

I don't know the exact numbers, but it's safe to say that many if not most "hardcore" WoT players pay for premium - though granted, some of them (not many) are able to earn enough gold in-game to supplement or completely cover the cost. Anyway, overall it seems there's a pretty sizeable chunk of the player base that's willing to pay for it, even at what feels like a pretty high price-point for what you get.

MWO could certainly deviate widely from that, but given the concrete evidence WoT provides for what people are willing to pay for, my suspicion is that it will land somewhere in the same ballpark.

[Aym]

Looks like it's a headstart for pre-orders. Can't be TOO long of a head start though, should give us a fairly decent guess towards release date, maybe within a week of July 17th.

[AlanEsh]

Supraluminal, on 31 May 2012 - 08:38 AM, said:

FWIW, WoT charges ~$15/month for a premium account, which mainly just gets you a 50% bonus to credits and XP earned. (It also gives you the ability to start a 3-person platoon for random matches, which people tend to agree probably shouldn't be a pay feature....) You can drive the price down a bit if you buy gold in bulk, and if you buy longer chunks of premium time at once.

I don't know the exact numbers, but it's safe to say that many if not most "hardcore" WoT players pay for premium - though granted, some of them (not many) are able to earn enough gold in-game to supplement or completely cover the cost. Anyway, overall it seems there's a pretty sizeable chunk of the player base that's willing to pay for it, even at what feels like a pretty high price-point for what you get.

MWO could certainly deviate widely from that, but given the concrete evidence WoT provides for what people are willing to pay for, my suspicion is that it will land somewhere in the same ballpark.

This is the thing that made me quit WoT most of all. Not because I can't afford it, but because they were charging traditional MMO subscription prices in exchange for added XP and Credits for a basic game of tech tree, match maker, plus a dozen maps.

If MWO follows that pricing scheme, they won't be getting my money (beyond the Founder's package).

Buddahcjcc, on 31 May 2012 - 08:14 AM, said:

So the early starers will have an advantage? Woo

Is this a complaint? Because it's silly if so... It doesn't matter when you pay for premium, you're always going to get a leg up on the guys who don't pay.

Edited by Angelicon, 31 May 2012 - 08:54 AM.

[HellJumper]

Please i am confused so clarify me here.. where have they said the you get access to beta on 17th July if you buy founders package??

my understanding is...buy founders pack on june 19th and get immediate access to beta... early access to game ...


But i dont remember reading anywhere which said you get BETA access on july 17th... please clarify me..

[Kenyon Burguess]

I dont think ppl will have too much to worry about re:head starts. piloting a mech is 2nd hand to most everyone on these forums already and the learning curve should be fairly flat by now. anything generated in character progression and financial gains would be small in a weekend timeframe. hopefully completing your character fully to clan invasion levels will take months of piloting.

[Redshift2k5]

HellJumper, on 31 May 2012 - 08:59 AM, said:

Please i am confused so clarify me here.. where have they said the you get access to beta on 17th July if you buy founders package??

my understanding is...buy founders pack on june 19th and get immediate access to beta... early access to game ...


But i dont remember reading anywhere which said you get BETA access on july 17th... please clarify me..

Says so quite clearly in the Operation:Inception announcement

Early access to the game along with Founder's assets availability starts July 17th.
http://mwomercs.com/...tion-inception/

[HellJumper]

Redshift2k5, on 31 May 2012 - 09:04 AM, said:

Says so quite clearly in the Operation:Inception announcement

Early access to the game along with Founder's assets availability starts July 17th.
http://mwomercs.com/...tion-inception/

Yes but where does it states that you get BETA access on July 17th??i have seen in a lot of threads earlier where people mentioned getting access to BETA on july 17th when they purchase the founders pack..

Even the OP here said

"Vets and Elites get membership to Premium service, where they get more CBills and XP. And they gain access to the Beta on July 17th."

[Redshift2k5]

HellJumper, on 31 May 2012 - 09:07 AM, said:

Yes but where does it states that you get BETA access on July 17th??i have seen in a lot of threads earlier where people mentioned getting access to BETA on july 17th when they purchase the founders pack..

Even the OP here said

"Vets and Elites get membership to Premium service, where they get more CBills and XP. And they gain access to the Beta on July 17th."

The announcement says you get access on July 17th. It does not specify which stage of development the game is in at that point; Most people assume it is still 'closed beta' at the point. (It certainly isn't an open beta or a launch if it's still exclusive)

[Kulleras]

The Operation:Clarification post states that the access you gain is for the beta.

Edited by Kulleras, 31 May 2012 - 09:10 AM.

[Redshift2k5]

Kulleras, on 31 May 2012 - 09:10 AM, said:

The Operation:Clarification post states that the access you gain is for the beta.

Yes, further clarification from Operation:Clarification

InnerSphereNews, on 22 May 2012 - 10:25 AM, said:

The program is purchasable on June 19th and you gain guaranteed access to the closed beta on July 17th.

[HellJumper]

Redshift2k5, on 31 May 2012 - 09:09 AM, said:

The announcement says you get access on July 17th. It does not specify which stage of development the game is in at that point; Most people assume it is still 'closed beta' at the point. (It certainly isn't an open beta or a launch if it's still exclusive)

That is why i keep on asking. On what basis people are saying its closed beta?? if its just assumption then i assume its the release date. i say cause i am speculating without any basis available.. so maybe the OP should not say beta access on 17th july??

Kulleras, on 31 May 2012 - 09:10 AM, said:

The Operation:Clarification post states that the access you gain is for the beta.

Ok my bad...i had not read it.

Edited by HellJumper, 31 May 2012 - 09:16 AM.

[Kartr]

Buddahcjcc, on 31 May 2012 - 08:14 AM, said:

You mean before? As far as I know STO stayed F2P. They didnt go back to a sub that I know of

They use a hybrid model, you can play for free and buy stuff from the cash shop, or you can pay for a premium/vip account which gets goodies (not sure what) and still buy from the cash shop. So you can still sub if you want and if you're a lifetime then you're set.

HellJumper, on 31 May 2012 - 08:59 AM, said:

Please i am confused so clarify me here.. where have they said the you get access to beta on 17th July if you buy founders package??

my understanding is...buy founders pack on june 19th and get immediate access to beta... early access to game ...


But i dont remember reading anywhere which said you get BETA access on july 17th... please clarify me..

I don't see anything in Operation Inception that says you get access to Beta when you buy a founders package. What you do get is early access to the live game. If MWO goes live on July 21st, founders will have been playing for a week already since they got access on July 17th.

As for the whole "premium" I'm pretty sure it's going to be a WoT style where you go to the cash shop and upgrade your account to premium for so many days, because of this:

• Two-month premium account to MechWarrior Online at launch: Earn XP & C-Bills faster.

This is almost exactly what a premium account on WoT gives and since the games seem to have the same sort of premise (jump in a quick match and beat the crap out of the other guys), I figure it'll be similar in terms of how the store works. Even if the 1 month premium is ~$10 like in WoT it'll be a better deal and worth IMO because MWO has more game than just quick battles. Don't forget you have factions you can gain rep with, shifting borders and who know what all else.

[Pook600]

Buddahcjcc, on 31 May 2012 - 09:35 AM, said:

It also costs #30 and $60...
Um 1$ per day?

I think you're looking at it wrong.

You get all of the Founders package which INCLUDES the premium time.

[Pook600]

Buddahcjcc, on 31 May 2012 - 09:50 AM, said:

It was more meant as a joke -.- my sense of humor is difficult tho

problem with chatting online... gotcha. My bad dude

[AlanEsh]

Buddahcjcc, on 31 May 2012 - 09:35 AM, said:

-.- negative much?
(it wasnt a complaint -.-)

Your trailing "Woo" looked sarcastic... you know, missing a "!" or a "Hoo!" on the end

As noted above, misunderstandings are the way of the internet. Passion or Concern are quite often read by others as Anger or Scorn.

/edited multiple times for quote-fail

Edited by Angelicon, 31 May 2012 - 12:26 PM.