Using A Pretty Baby Or 9M
#1
Posted 19 March 2013 - 06:33 PM
#2
Posted 19 March 2013 - 07:15 PM
9M is a bit similar, but can't go up to 400 engine rating, so it's more of a hard-hitter.
#3
Posted 19 March 2013 - 07:43 PM
Been trying figure out the best build for my PB I tried a LRM Boat with 3 LRM15's and 3 MLasers then i thought it does less of a job than a Cat.
I think i have settled for a Jack of all and master of none..
now sporting LRM20 3 Mlasers and 2 SRM6's and doing Ok - kind of a support role with a little suprise for those annoying fast guys that sprint toward you thinking "Yay free LRM Boat kill" so wish i can see there face when i unleash the SRMS at point blank hehehe (I dont let them on to the srms until they are too close to miss) once LRMS are out I join the fray and attack damged mechs from flanking posi.
It seems to work for me... But if I knew all about hard points etc.. I would not have purchased the PB.
JYI I might throw a 400 xl when i get cb's to splash around cos more speed is what i crave in the PB
#4
Posted 19 March 2013 - 08:01 PM
#5
Posted 19 March 2013 - 08:34 PM
My 9M is gathering dust at the moment because my 8Q with 5 Large Pulse Lasers + Coolant Flush is way more fun.
Edited by Elizander, 19 March 2013 - 08:35 PM.
#6
Posted 19 March 2013 - 08:38 PM
put some missiles in the torso and arm, put a laser in the head, and 3 ppc on the big energy hardpoints (i don't use lasers because lasers barely scratch my awesome, so why would i scratch back, no - hard hitting PPC and ER PPC)
standard engine 300
if my torsos are stripped i can still zombie it with my head medlas and my CT missiles.
Edited by Mazzyplz, 19 March 2013 - 08:43 PM.
#7
Posted 19 March 2013 - 11:44 PM
Elizander, on 19 March 2013 - 08:34 PM, said:
My 9M is gathering dust at the moment because my 8Q with 5 Large Pulse Lasers + Coolant Flush is way more fun.
9m is mah next purchase then... 8 ll's that indeed sounds like a hoot! PEW PEW PEW
Cifrer, on 19 March 2013 - 08:01 PM, said:
Yeah youd think that thats why i shake my head and load up the SRM's when thye just stand there pew pewing for my head lol
#8
Posted 20 March 2013 - 01:12 AM
#9
Posted 20 March 2013 - 06:05 AM
This topic explains how Darwins Dog picked his Cicada engine, anything higher than a 300XL gave him less tonnage for equipment than a Jenner/Raven.
This topic Phaesphoros expands the chart to all current Mechs.
Note the 9M/PB line in Phaesphoros' chart, it crosses the CTF line about 75kph, that is about a 370XL (74.9 kph) or 375XL (75.9 kph). So anything above one of these engines and you supposedly have less tonnage for equipment than a CTF running the same speed. That may have chosen my engine size for me.
(Strange note, I see the 370XL to 375XL is a 2 ton jump plus 1 more for HS but the 380XL has the same tonnage as a 375XL.)
#10
Posted 20 March 2013 - 06:20 AM
It's only advantage is more speed and extra 5kph which aren't worth 30$ over 9M.
Edited by Tahribator, 20 March 2013 - 07:15 AM.
#11
Posted 20 March 2013 - 10:20 AM
#12
Posted 20 March 2013 - 10:43 AM
PB is brawlier - but still not on par with the real big dogs. Again, it's too fragile and the hardpoints don't allow you to pack a punch the way you can on others in the class. PB is also a mech that is NOT well-suited to fire support roles. The stopping speed penalty is a huge hindrance and will get you chewed to pieces if you try to trade punches with other snipers. PB is a straight ahead striker/flanker. Play it that way and you'll do well with it. Try to shoehorn it into something it's not and it'll be a disappointment.
What's mentioned in this thread about engine size vs payload considerations is something I'd definitely take into account. The XL380 makes a great base for either mech - and you'll still run 85kph with that... And you'll have critical space there for heat sinks. Bigger than that and I think you start to hit a diminishing return to scale.
#13
Posted 20 March 2013 - 12:03 PM
The best use of this mech is at the start of the match to flank, harass and spot of lrms. Once the enemy is softened up by the main force you can then hit them hard and fast. Both of these mechs have fast spinning torsos and lasers so lights should not be a problem to drive off from your forward position, don't chase them though.
#14
Posted 20 March 2013 - 12:13 PM
It just "feels" right to have a mix of sniping and close-in punch. I ran into a full-health commando stealing our base during a rush the other day, and was able to splash it in one lucky hit. With the speed tweak, I think I'm 86.7kph.
Edited by Fomites, 20 March 2013 - 12:13 PM.
#15
Posted 20 March 2013 - 12:20 PM
Fomites, on 20 March 2013 - 12:13 PM, said:
It just "feels" right to have a mix of sniping and close-in punch. I ran into a full-health commando stealing our base during a rush the other day, and was able to splash it in one lucky hit. With the speed tweak, I think I'm 86.7kph.
Yeah, I guess to clarify - I would DEFINITELY take some weapons on PB that have range to them. I carry 2 LLs on mine to give me something to apply damage with as I close to SRM range. That's certainly useful with the bigger maps in rotation now (and even on maps like caustic). I suppose I blew my point on that. If you get into a mode with PB where you think you're going to snipe effectively against other snipers, it's only going to happen if the other snipers flat out stink - or you're just not the focused target (which absolutely does happen). The 9M is just a lot better suited for that (and so are the 8Q, 8R and 8T for that matter).
#16
Posted 20 March 2013 - 12:38 PM
They're both pretty good if used properly. I prefer the PB because I like to brawl and SRMs are better for brawling. And it has 2 SRMs on the arm so they can be aimed at some crazy angles.
That said, I don't run max size engines in either because like others have said there is a tradeoff between speed and firepower. I lean toward the firepower side.
#17
Posted 20 March 2013 - 02:41 PM
Banky, on 20 March 2013 - 12:20 PM, said:
Yeah, I guess to clarify - I would DEFINITELY take some weapons on PB that have range to them. I carry 2 LLs on mine to give me something to apply damage with as I close to SRM range. That's certainly useful with the bigger maps in rotation now (and even on maps like caustic). I suppose I blew my point on that. If you get into a mode with PB where you think you're going to snipe effectively against other snipers, it's only going to happen if the other snipers flat out stink - or you're just not the focused target (which absolutely does happen). The 9M is just a lot better suited for that (and so are the 8Q, 8R and 8T for that matter).
Ah, I wasn't contradicting you. Those were all good points. I guess I should clarify that I'm still in the "keep it simple stupid" camp as a relative newbie, and the 2 x 2 long + short helps me focus. That said, I have had a decent bit of success with the PB...it was my gateway drug (I got the game when they launched PB) to bigger mechs, smaller mechs, and a growing stable
edit: i swapped the 2 erppc for 2 lpls and a tag...i had my first 835 round. I just set the tag to my lpls's and collect xp/credits from whatever other people are lrm'ing down as well. it's pretty damn sweet.
Edited by Fomites, 20 March 2013 - 03:58 PM.
#18
Posted 20 March 2013 - 05:50 PM
I'm currently running 3xSRM6 with artemis, 3ML, and AMS for those times when I slip out of cover. My 9M is setup more as a long(er) range mech, less speed but better ranges.
#19
Posted 23 March 2013 - 07:37 PM
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...4b3b2ffada5677d
Just did nearly 1000 damage with him tonight in a match. Brutal weapon.
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