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[CGB Behemoth]

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...1530e68964433cb - real Assault hunter. Killed 3 Atlases in a row, then a Raven. Just one thing - you need to get close. Over 700 damage usually. Record was 1101.

[Takony]

ThePieMaker, on 09 July 2013 - 08:27 AM, said:

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...13f9c9a1cbbc0ee

Full of win and built perfectly for trolls

I tested this last night, 2 ERPPC 6MG very funny troll build but on my somewhat outdated gaming laptop it cut FPS in half, 30 became 15 and unplayable. Eats circling lights at 120m alive haha.

[Punk Oblivion]

Well in light of the incoming SRM buff (and fingers crossed an LBX10 buff) I dusted off my JM6-A to get some builds ready to go. The two that worked out best for me tonight (before the buff) are these:

LBX10/ERPPC, with two SRM6's.
JM6-A
This works well, decent heat management, some damage at all ranges, decent damage output.

Two large lasers, with four SRM6's
JM6-A
This build loses the long range capabilities and runs fairly hot, but you gain a lot more burst damage up close.

Of course if the LBX gets a buff, I will probably fit on two lbx's with as many SRM's as I can after that with a lot smaller engine. But that is a big if...

[Raso]

Punk Oblivion, on 15 July 2013 - 11:08 PM, said:

Two large lasers, with four SRM6's
JM6-A
This build loses the long range capabilities and runs fairly hot, but you gain a lot more burst damage up close.

I've never been a huge fan of XLs on the Jager ESPECIALLY not on a brawler.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...31d3bfaff314f4f

Here's I've gone with SRM4s for the faster refire rate and tighter spread. I' retain the speed of the 300 engine while also gaining increased heat efficiency.

Another option would be to (reluctantly) forgo the large lasers in favor of medium lasers. This allows you to install a larger engine, SRM6s and a few more heatsinks.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...9526bac59e98b74

But that's just me, I hate running XLs in my Jager.

[Punk Oblivion]

Edit: This build was not nearly as good as I thought so it is now gone.

WTB Large Pulse laser buff

Edited by Punk Oblivion, 19 July 2013 - 10:20 PM.

[Punk Oblivion]

Well after day 1 of this new tourney I am #4 in heavies! woot! Been using my Firebrand about 95% of the day, with some JM6-A action occasionally when I have a bad match in the FB. The two FB builds I am rocking are as follows:

JM6-FB-LASER

This uses a 300 STD so it has some good sustainability in close combat. It runs a little hot on the warmer maps, so you have to really take a deep breath and pick your shots when you are near max heat.

JM6-FB-BALLISTIC

This came about later in the day, there were so many assaults out for the tourney that I changed to a support build.
It basically uses the FB's laser/ballistic arm hard point combo to play mid-long range harasser. This has decent heat management, with the exception of prolonged fire on a target that is tunneled in on a teamate. It uses an XL280, but use of cover and the constant AC2 barrage help negate damage. (Make sure to start firing the AC2's a quarter second apart for maximum annoyance)

Edited by Punk Oblivion, 19 July 2013 - 11:17 PM.

[Oriius]

I've been messing around with this:

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...519868a1f69bc1c

I call it, the big cheese!

Yup It's cheesy, and sadly works well enough I guess in the current meta. It does seem to generate a good amount of hate when used.

Just don't forget to paint yourself bright yellow, if ya gonna do cheese, ya have to look it too!

Edited by Oriius, 20 July 2013 - 08:28 AM.

[SirSlaughter]

Not a very popular build but I'm fine with 2xUAC5, 4xLRM5, 1xML and TAG.

[Woozle]

I've been having some great games in this: http://mwo.smurfy-ne...ad9360866a9ecf0

[Zordicron]

Jager, I have Endo on all of them. Note: none of these have ever been fitted with AC40 or dual gauss, because that is LAMERS. Mixed loadout FTW.

DD:
2x UAC5
4MG
2MPL
15DHS
XL300

The thing is potent at mid range with two ultras. It is total facewreck in close range. And it is fairly nimble, runs fairly cool, and sounds WICKED AWESOME.

A:
2 AC2
2 SRM4
2 SRM6
12 DHS
std 260

This has good long-ish range support fire. Just hang back a little, and wait for some enemy to think it is safe to position for a snipe, and pang pang pang pang away. When something gets snooty and comes in close SRPRIZ 40 POINT SRM SPANK. The SRM will get the heat up, but anything less then 60 tons usually says F that noise and runs off. Protip: Try SRM spank into the back of unaware atlas.

Firebrand:
2 UAC5
2 ERLL
XL 280
15DHS

Fast enough after tweak to get around well. Solid range to hit foes with ERLL, and still excellent for foolish lights that try to charge you. 2 ultras is of course potent for mid/close range on bigger targets. Use the ERLL, hold the ultra fire for brawl encounters, or if you can really splat something unaware of your presence. Advance, unload until Ultra's both jam, retreat. Use just ERLL at range from behind some cover. They will do dmg out to 1000M, though it is really reduced. Still, it is usually enough to make chicken shizzer PPC snipers back down from their perch and reposition, which buys you and the team time to close on them.


havent bought the 4th one yet.

[Punk Oblivion]

^^ Funny you posted that FB, I just started running 2LL's/2UAC5's and it wrecks face. BUT I have no idea how you fit a 280 with 15 DHS's in, this is how I am running it:

FIREBRAND

[Zordicron]

Punk Oblivion, on 25 July 2013 - 11:08 AM, said:

^^ Funny you posted that FB, I just started running 2LL's/2UAC5's and it wrecks face. BUT I have no idea how you fit a 280 with 15 DHS's in, this is how I am running it:

FIREBRAND

Going from XL 265 to a 280 only takes 1 ton. I am sure I just sacrificed a ton of ammo for the extra speed. Or maybe I dropped more armor off, i would have to look to be sure, but I am guessing one less ton ammo.

Also, while the LL helps fight heat during closer range fights, I really find the extra 200M or so range to be very useful on some maps from the ERLL. Of course, I dont usually alpha strike this loadout either, and save the ultra ammo for less "snipey" shots, if that makes sense.

I am not some uber player on an uber rig with uber cable net connection living in PGI's backyard, but in 60 matches with the Firebrand with this loadout my W/L is 1.57 and the K/D( I do not value this stat whatsoever but I know others do) is 2.28. So I figure if I can manage a solid positive history with this loadout playing with my 1996 IBM optical 3 button mouse, someone "serious" could likely really wreck it.

[Cronuss]

JM6-DD

2xAC10
4xMG
2xMLas

Love it.

[Punk Oblivion]

Eldagore, on 25 July 2013 - 03:56 PM, said:

Going from XL 265 to a 280 only takes 1 ton. I am sure I just sacrificed a ton of ammo for the extra speed. Or maybe I dropped more armor off, i would have to look to be sure, but I am guessing one less ton ammo.

Also, while the LL helps fight heat during closer range fights, I really find the extra 200M or so range to be very useful on some maps from the ERLL. Of course, I dont usually alpha strike this loadout either, and save the ultra ammo for less "snipey" shots, if that makes sense.

I am not some uber player on an uber rig with uber cable net connection living in PGI's backyard, but in 60 matches with the Firebrand with this loadout my W/L is 1.57 and the K/D( I do not value this stat whatsoever but I know others do) is 2.28. So I figure if I can manage a solid positive history with this loadout playing with my 1996 IBM optical 3 button mouse, someone "serious" could likely really wreck it.

I see. I think 5 tons of ammo for 2 UAC5's is actually cutting it close haha. But I use the UAC's as my main weapons and the LL's as a secondary/dmg boost weapon. I usually stick with the assaults, let them take the attention, then let loose on the distracted enemy, full speed on the UAC's. Once they jam, I duck into cover/reposition

[White Bear 84]

The Jager is just so beautiful and awesome.

Favorite builds;

1.Dual Gaus
2. Dual UAC5, dual LL
3. 5 MG DD (No XL )

[Dragoon20005]

this

JM6-DD

plus this



a troll build mech but effective if you have like 4 of these

[Neinhalt]

This is the loadout I currently run on my Firebrand:

2x AC-5, 5x ML, 1x ER-PPC, 15 DHS, XL280, 3x AC-5 Ammo:
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...3950492e07b9e22

All slots used...

[evilC]

I give you The Brutalizer. Probably the best sustained fire mech in the game.

Works on a Jager A or DD (Best on DD for the torso twist).

The reasoning:
AC2s run too hot to use more than a couple at a time, even then you cannot keep firing at full rate for extended periods.
UAC5s are better heat wise but despite significant improvements over the AC5, lack enough fire rate even in pairs.
3xUAC5, while delivering a decent ROF, are a bit heavy.

So we take advantage of the fact that an AC2 fires just over twice as quick as a UAC5 by pairing one AC2 with two UAC5s.
This provides a ~40% DPS increase over 2xUAC5 and *doubles* the ROF.

Also, luckily, the ammo counts work out exactly too. UAC5 is 25 shots/t and AC2 is 75
So by keeping a ratio of 3 UAC to 1 AC2 ammo, we have exactly even ammo counts. We have two UACs, but one AC2 firing twice as often, so the ammo counts stay perfectly even in chain fire mode.

To round this puppy off, you need a macro to time your shots. Please see the "Fire Control" link in my sig for that. When using this setup, put the UACs in group 3 on chain fire, and the AC2 in group 4 and use the following settings in my macro:
Fire Sequence: 3,4
Fire Rate: 275
Limit Fire Rate: On

Edited by evilC, 29 July 2013 - 04:03 AM.

[Sathaless]

evilC, on 29 July 2013 - 04:00 AM, said:

I give you The Brutalizer. Probably the best sustained fire mech in the game.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't CASE useless in the ST of a mech with an XL engine?

[evilC]

CASE will stop ST hits potentially causing an ammo explosion, which might destroy your XL.
I don't think it is *as* effective as when using a STD engine, but I don't think it is pointless.

Whatever, it is not that part of the build that is important, it is the weapon loadout. Remove CASE and go up to a 270XL if you want.