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[KinLuu]

The day 3rd person makes it into regular games will be the day PGI will get no more money from me.

[KylleX]

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 20 March 2013 - 09:59 PM, said:

Same reason Fox News does, its independantly owned?



when they refuse to divide us from pugs and premades and have said as much in the past... then again we know what thrie word is worth now

As of right now, Bryan Ekman and Garth Erlam could walk up to my doorstep, hand me a duck, tell me it is a duck, make it quack, and I would call them liars.

Seriously at this point they are making Gabe Newell seem straight forward and honest.

Edited by KylleX, 20 March 2013 - 10:10 PM.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Roadbeer, on 20 March 2013 - 10:02 PM, said:

missed the sarcasm

I need this:
http://youtu.be/DF7MroTLDfU

[Vassago Rain]

jakucha, on 20 March 2013 - 09:56 PM, said:

That remains to be seen. I don't want third person either, but consider that this is a f2p game and f2p games don't operate on regular customers. Regardless of whether or not we like the decision, I bet they'll still be successful.

There's nothing that 'remains to be seen.' At best, PGI and IGP don't know what the other is doing, and they're still lying to us, still trying to fit P2W mechanics and RnR into the game, and at worst, this was all a cashgrah for a bigger purpose.

It's not how you run a business. Zero faith left in either. Zero respect.

This isn't the bioware forum. This isn't reddit. The people here, even through how divided we are, we're all adults. This isn't acceptable behavior.

Case closed. Go troll in a different thread.

[NocturnalBeast]

The only way I would accept 3rd person in this game is if it was in the Training Grounds only, or if it was in a new, separate game mode, like say let people queue for 3rd person enabled and 3rd person disabled game modes.

Edited by Edward Steiner, 20 March 2013 - 10:08 PM.

[Nidhoggr]

A benefit of living in the digital age is that it is now possible to directly communicate with large numbers of people. It baffles me how people still seem to forget to put this wondrous part of 21st century life to use. Would it be so hard to add a 5 second once-per-patch survey immediately after logging in that asks questions like "consumables: for or against?" or "3rd person view: for or against"? Leave a bottom option like "I'm not interested in this survey", perhaps weigh each vote according to matches played on the given account (to prevent ballot stuffing from fake accounts if you are worried about such a thing; if not, 1 person = 1 vote), and then BAM! look at your results and proceed to develop the game accordingly. While the forums are mainly filled with anti-3rd person advocates (I'm one of them), it seems like the devs keep questioning whether or not the forums accurately represent their entire player base. This is a genuinely valid question to consider when reading feedback in any forum -- but here's the thing -- they don't need to keep questioning forum based polls/rants! They have the means to get the information they need right now by just asking the entire player base directly. They need to start using the means afforded to us all here in the year 2013!

[Mazzyplz]

Asakara, on 20 March 2013 - 10:04 PM, said:

To be fair, $5,000,000 divided by 45 staff (who need to be paid at least monthly) over 7-8 months + unknown bandwidth costs + unknown hardware costs does not end up being a lot of money.. And that does not factor in what IGP supposedly sent over to Tactics either.

founders is only part of the cash, doesn't count the newer hero mechs or cammo or premium time, or paying for regular non hero mechs

[Vassago Rain]

Thontor, on 20 March 2013 - 10:04 PM, said:

The tweet was pretty vague.

One can only hope that third person will be limited to the Testing Grounds and the upcoming Training Grounds

Uh-hu, and we're never getting coolant, remember? No P2W mechanics, like the first 'reveal' of their coolant system, where the cash flush was so superior to the regular one, it'd make the world of tanks russians blush.

[Roadbeer]

Asakara, on 20 March 2013 - 10:04 PM, said:

To be fair, $5,000,000 divided by 45 staff (who need to be paid at least monthly) over 7-8 months + unknown bandwidth costs + unknown hardware costs does not end up being a lot of money..

And:
Office Space, Electricity, Ping-Pong Table, Employee payroll tax, Income tax (They're in Canada, so those rates are HUGE), Asset Insurance, Coffee Maker, Water, Waste Disposal, Ergonomic chairs, Spin Classes, Employee Health Insurance (Canada again), etc. , etc. , etc.

$5mil doesn't go very far.

[Asakara]

Maybe their twitter account got hacked? Or they have faulty calendars and think it is April 1st? I dunno.

It seems odd to me that they would go ahead with something like this.

[jakucha]

Vassago Rain, on 20 March 2013 - 10:07 PM, said:

There's nothing that 'remains to be seen.' At best, PGI and IGP don't know what the other is doing, and they're still lying to us, still trying to fit P2W mechanics and RnR into the game, and at worst, this was all a cashgrah for a bigger purpose.

It's not how you run a business. Zero faith left in either. Zero respect.

This isn't the bioware forum. This isn't reddit. The people here, even through how divided we are, we're all adults. This isn't acceptable behavior.

Case closed. Go troll in a different thread.

Your words of disappointment won't change a business wanting to make money. This forum is no better than any other game forum.

Plenty remains to be seen. And I'm not sure what reddit has to do with this discussion, anyway they're having the same panicky reaction in the Mechwarrior subreddit as you are.

You just continue to cater to whatever the current popular opinion is as you've done in the past, because I can tell having people agree with you strokes your ego.

Edited by jakucha, 20 March 2013 - 10:18 PM.

[Mazzyplz]

i say put some more of the money on mechassault 3 and watch it crash and burn as it's two previous incarnations.

leave the rest of us with our game

[Volthorne]

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 20 March 2013 - 10:05 PM, said:

I need this:
http://youtu.be/DF7MroTLDfU

Yeah, you do need a sarcasm sign. This is the internet, there's literally nothing you can say that is stupid enough to invoke the "sarcasm reaction" within a person.

[Vassago Rain]

Asakara, on 20 March 2013 - 10:10 PM, said:

Maybe their twitter account got hacked? Or they have faulty calendars and think it is April 1st? I dunno.

It seems odd to me that they would go ahead with something like this.

Like they gave us coolant, when they said they'd never do it...

[Roadbeer]

Volthorne, on 20 March 2013 - 10:12 PM, said:

Yeah, you do need a sarcasm sign. This is the internet, there's literally nothing you can say that is stupid enough to invoke the "sarcasm reaction" within a person.

Except the word "Soon", that invokes all kinds of sarcasm

[Thirdstar]

KylleX, on 20 March 2013 - 10:05 PM, said:

As of right now, Bryan Ekman and Garth Erlam could walk up to my doorstep, hand me a duck, tell me it is a duck, make it quack, and I would call them liars.

Seriously at this point they are making Gabe Newell seem straight forward and honest.

They could hand me a single player AAA version of MWO with a story and missions and Clan mechs........... and I'd ask them what the catch is.

[Rejarial Galatan]

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 20 March 2013 - 10:02 PM, said:

Kinda starting to think this is less a game than a social experiment to see how much BS players will willingly go through and stay faithful

either way, the death knell is ringing.

[Rejarial Galatan]

der langsamere, on 20 March 2013 - 10:15 PM, said:

well, bookmarking the thread, going to bed and seeing if this gets locked between now and when I wake up and IF

IF

we actually get a response on this.

i doubt we will get any response that makes sense

[Vassago Rain]

der langsamere, on 20 March 2013 - 10:15 PM, said:

well, bookmarking the thread, going to bed and seeing if this gets locked between now and when I wake up and IF

IF

we actually get a response on this.

If they lock this, a new one will spawn, and either way, no one trusts the company anymore. This is why you don't bite the hand that feeds.

[Krellek]

daemur, on 20 March 2013 - 07:42 PM, said:

Who is this 3rd person?

Who is this IGP member with his trash response?