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[Kraven Kor]

My main concern with Coolant Flush or whatever they want to call it, is the fact that I hated the necessity of it in MW:4, and the "Alpha, Flush, Alpha, Win" gameplay it created.

So, simple question, aimed mostly at truly "competitive" players - Is the use of Coolant Flush mandatory to be competitive?

I know that what we have doesn't quite compare to MW:4 mechanics, but I fear that it will become or already is "mandatory" to compete, or giving just too much benefit on certain mechs.

Just a simple poll. Not trying to whine or moan or complain, just want to know the down-low now that you number-crunchers have had a few days with it.

[Monkey Bone]

People who voted no [REDACTED] don't want their p2w removed.

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[Bilbo]

Jules Gonzales, on 21 March 2013 - 11:36 AM, said:

People who voted no [REDACTED] don't want their p2w removed.

I voted no, and I never intend to use it.

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[Dreamslave]

Definitely not p2w at all. Not even close. Still consistently winning 8 mans without using this coolant flush thing. It's not our fault many of you prefer super hot builds. Part of being a good mech warrior is being intelligent on AND off the battlefield, making good decisions about your mech and its specs prior to dropping. Balance your heat or don't, it doesn't really matter, for Coolant Flush does not make that big of a difference.

Edited by Dreamslave, 21 March 2013 - 11:39 AM.

[Ryan the Lion]

I voted no, cause I have been doing better since the patch and have not even tried it yet. While that is me personally and I understand that can be different for different styles of play, I think the P2W crowd over hyped it. In a world of over hype people don't know how to function anymore without it.

[Josef Nader]

I voted no. I never intend to use it, I've never seen it used, and none of my mechs would benefit all that greatly from it.

If you want to blow your C-Bills on it, knock yourself out.

[PurpleNinja]

Yes, but most people play to have fun, so it's not needed on most cases.

[Kraven Kor]

I ask because at least one of the "really good" Marik players had mentioned that it does appear to be a necessity, at least on two mechs.

So at least some feel it is.

Again, not complaining or trying to start a ruckus, just looking for info from the pros.

[Coolant]

Jules Gonzales, on 21 March 2013 - 11:36 AM, said:

People who voted no [REDACTED] don't want their p2w removed.

Used it twice, was useless, don't plan on using it again...

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[Livewyr]

Jules Gonzales, on 21 March 2013 - 11:36 AM, said:

People who voted no [REDACTED] don't want their p2w removed.

Pay-2-read. (look up 9x9)

And I voted no.. if you need a coolant pod to be competitive, you're doing something horribly wrong.

It only helps you ONCE in the match..and unless you're one of "those" that likes to charge headlong into a non-tactical, unorganized grand melee of death.. it won't help you.

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[Sean von Steinike]

Jules Gonzales, on 21 March 2013 - 11:36 AM, said:

People who voted no [REDACTED] don't want their p2w removed.

Have not used it, don't intend to use it.

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[jakucha]

An extra alpha strike can be useful but it usually doesn't decide an entire game.

[Zeus X]

Jules Gonzales, on 21 March 2013 - 11:36 AM, said:

People who voted no [REDACTED] don't want their p2w removed.

Haven't used it, and won't use it. My module slots are used for "real" modules.

Also in 8v8 comp matches, it's as worthless as boobs on a bull.

I can't think of any comp build that would benefit from this wasted module slot.

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[Protection]

I feel like a majority of builds in the RHoD playoffs will be running Coolant Flushes.

It could turn the tide of a brawl for one team to be loaded with coolant and the other without.

I'm sure you can get by pugging just fine without ever using coolant, but in the very close high level games you're going to want that edge.

[Mackman]

I would imagine that once we have competitive play, or meaningful matches in CW, or actual tournaments, then, in those specific instances, coolant flush (and other consumables) will likely be heavily represented, and those who do not use them will be disadvantaged. Seeing as none of those things exist yet, it seems premature to talk about whether they're necessary.

[Kraven Kor]

jakucha, on 21 March 2013 - 11:49 AM, said:

An extra alpha strike can be useful but it usually doesn't decide an entire game.

I'm under no illusion that Coolant Flush will decide an entire game, but I think it very much can decide a single skirmish. Particularly if used "en masse" or at the right moments by a well-coordinated team.

[Viper69]

Not voting because i dont use it and im not competitive.

[BanditRaptor]

They'll definitely be mandatory for competitive 8-man and eventually 12-man.

Expect to see it on every brawling D-DC and poptarting cataphract in competitive play, because when time and alpha strike delivery matters, coolant flush is the way to go.

This thing needs to get booted out the door ASAP.

[Morhadel]

Jules Gonzales, on 21 March 2013 - 11:36 AM, said:

People who voted no [REDACTED] don't want their p2w removed.

Coolant flushes are only going to matter to people who don't know how to make a balanced mech. I have been having my best games on the new hot desert map. they shut down, i don't. (I DONT USE COOLANT FLUSHES) the small flush only cancels the heat from one shot of 2 Small Lasers, or one Med Pulse. If you have to have them, they are not going to help you. if you build a balanced mech and running hot from constant fire, then they will be a big help and should WEIGH at least a half ton.

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[Zeus X]

BeakieHelmet, on 21 March 2013 - 11:57 AM, said:

They'll definitely be mandatory for competitive 8-man and eventually 12-man.

Expect to see it on every brawling D-DC and poptarting cataphract in competitive play, because when time and alpha strike delivery matters, coolant flush is the way to go.

This thing needs to get booted out the door ASAP.

How would these work on a 3D cata? What would coolant bring for a jump sniper who's shots are back down to 0 heat before the next round of shots is fired?

Please explain how this will work with a 3D cata and the DDC, cause really I have alot of better modules than this POS Coolant trash.

Edited by DCM Zeus, 21 March 2013 - 12:09 PM.