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[Pupecki]

I don't think it was very smart of you to change the forum layout to something is confusing and congested if you play on doing an AMA on reddit with the intent of drawing in new players, many of them will more than likely come to the forums in order to find more detail about the game and this new layout is not only a major turn off to potential players just by first glance but you also going to get a lot of rage posts from your current community which will without a doubt turn off any new players considering joining.

[Felicitatem Parco]

I think we could use a General Discussion Section about Tactics; something that's not about Game Modes per se, but rather how people are playing their matches out and stuff.

I don't know if the discussions about Poptarting would be best moved to the Loadouts section if they are considered to be JumpJet threads, or in the Mechs section about Cataphracts, highlanders, and Catapults.... but it would do well in a Tactics section.

Edited by Prosperity Park, 23 April 2013 - 01:50 PM.

[Loler skates]

benth, on 23 April 2013 - 01:02 PM, said:

This isn't meant to draw in new players. It's meant to dismantle forumrage and criticism. It'll probably work.

They decided to burn down the forest instead of having to deal with their customers.

Indeed it certainly seems that way.

[3rdworld]

Game modes sub forum is silly.

Having a forums suggestions and a Hot Topic Heat sink thread is Silly.

The layout of sub forums is silly.

Forums crit Average Internet User for 9000.
Average Internet User faints

Edited by 3rdworld, 23 April 2013 - 01:56 PM.

[Syllogy]

While I can see the need to break up some of the discussion going on in General Discussion, I disagree with some of the changes.

Many of the subforums (like the Faction-Specific ones) are unnecessary and are pretty deserted.

I would have gone for a more targeted approach while maintaining an overall theme to each area.

This is probably how I would have gone:

Help, Guides, and Tutorials:
Rules & Tutorials
New Player Help
Battlemech Builds, Guides, and Help
Strategy, Tactics, Maps, & Teamwork

Developer's Corner:
Ask the Devs
Magazine Articles, Interviews, & Dev Blogs
Announcements & Service Status
Patch Notes
-Patch Feedback
Patch Archive

Mechwarrior: Online Support & Feedback:
Hot Topic Feedback
Suggestions & Polls
Website & Forum
Support Workarounds
Hardware, Accessories & Peripherals

MWO Universe:
Inner Sphere Communications Network (General Discussion for Inner Sphere)
Pentagon Worlds Clan Communications (General Discussion for Clans)
Mercenary Review & Bonding Commission (General Discussion for Mercenary Units)
The Periphery

Community Communications:
Battletech Lore, Novels, & Games
Fansites
Fan Audio, Video, Fiction, and Art
Off-Topic Discussions
-Forum Fun
-Jettisoned Communications

(Then your International Forums)

Current Forums: 25 Forums, 32 Subforums
My Outline: 22 Forums, 3 Subforums.

Just my input.

[ferranis]

I could use more subforums for the subforums the subforums.

[LockeJaw]

Ok, so here's my "constructive" criticism.

The new forums are garbage. We've discussed ad nauseum how splitting the player base is bad. What makes mincing the forums any different?

[ferranis]

Viterbi, on 23 April 2013 - 02:02 PM, said:

How about the Barracks? This seems like the place to discuss how particular tactics have worked out.

We're reading everyone's feedback on these changes and will do our best to respond to concerns accordingly.

How about no.

[Felicitatem Parco]

Viterbi, on 23 April 2013 - 02:02 PM, said:

How about the Barracks? This seems like the place to discuss how particular tactics have worked out.

We're reading everyone's feedback on these changes and will do our best to respond to concerns accordingly.

I thought about that, but the Barracks might be best reserved for discussing actual combat that took place, instead of discussing how people feel about game mechanics balance and hypotheticals...

... I mean, if someone wants to talk about the general concept of Poptarting, then it's not Patch Feedback and it's not really a debriefing thread... I dunno... it seems like the current General Discussion subtopics are too object-oriented (Mechs, items, maps, etc.) and not sufficiently action-oriented. Meh, it might be a minor deal.

Edited by Prosperity Park, 23 April 2013 - 02:09 PM.

[Parnage Winters]

It sounds like we need a place to discuss general ideas and thoughts about the game.

[3rdworld]

Viterbi, on 23 April 2013 - 02:02 PM, said:

How about the Barracks? This seems like the place to discuss how particular tactics have worked out.

We're reading everyone's feedback on these changes and will do our best to respond to concerns accordingly.

This is the problem with the new forums.

There are a million sub forums and no one has any idea where to look. And the most recent topic to the right may be anything from mech loadouts to *snicker* game mode discussion.

[keith]

new forums suck. idk were to read/go. too many sub topics. there is no general topic area to post in. bad change, last iteration was good this one is bad.

[Syllogy]

I have to agree w/ many of the posters here, there are just too many sub-forums.

I was able to cut them down by more than 9/10ths without any General Area. Link

Edited by Syllogy, 23 April 2013 - 02:25 PM.

[Escef]

Tell whoever decided to rearrange the forums to go find some chemlight batteries and a box of grid squares. While they're gone, change half of this stuff back. What you have created is a horrifying mess. I could easily see some topics belonging in 2 or even 3 different sub-forums. What we had before was easy to navigate and self-explanatory. What we have now is a royal fuster cluck.

[Panzerman03]

I think they're telling us that social media is a better outlet for our criticisms of the game. Grab your hashtags and go nuts, kiddos!

[keith]

no it should general area to post in, then have a few sub areas to post in. plus this makes the forum looks like a cluster ****, looks horrible

[Felicitatem Parco]

Viterbi, on 23 April 2013 - 02:18 PM, said:

No no, it's a good point, and you're not the only one who has brought this up. We've changed the name of that section to "Tactical Debriefing Room" with this in mind.

Tactical discussions as you've described would be quite appropriate in this section. Does that work?

Well... wouldn't a discussion about Gameplay tactics warrant placement in the Gameplay Discussion subsections? The Barracks is currently distinct from the Gameplay Discussion forums, and so seems more fit for discussing Poptarts and Sniping purely from the standpoint of that match you just had, and not as a general discussion about major gameplay observations and features.

Edited by Prosperity Park, 23 April 2013 - 02:34 PM.

[Agent of Change]

GREAT MODS! Keep doing things, keep sending us threads, the PLJ supports change!

[keith]

lets look at example of other game forums

http://forum.worldoftanks.com/

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/
http://battlelog.bat..._utmk=121773391

look at all of them, look nice and clean. those are just 3 random game forums. MWO is fugly and disorginzed. it may be mod friendly but not user friendly

[Jabilo]

The new structure is quite literally insane (not in a good way).

The amount of sub forums is just.... silly.

I'm sorry, it just turns me off. I can not find the energy to even begin to navigate it tonight. I am going to switch off for the night and perhaps have another try tomorrow when I am less tired.

I think you have tried to solve the negativity of the general forum, which is a worthy goal. But you have gone to far and it looks like you are deliberately obfuscating the forums to just shut people up.

Bring back the general forum until you can come up with a sane forum structure.