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[MadPanda]

What do you think of the AC40 jagger? A lot of people are running it.

[Bilbo]

I think it's too squishy. I prefer the dual ac/10 version. Allows you to stay at range without having to deal with exploding gauss rifles.

[PaintedWolf]

Get SRMs back up and you have a clear counter. I mean you nerf the Mongoose and then you complain about too many poisonous snakes.

Reminds me of the Middle Ages, they kill off all cats for being witches, and then they wonder why they got a rat problem.

Edited by PaintedWolf, 25 March 2013 - 11:27 AM.

[DAoC]

I support Bilbos POV. Dual AC10 is really nice and play much safer.

[NocturnalBeast]

AC40 Cats have been around for a long time, how is it that the Jager Is OP and the K2 is not?

[Falchion Sensei]

Cool video bro! Congrats for surviving as long as you did with both shoulders exposed. That whip-around snapshot on the Dragon's dome was magnificent. I've said I don't want to drop money on an XL engine for my Jager but I may have to give this build a shot.

Like Bilbo I really enjoy AC10s as well. You can run two with ample ammo and ML backup without having to resort to an XL engine. The range they have is quite nice at skirting a brawl.

[MadPanda]

Edward Steiner, on 25 March 2013 - 11:31 AM, said:

AC40 Cats have been around for a long time, how is it that the Jager Is OP and the K2 is not?

AC20's are mounted in the arms giving you better much wider arc to shoot up/down left/right. You can also mount xl engines on the jagger which gives you a lot of free tonnage, ammo is not a problem at all. You can't do any of those on the K2.

[Moldycrow]

Edward Steiner, on 25 March 2013 - 11:31 AM, said:

AC40 Cats have been around for a long time, how is it that the Jager Is OP and the K2 is not?

I think it's because the Jager can mount those AC20's in the arms, allowing it to use an XL engine. Letting it go faster, or allowing more armor. Either way, it can be more survivable than the Boomcat.

[Bilbo]

Edward Steiner, on 25 March 2013 - 11:31 AM, said:

AC40 Cats have been around for a long time, how is it that the Jager Is OP and the K2 is not?

I would argue neither is OP, the Jager is a more squishy target than Cat though. The only thing the Jager has going for it is the high slung arms and those are better taken advantage of from farther away.

[TheForce]

so far my best with this mech was 4 kills and 0 assists.

ya thats right...ZERO assists.

[chewie]

Surprised you managed to survive that long.
oh wait, you hung back and chose targets of opportunity.
EG, you got lucky because everyone else was doing the stand up fighting, while played peek-a-boo and got a shot in where you could.

Which of course there is nothing wrong with that.

But a lot of matches will not go that way.

Its like the splat cats and gauss carrying mechs. Once someone know what you have, they will likely move to take you down as a danger rather than just another opponent.

Still, gj on the kills and such.

Nice video.

[Oni Ralas]

I ran a dual AC20 jag and AC20 cat. I kinda like the cat better honestly, but for pop-over-hill strikes, the jag wins.

[Writer]

While Jagershots are powerful, their danger is diminished by two key points - to actually run a decent Jagershot you have to use an XL Engine, which when combined with the Jagershot's attrocious hitbox and armor makes for an easy kill - a leg hit or a shoulder hit (or cockpit shot) takes it out quickly (while the Splatcat had huge arms and center torso, its side torso was difficult to hit which made XL builds favorable)... which leads into my next point.

The utter domination of PPC's, Gauss, large lasers, snipe builds, and poptarts. Running a Boom Jager is fun when you're sure to get a brawler map, but you get ripped apart on maps like Tourmaline, Alpine, and even Caustic if there are even 2 shooty mechs. Just about everyone's using PPC's and Gauss right now. (hey remember when PGI said they wanted to avoid the mistakes of MW4's multiplayer, but instead are just repeating it with Poptarts and 3rd Person?)

[Grand Ayatollah Kerensky]

Moldycrow, on 25 March 2013 - 11:33 AM, said:

I think it's because the Jager can mount those AC20's in the arms, allowing it to use an XL engine. Letting it go faster, or allowing more armor. Either way, it can be more survivable than the Boomcat.

A Jager, given the same weapons and ammo as the boom cat I currently run, has one advantage, It can run 10 kph faster. That's it. The armor is exactly the same, weapons are the same, and the amount of ammo is the same. The Jager gets an extra 10kph in exchange for being WAY more fragile.

[OpCentar]

I prefer my 4xLPL 'Phract

[Josef Nader]

Agreed with a lot of the above. Dual AC10 is a lot better. Jäger side torsos are too huge to be good brawlers, but twin AC10s let you keep your distance and put out similar damage output. Plus, you can use a standard engine with the Dual AC10. You're a bit slower, but you don't die if an enemy mech turns around and farts on you too hard.

[TheForce]

The official nickname of this mech should be Jager Boom

Like the Jager Bomb shot.

Edited by TheForce, 25 March 2013 - 11:47 AM.

[Josef Nader]

40 proof Jägerbombs.

[Spinning Burr]

AC40 Jagers are not durable enough for brawling. They lack speed and armor and need XL engines with side torsos vulnerable. AC40 mechs are close range brawlers by necessity. These mechs are inferior to AC40 K2 cats in every way. Until people figure this out the hard way, shoot at their side torsos on sight.

[Fremen]

40Jagers are the ****. Been playing one a ton this weekend. (Well 3, I ran it on all 3 Jagers.) XL 270 to take advantage of those arm mounts, 2 MLs, 6 tons of ammo. They're a very Live-by-the-Sword-die-by-the-Sword kind of mech. It's unmatched for pure BANG BANG YOU'RE ******* DEAD potential, but if you're unsupported chances are you die pretty quickly. Also doesn't have the armor to really brawl all game. Sure the XL is kind of a liability, but with Speed Tweak, the added survivability mobility grants mitigates a lot of the issues approaching a target had. Honestly my only real issue with the 40Jager is it overheats a little to often if you're MedLas happy. But other than that, fantastic mech. Really good without being SUPEROP. Oh and the Side Torso hitboxes on Jagers as a whole are pretty big, which can make my running an XL a pain in the *** sometimes. I've run the AC-10, 4 Med Las build, and honestly, it was fun, but most of the time I was engaging with my 10s in enemy weapon range, and then I simply didn't have the killability to deal with things. 40Jager is definitely the vogue Jagermech build, if you ask me.