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[Josef Nader]

You want as much armor on the CT as possible, and I don't reccomend packing ammunition into your torsos. People instinctively shoot at center mass, and premature death via ammo explosion isn't any fun. Aside from that, it's a very solid build that I consider to be the best trainer build in the game. It's the bike I learned on.

[ZeProme]

Josef Nader, on 28 March 2013 - 04:58 PM, said:

You want as much armor on the CT as possible, and I don't reccomend packing ammunition into your torsos. People instinctively shoot at center mass, and premature death via ammo explosion isn't any fun. Aside from that, it's a very solid build that I consider to be the best trainer build in the game. It's the bike I learned on.

Right, thanks for your suggestion.

HBK-4SP-ZeProme-What-2-do-with-half-ton-

What to do with 0.50 ton? Should I swap for the 255 engine instead and get an extra SRM ammo? I also decided to drop the AMS and AMS ammo since that's primarily useless for a mech that goes relatively fast.

[Josef Nader]

I'd leave the 250 engine in-tact and shave a half ton off your legs to get 2 more heat sinks in there.

This mech tends to run pretty hot, and those extra heat sinks can help quite a bit.

Edited by Josef Nader, 28 March 2013 - 05:50 PM.

[ZeProme]

Josef Nader, on 28 March 2013 - 05:50 PM, said:

I'd leave the 250 engine in-tact and shave a half ton off your legs to get 2 more heat sinks in there.

This mech tends to run pretty hot, and those extra heat sinks can help quite a bit.

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Anyways, thanks!

Many thanks!

Edited by ZeProme, 28 March 2013 - 05:51 PM.

[Aware]

ZeProme, on 28 March 2013 - 05:51 PM, said:

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Anyways, thanks!

Many thanks!

HBK-4SP

This is what I run and have run for possible ever. It runs hot though if you are in a stand up fight. You can switch the head laser for tag or and extra DHS if you feel. I honestly run the extra DHS.

[Just wanna play]

pft. 43% "hot", i call bs
anyway, anyone see a way to improve this version of my phract??
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...fb59413d30de560

i noticed the ac/20, even tho its really powerful, takes up a lot of space and tonnage, and i thought i might be able to get a more powerful set-up switching to something a little bit lighter, and so i put in large lasers, if there is anything i don't like about it, its the xl engine, could someone figure out a way to put in a std engine while keeping some of the speed, med range fire power, and armor?

imo opinion, ac/20 is something i would put in if i had a lot of tonnage, and only one ballistic hard point, and everything else was the best i could get

if you thought it was worth it, you can also downgrade the engine and put in another heat sinks

nvm, just noticed it wouldnt have as many hs on the engine then

[Delchev]

Just wanna play, on 29 March 2013 - 09:17 AM, said:

pft. 43% "hot", i call bs
anyway, anyone see a way to improve this version of my phract??
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...fb59413d30de560

i noticed the ac/20, even tho its really powerful, takes up a lot of space and tonnage, and i thought i might be able to get a more powerful set-up switching to something a little bit lighter, and so i put in large lasers, if there is anything i don't like about it, its the xl engine, could someone figure out a way to put in a std engine while keeping some of the speed, med range fire power, and armor?

imo opinion, ac/20 is something i would put in if i had a lot of tonnage, and only one ballistic hard point, and everything else was the best i could get

if you thought it was worth it, you can also downgrade the engine and put in another heat sinks

nvm, just noticed it wouldnt have as many hs on the engine then

I have two suggestions to think about. If you have XL engine, why not use gauss. If your shoulder explodes, you are killed anyway. It will have excellent range, better heat efficiency. Something like this. Use your arm as a shield. Gauss has longer reload, so that you can turn torso while it recharges. With UAC5 you have to face your enemy pretty much all the time.
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...537f73adebe2421

Another alternative with standard engine (i pick 280 as it is stock engine) and gauss:
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...668fbfd39fd2a0c

Of course you switch large lasers to mediums. A bit less fire power, but standard engine gives more survivability.

But thats more a deviation, not real tweak

[Just wanna play]

Delchev, on 29 March 2013 - 11:18 AM, said:

I have two suggestions to think about. If you have XL engine, why not use gauss. If your shoulder explodes, you are killed anyway. It will have excellent range, better heat efficiency. Something like this. Use your arm as a shield. Gauss has longer reload, so that you can turn torso while it recharges. With UAC5 you have to face your enemy pretty much all the time.
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...537f73adebe2421

Another alternative with standard engine (i pick 280 as it is stock engine) and gauss:
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...668fbfd39fd2a0c

Of course you switch large lasers to mediums. A bit less fire power, but standard engine gives more survivability.

But thats more a deviation, not real tweak

hmm, well that second variant would be some what like what i have now, which is ac/20, 1 large laser, 2 mediums, and 2 srm 6s

i have never used a guass rifle before, i might go trest it out, and it makes no sense it produces so little heat imo

[Just wanna play]

after all, it is powered by massive amounts of electricity being stored up in capacitors, then released constantly
other then heat, what are its advantages over the ac/20? i noticed its weaker then the ac/20, and most ballistic weapons have a higher dps, so whats so special about it?

[FrankEinstein42]

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...1b3ff59425b5576

Could you optimize this for me? I iz n00b. (at optimized builds).

[Narcissistic Martyr]

Just wanna play, on 29 March 2013 - 12:49 PM, said:

hmm, well that second variant would be some what like what i have now, which is ac/20, 1 large laser, 2 mediums, and 2 srm 6s

i have never used a guass rifle before, i might go trest it out, and it makes no sense it produces so little heat imo

Just wanna play, on 29 March 2013 - 12:52 PM, said:

after all, it is powered by massive amounts of electricity being stored up in capacitors, then released constantly
other then heat, what are its advantages over the ac/20? i noticed its weaker then the ac/20, and most ballistic weapons have a higher dps, so whats so special about it?

The superconducting coils in the Gauss Rifle have little to no resistance and thus produce little heat when fired. At least that's my take on them.

Now, onto my ride that needs pimping.

I need a third treb so I can get my elite on, here are my ideas with the engines I already own. I'm good with either the 7k or the 3C and have XL250, XL325, and XL360 engines available as well as the XL300 if I buy a 3C.

TBT-7K

TBT-7K Gauss + PPC

url=http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=60&l=932fcb24383fa4f6adcf15fd6952fff179cd86dc]TBT-3C-Scout[/url]




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[SoldierHair]

Your DDC is kind of a mess.Here is what i think it is a better build:

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...e4e2c2324c02b2f

[Just wanna play]

Narcissistic Martyr, on 29 March 2013 - 02:32 PM, said:

The superconducting coils in the Gauss Rifle have little to no resistance and thus produce little heat when fired. At least that's my take on them.

hmm, i guess that could be true, of course, i would think then everything on the entire mech dealing with electricty would be super conducting, and in that case, why do lasers produce any heat then???

[Just wanna play]

FrankEinstein42, on 29 March 2013 - 02:23 PM, said:

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...1b3ff59425b5576

Could you optimize this for me? I iz n00b. (at optimized builds).

is it ok if i upgrade the medium pulses to large lasers?????? or do you want to keep that weapon load out?

also how much do you value the ams??? lrms are kinda weak right now

[Delchev]

Just wanna play, on 29 March 2013 - 02:36 PM, said:

hmm, i guess that could be true, of course, i would think then everything on the entire mech dealing with electricty would be super conducting, and in that case, why do lasers produce any heat then???

Advantage of Gauss over AC/20 is that Gauss is good at very high distances as well as close-up. AC/20 is purely close-medium range. Gauss can also act as a sniper rifle. Definitely try it out.

[Just wanna play]

i did, dont like the fact it weighs one more ton, forcing me to use one less ton of ammo, and i do tend to get in close with my set-up anyway
ac/20 can be used out to 810m, i use it at that range all the time, loses dmg, but still works

[Just wanna play]

FrankEinstein42, on 29 March 2013 - 02:23 PM, said:

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...1b3ff59425b5576

Could you optimize this for me? I iz n00b. (at optimized builds).

heres my optimized version of your ddc
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...79fe1f07209dbbc

you have an ecm, which is better then ams, so i took it off, it is faster, has better range, runs cooler, and does more dmg, if you rather have medium pulses, let me know, and i will optimize it for those 2, will mainly be faster, i wouldn't recommend that tho

i tried keeping your og weapon load out, but an atlas should have better then 2 medium pulses for energy weapons

[Just wanna play]

Narcissistic Martyr, on 29 March 2013 - 02:32 PM, said:

The superconducting coils in the Gauss Rifle have little to no resistance and thus produce little heat when fired. At least that's my take on them.

Now, onto my ride that needs pimping.

I need a third treb so I can get my elite on, here are my ideas with the engines I already own. I'm good with either the 7k or the 3C and have XL250, XL325, and XL360 engines available as well as the XL300 if I buy a 3C.

TBT-7K

TBT-7K Gauss + PPC

url=http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=60&l=932fcb24383fa4f6adcf15fd6952fff179cd86dc]TBT-3C-Scout[/url]




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for the top one, i dont think i can do anything with out removing weapons and/or ammo, for the bottom one however, for a slight drop in heat efficiency down to 50%, which is still great, i can get you this, which is a lot faster
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...e05d39092849f8c

with that you also have the option to drop to a smaller engine, although it would probably still be faster, and add in something to fill up those two extra slots

[MindSnap]

First post!

I'm thinking of replacing my Cataphract 2X with a 3D (something about the 2X's hardpoints annoys me,. Plus, jumpjets!)

I was thinking of doing something along these lines.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...2a5d862e1fbaa39

Haven't tried it out as I don't yet own a 3D, but I'm guessing it'll run hot in practice. I might consider switching to a normal PPC, but then my long-range power is nil. I'd also kind of like to go faster, but can't seem to reconcile a 300 with jumpjets, heatsinks and armour. Speaking of jumpjets, do 3Ds actually need/want all four?

Thanks for any suggestions.

[Just wanna play]

i love my 2xs hard points..... it rapes dual ac/20 jagers.....

so i know what weapons you should be using, are you trying to focus on long range, short range, medium range, what?? if you want i can show you my 2x if you want to try it out, its a baby atlas imo

not much can be done without messing with the weapons and such, is it a brawler or sniper??

are you trying to make it good all around?

about the jump jets, at first having more then 1 jump jet didn't do anything, but that might have changed by now