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[Gut]

This was taken from Sarna and is part of the reason why I'm having a hard time deciding:

Atlas
Cost 9,626,000 C-bills
Catapult
Cost 5,790,125 C-bills
Hunchback
Cost 3,467,875 C-bills
Jenner
Cost 3,198,375 C-bills

Will people be getting the Atlas just to offset it's higher cost down the road and using their $80 in game currency to get their other mechs? Obviously, these numbers may not match in-game cost.

Also, is there any word on whether the Foundation Mech's loadout is actually different, and whether it can be altered in the mech bay like normal mechs?

Edited by Gut, 04 June 2012 - 04:29 AM.

[Rogen]

I would go for the Catapult as i like it most (i love nonhumanoid mechs), but hard to tell if nothing is known.

Edited by Rogen, 04 June 2012 - 04:37 AM.

[Jost]

Gut, on 04 June 2012 - 04:27 AM, said:

Will people be getting the Atlas just to offset it's higher cost down the road and using their $80 in game currency to get their other mechs? Obviously, these numbers may not match in-game cost.

Also, is there any word on whether the Foundation Mech's loadout is actually different, and whether it can be altered in the mech bay like normal mechs?

Don't know about "people". I only know about me. Unless there's something very surprising in the mechbay, I'll be doing as you say: picking the Atlas as my founder's mech, and using my money to buy the lighter/cheaper mechs.

One of those surprises would be an inability to alter loadouts. I'm not sure what I'd do then, but it would definitely be something I'd have to think about.

[Nexx Nisshoko]

So i was thinking about this too, you only get one right? And I believe only when using that mech do you get the lifetime bonus for cbills and xp? In that case id go with what I plan on using most, most likely the Catapult because I know the Atlas is going to be either overused by N00bs or just not useful in most fights.

[Frostiken]

The cost of all starter / founder mechs would have to be normalized specifically because to not do so would be stupid. Just take an Atlas as your 'starter' mech, immediately sell it, buy the same light you could've picked but with an extra 3 million C-Bills for gear?

[Torcip]

They way I'm thinking it's going to be is that the mech is going to look and be unique. Probably have a unique set of hardpoints or something like that. If not, I think Nexx is right about the cbills and xp thing, the way the article is written it seems that those bonuses will only be for when using that particular mech; so you would want to pick the one you would play the most.

[CompleteTanker]

Gut, on 04 June 2012 - 04:27 AM, said:

This was taken from Sarna and is part of the reason why I'm having a hard time deciding:

Atlas
Cost 9,626,000 C-bills
Catapult
Cost 5,790,125 C-bills
Hunchback
Cost 3,467,875 C-bills
Jenner
Cost 3,198,375 C-bills

/snip/

Pic is lifted from the MechLab video (HD, but still quite blurry).

Of course, knowing people would probably do this very thing, the prices they show for the video may not be the actual in game price (if you see what I mean).

[Kazzamo]

Yeah but notice said mechs have CB price which is earned from in game, and an MC price, which is the RL money. From the MC price granted it is blurry but it looks like with RL money an Atlas is cheaper than a Catapult. Looks like it's listed as 500 MC to me, the same price as a Jenner.

[Redshift2k5]

The Atlas is 900 MC in the video.

Edited by Redshift2k5, 04 June 2012 - 07:36 AM.

[Arkada]

Pros and Cons

Atlas -

• Con - Assault mechs are slow and if you don't get to the battle you don't do much damage and don't earn much C-bills.
  
• Con - if you get blown up you likely have a big repair bill. In similar games team battle games players with 60% win ratios still die 70% of the time.
  
• Pro - If the C-bills have to be earned some players may take forever to earn enough C-bills to buy an atlas. Getting it free sounds like a really good option.

Jenner

• Pro - humm its a good scout mech?
  
• Possible pro - may be a good money earner depends on how much scouting pays in game.
  
• Con - Its cheapest of all choices of free mechs. Not exactly a bang for you buck.
  
• Con - scouting pay out... may only pay out based on first scouting. if so and there are 2 scout mechs on your team some one else is competing for that same rewards points. Basically your profit drops directly compared to number of other recon mechs on the team. And recon mechs are cheap so everyone will be able to buy them with C-bills.

HBK

• Pro - is there one? not any faster than the catapult and less firepower.
  
• Con - second cheapest in terms of C-bills may be better off buying an HBK with earned ingame c-bills

Catapult

• Pro - Second most expensive choice in terms of c-bills.
  
• Pro - Basically this is an arty platform you can deal a lot of damage which translates into xp and c-bills.
  
• Pro - Arty plat form so if your on winning side you may take no damage and still earn lots of c-bills and not have any repairs.
  
• Con - ammo based so lost of c-bills spent on ammo reloading.
  
• Con - prime target for recon mechs.

Over all I'm leaning towards the catapult at this point in time.

[Mech Wrench]

Ill be be buying the catapult. Iv'e never been much for light mechs, and JJ's are a must for me. wish they had the Gladiator, or Templar.. I don't think the bonus cbill earning rate is going to be anything to get excited about. IMO the only reason to buy into the founders package is to stand out with a unique looking mech and start out with an 80% discounted in game cash fund.

[Frostiken]

The Catapult seems like the best choice, to the extent that it sounds like *everyone* will be using the Catapult.

I predict a lot of Atlas and Catapult spam for a while.

[Kazzamo]

Redshift2k5, on 04 June 2012 - 07:33 AM, said:

The Atlas is 900 MC in the video.

Fair enough, it's just really hard to read that pic. It's making me wonder what the conversion rate for USD to MC is. 0.10 to 1 would make an Atlas $90 and I don't see that happening. Could be 0.01 to 1 which would make an Atlas $9 though which while I wouldn't complain sounds on the cheap side.

[Orion T Baxter]

I want a dragon for my founders mech

[chainedbeast]

it is all about the c-bills and sustainment.

[Aegis Kleais]

If you're not interested in an Atlas (especially one that you probably won't be able to sell) then it's not worth your time to buy one.

The Mech you get comes with a permanent bonus, so it makes more sense to buy a Mech you FEEL you'll use more.

Of course, since we're all starting out, there's going to be a LOT of "buyer's remorse" unless PGI implements a feature I had suggested where you get a "Work Order" that allows you to upgrade a Mech of your Choice to the "Founders" skin and bonus permanently. This would allow you to try the Mechs out in combat before committing to the permanent (and probably non-transferable) bonus.

I really wish the bonus was available on all Mechs. Would love to get it on the Cataphract.

Edited by Aegis Kleais, 04 June 2012 - 07:43 AM.

[Toothman]

Want to bet the founder mech can't be sold?

[Kazzamo]

Why would anybody sell a founders mech? They have a CB and XP boost on them forever. The question here is about cost, is it better to get the free atlas since it's the most expensive and buy the other mechs cheaper with MC/CB.

[Rizdaw]

Why is everyone assuming what the c-bills bonus will be the same for every mech? What if lights will have a waaaay bigger bonus?

[Kallor Mar]

question is.. how are the matches setup? will there be a limit as to how many assault mechs there can be in a fight, or can everyone take one? I think choosing the atlas is fine, but personally Id rather go with the catapult or hunchback. sniping or guerilla wars.