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[Voidcrafter]

Malora Sidewinder, on 28 March 2013 - 12:40 AM, said:

...I'm sorry, did you just blatantly state that precision weapons are doing damage spread throughout the enemy mech?

They DO.
But not cause the reason most people imagine.
It's just that, when you're firing at something faar far away(in a distant galaxy etc.) , ordinary you're weapons adjust, so they hit that exact spot in the distance your aim is at.
The problem - with PPCs you NEED to lead the target, thus you're aiming in the enviorment, which is further that your actual target is, thus the two PPC shots have a distance between them, resulting hitting different body parts at more than 400m range.
That's cause if you wanna hit relatively the same body part, the best thing you can do with your 9M would be - in a 2 PPC scenario - to put the one PPC in your RIGHT hand, and the other in your RIGHT torso, so both of them don't have that much distance between their firing location.
Two PPCs on your RIGHT side of your mechs are far more accurate than, let we say, a PPC in your LEFT hand and a PPC in your right hand(in that scenario, trying to hit something more than 700m away would often result only one of the PPCs hit).
It's not something that could or would or must be fixed - it just requires some practice to make it work right.
And no.
I do not agree with you about the 9M - I thought that way before I finally got the way it's ment to be played for me.
And I got screenshots that prove you wrong if you're persistant.
I can show you if you wanna - they're on my "average" games - they are not from my "best" games and they're from yesterday
EDIT: speaking of which - I would probably start a topic for that(average game screenshots) a bit later.

Edited by Voidcrafter, 28 March 2013 - 01:18 AM.

[xxx WreckinBallRaj xxx]

The problem is that it shoves 4 weapons into the Chest, which is an area that only gets 2 slots for use. So regardless of weight or space costs, you can't even use the other 2. Then, in order to use the first 2, they both must be 1 slot max. If one is 2 slots, then all 3 of the other hardpoints go to waste. Also, you can't fit a 3 slot weapon there at all. Why would you want this kind of restriction? Is the bigger engine really that important?

[SgtMagor]

was wondering ff ppc's cause splash damage?, iirc I think that was 1 of the features that was added or going to be added in mw4. as well as heat, and EMP that rebooted the entire hud!

[Voidcrafter]

Bluten, on 28 March 2013 - 01:24 AM, said:

The problem is that it shoves 4 weapons into the Chest, which is an area that only gets 2 slots for use. So regardless of weight or space costs, you can't even use the other 2. Then, in order to use the first 2, they both must be 1 slot max. If one is 2 slots, then all 3 of the other hardpoints go to waste. Also, you can't fit a 3 slot weapon there at all. Why would you want this kind of restriction? Is the bigger engine really that important?

Probably you're seing it wrong - 3xPPC 3xSSRM work(ed)s fine(well... until the missle "fix" anyways ), 2xERPPC, 2xSRM4 and another SRM4(or SRM6, tho it will fire 2/3 times, cause of the missile openings being 2 if I recall right).
3xPPC, 3xMeds is currently what I'm playing with.
9M can go with about 84kph!!!! with an XL(and currently mine is not even the highest one) and a speed tweak.
What other Assault can do that?
No pretty babies here ofcourse
Not a big fan of XLs?
Well for me atleast - I prefer speed more than "survivability" itself, cause actualy the speed for me adds more survivability than the standart engine.
If you don't like all this things well...
I don't think the problem is exactly in the 9M as a mech, as a variant...
But more likely the problem is in you not liking the way it's supose to be played right

[Miken]

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...ebffab00ec1e950
laserboat )

[Voidcrafter]

Did the topic thing - got some screens of 9M(3xPPC, 3xMed Lasers) there - it's not bad at all

http://mwomercs.com/...e-game-results/

[javathejat]

This is my best mech... 2 Erppcs 1 Med. Laser and 3 Srm4, with a STD 325... a fast assault that can snipe and brawl.

Have you seen its arms? your arms are your shield. Practice your torso twist, spread that damage

[Laniarty]

2x ERPPC in Left Right torsos
1x LL in RA
1xML in head
1xML in CT
1xSSRM in CT
1xSSRM in LA
380XL

Very balanced build, does good damage at range and precision damage up closer. Can fend off lights with streaks and lasers and keep range on slower brawlers.

My favorite mech in my garage!

[Corwin Vickers]

They are pretty skinny side ways though. Perhaps shoot and twist?

[TheStrider]

Here is my build. Best in my mech bay. I rip people apart with it, and chase lights down.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...4b3b2ffada5677d

(Note - I have Awesomes Mastered, so this guy does 84.6)

Edited by TheStrider, 28 March 2013 - 05:38 AM.

[AWSM SAWS]

I've used that awesome for quite a while and I say that I prefer to have 2 PPCs in the shoulders and an ER PPC in the arm for longer range shots. I don't normally expect to hit specific spots with those PPCs unless the target is standing still. I used a head laser and SSRMs for faster targets normally. I also focus on heavies and assaults, particurly those ECM Atlases outside of cover.
That's kinda sticking close to the original build so I'm sure someone else will have a good custom with lasers instead.

[AnnoyingCat]

i like my atlas

[Xenois Shalashaska]

Slater01, on 27 March 2013 - 09:48 PM, said:

I been watching my stats, and out of all my mechs my Awesome 9M is my only sucky stat mech. It has a horrible 1 win to 2 losses record over 50+ games. Its not that I have a bad build or I'm a bad pilot (although a new zoom, could really help this build). It just seems, still, that the Awesome is still a secondary mech.
They are by far the easiest mech to core, for their weight.
Their primary weapons; PPCs and ERPPCs spread their damage across different mech sections. Making it harder to bring down opponents.

In light of this what do role do you use your Awesome for?
Is there hope for the Awesome with the coming maps?
Will the hit boxes be reworked?
Will PPCs not spread their damage?

I have had success with my 8T (loadout similar to stock)

You crazy man., the 9M is a monster of a mech. I have a 3.87 kill ratio in my one. You should try running a stock 345 engine with 4 large lasers. Then tell me you love me

[OneEyed Jack]

Bluten, on 28 March 2013 - 01:24 AM, said:

The problem is that it shoves 4 weapons into the Chest, which is an area that only gets 2 slots for use. So regardless of weight or space costs, you can't even use the other 2. Then, in order to use the first 2, they both must be 1 slot max. If one is 2 slots, then all 3 of the other hardpoints go to waste. Also, you can't fit a 3 slot weapon there at all. Why would you want this kind of restriction? Is the bigger engine really that important?

It doesn't "shove 4 weapons into the Chest." It gives options. It's just a location that can give either one, and it has plenty of total hardpoints even without being able to use all 4 in the CT.

SgtMagor, on 28 March 2013 - 01:33 AM, said:

was wondering ff ppc's cause splash damage?, iirc I think that was 1 of the features that was added or going to be added in mw4. as well as heat, and EMP that rebooted the entire hud!

No, PPCs do not splash. It was rumored for awhile, probably because of the convergence issue Voidcrafter pointed out, but that rumor seems to have finally died down.

[Alistair Winter]

There's nothing wrong with the Awesome, and the 9M is probably the best of all variants, especially with Streaks (which are OP, mind). I'm glad it's not the most common mech, it makes me feel more special when I use mine.

PPCs, Pulse lasers, large lasers, even medium laser boating. I do quite well with the Awesome, and the people I play with do too.

[Xenois Shalashaska]

King Arthur IV, on 27 March 2013 - 09:58 PM, said:

3ppc, 1 medium laser, 20DSH, 320STD.

or

4large laser, 20DHS, XL385.

have fun

Come on kingy. You know xl's are death traps. Cya some time on Armd

[Rezerford]

I really love Awesome, all the variants are just excellent.
Favorite one is 8R with 2 LL , 4 SRM6+Artemis, 300 STD engine and 16 DHS.
This is a real monster in a close combat.
You don't like Awesome? Maybe you just have no clue how to cook it?

[Voidcrafter]

Xenois Shalashaska, on 28 March 2013 - 06:14 AM, said:

Come on kingy. You know xl's are death traps. Cya some time on Armd

I found that speed adds more survivability than any ordinary engine can give you in the game - it's just one of those "ALL-OR-NOTHING" stuff, that I really like.
But ofcourse, that's just me.
But having bought the fastest of the assault mechs and never tryied to see how would it go on full speed I don't know... isn't that a bit short sighted?

[Rezerford]

Voidcrafter, on 28 March 2013 - 06:18 AM, said:

I found that speed adds more survivability than any ordinary engine can give you in the game - it's just one of those "ALL-OR-NOTHING" stuff, that I really like.
But ofcourse, that's just me.
But having bought the fastest of the assault mechs and never tryied to see how would it go on full speed I don't know... isn't that a bit short sighted?

146% agree! 9M and Pretty Baby are made for speed. No use to buy 'em if you ain't gonna ride fast.

[Mxxpower]

Slater01, on 27 March 2013 - 09:48 PM, said:

I been watching my stats, and out of all my mechs my Awesome 9M is my only sucky stat mech. It has a horrible 1 win to 2 losses record over 50+ games. Its not that I have a bad build or I'm a bad pilot (although a new zoom, could really help this build). It just seems, still, that the Awesome is still a secondary mech.
They are by far the easiest mech to core, for their weight.
Their primary weapons; PPCs and ERPPCs spread their damage across different mech sections. Making it harder to bring down opponents.

In light of this what do role do you use your Awesome for?
Is there hope for the Awesome with the coming maps?
Will the hit boxes be reworked?
Will PPCs not spread their damage?

I have had success with my 8T (loadout similar to stock)

The awesome 9m is the best variant, including pretty baby which I also own.

ERPPC
5 MPLS
SRM 6
full armor, and standard 285 engine. 21 dbl heatsinks, AND an AMS

there isn't anything that can't be done with it....

The most dis-satisfying thing about it, is that it is better than pretty baby, which runs about 20 bucks