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[Benjamin Dolby]

The STK-4N is on sale, but is it worth buying ?


STK-5M
Has 5 missile launchers, the most of any stalker.

STK-3H
Has missile launchers can fire 20 X 2 in one go, giving it the best alpha.

STK-5S->-STK-3F>STK-4N
The STK-5S has 6 laser and 4 launchers and 2 ams, the STK-3F losses 1 of the ams (but gets a wider torso twist range or so I have read) and then STK-4N loses a arm missile hard point.

Am I missing something or is the STK-4N just worse ?

-Thanks

[Khobai]

Just worse.

[Roadbeer]

Well, if you really have nothing else to spend CBills on and have an extra mechbay that you never plan on using.

[1sh0t]

I'm finding the 3F lasered up to be a beast in pugs. If you can aim then I recommend it.

[Carrioncrows]

There really isn't a reason to buy a Stalker period.

Low agility and only missile and energy hard points leave them with serious heat issues.

But if you must the 4N has 20 missile ports in the arms instead of the usual 10. This means a LRM20 launches in 1 wave instead of 2.

Edited by Carrioncrows, 28 March 2013 - 05:21 PM.

[Khobai]

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There really isn't a reason to buy a Stalker period.

Maybe not for you. Some of the best assault pilots in the game pilot Stalkers though.

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But if you must the 4N has 20 missile ports in the arms instead of the usual 10. This means a LRM20 launches in 1 wave instead of 2.

Nope thats the 3H.

[OneEyed Jack]

No, there's really not a good reason, if you have a better way to acquire a better mech. However the Trial by Fire sales are directed at new players who have been playing those mechs. If you don't want to wait until you can afford a mech with Cb, but would rather spend a little cash to get rolling with an owned mech, then getting one 1/2 off is not a bad choice, even if it's not the optimal variant.

[Carrioncrows]

Khobai, on 28 March 2013 - 05:23 PM, said:

Maybe not for you. Some of the best assault pilots in the game pilot Stalkers though.

6 PPC boats does not a good pilot make, sure it's harder than a streakcat. The good pilot is the spider who solo's it.

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Nope thats the 3H.

Quite right, my bad. And the answer is still no on the stalkers. I only ever bought them because I reached mastery level with every other mech out there so why not.

[Johnny Reb]

^{Nope, 3F is boss then 5M then.....I forget its gone but wasnt the 4N!}

[Davers]

Benjamin Dolby, on 28 March 2013 - 05:07 PM, said:

The STK-4N is on sale, but is it worth buying ?


STK-5M
Has 5 missile launchers, the most of any stalker.

STK-3H
Has missile launchers can fire 20 X 2 in one go, giving it the best alpha.

STK-5S->-STK-3F>STK-4N
The STK-5S has 6 laser and 4 launchers and 2 ams, the STK-3F losses 1 of the ams (but gets a wider torso twist range or so I have read) and then STK-4N loses a arm missile hard point.

Am I missing something or is the STK-4N just worse ?

-Thanks

The real answer is no mech that is available for Cbills should be bought with real money.

[Redshift2k5]

The 3F is actually the best Stalker, owing to a notably larger torso turn radius. The double AMS of the 5S is not that great, but enough to make the 5S better than either of the 4*

[Aym]

Well the 4N is the trial mech this week, and if you did your cadet bonus with the double XP you probably have done all the work already, so if you buy it, it's already levelled. There is that one reason.

[Ph30nix]

the fact that even sale its about $15 is enough reason not to buy it for me lol i mean at least hero mechs at that price get a life time C-bill boost....

[Koniving]

Benjamin Dolby, on 28 March 2013 - 05:07 PM, said:

The STK-4N is on sale, but is it worth buying ?


STK-5M
Has 5 missile launchers, the most of any stalker.

STK-3H
Has missile launchers can fire 20 X 2 in one go, giving it the best alpha.

STK-5S->-STK-3F>STK-4N
The STK-5S has 6 laser and 4 launchers and 2 ams, the STK-3F losses 1 of the ams (but gets a wider torso twist range or so I have read) and then STK-4N loses a arm missile hard point.

Am I missing something or is the STK-4N just worse ?

-Thanks

It (the 4N) was my second stalker. The 3H being my first.

I found it to be a good one for a balanced range rig, if nothing else because the asymmetrical build forces the thought of "Oh sure I'll throw an LRM-15 in there."

I'd run a 280 or 275. Throw in two SRM-6s in the side torsos, an LRM-15 in the right arm. Artemis optional. 6 medium lasers. Beagle Active Probe to consume some extra weight. Two tons of LRM ammo, and 4 tons of SRM ammo. Lots of forward armor of course.

Btw. Third stalker was 3F. I'm running the 5S as my fourth stalker. Honestly this is the worst one I've used thus far. With an identical build to my 3F and 3H, trading one heat sink for an additional AMS and a little more armor, I honestly don't like it.

The 5M has a flaw, in that one launcher is a single tube that fires them in an easy to destroy stream, so anyone with an AMS can nullify that launcher easily. Also the biggest launcher you equip goes into the NARC single tube launcher, EVERY time. So you can't make it work out.

Edited by Koniving, 29 March 2013 - 08:37 AM.

[Zendred]

Is the STK-4N worht it?

Perhaps. The STK-4N has better heat management than the other STK variants because it has more heat sinks, at the cost of hard points. For the new STK pilot, this may be a critical factor in learning heat management. For experienced STK pilots who understand heat management, it could be a hindrance.

For my style, the 4N was and remains a great investment. It's medium ranged alpha is absolutely stunning and if it doesn't destroy the future victim, two more hits will. While I also own the 3F and M, the 4N still sees quite a bit of action, the M the least.

[Edson Drake]

The 4N doesn't have more heatsink capability than the other Stalkers, it is the same.

It was my first too, I just filled it with 6X Large Lasers and gave it a go. As soon as I got the 3F, 5M and 3 H I got rid of it. Why? The other 3 outclass it in every way. It's not a bad mech, in fact it's good, but the other Stalkers are much better.

[Krazy Kat]

The 4N is the ONLY Stalker that can equip a command console. This is a worthless item right now.
But in the future it might be a really useful item.

Edited by Krazy Kat, 07 June 2013 - 09:47 AM.