13 replies to this topic

[krash27]

Which mech to chose.
I am looking to purchase myself a Jaeger or the Treb, but I can not decide which mech line to go with.
I would like to build one of them up as a fairly maneuverable and quick interdiction mech and be able to move wuickly with enough firepower to possibly stop break through actions.
I am thinking of a medium to fairly long range capable mech that can still deal decent damage when it comes to close range.

Thoughts and opinions on these two mech lines and even builds would be appreciated.

[MadPanda]

Well, trebutche sucks and jagermech rules. You got a tough choice infront of you.

[Oppresor]

From what I have seen so far the Jagermech can do some serious damage. The best examples I have seen go in with (I would say) twin AC5's.

[Moromillas]

Have you tried each trial Mech for a while?

[Vermaxx]

Trebuchets are too light on missile hardpoints. Seriously, the only one with three is the one with an XL and a huge pricetag. I was really disappointed.

YES, they have jump jets. I would rather go with Centurions for big engines. The Centi with three missile hardpoints is less than half the cost of the Trebuchet.

The Jagermech is a heavy, which means less than it used it since ELO doesn't force-match weight class. If that comes back, the choice is SLIGHTLY harder, since a Trebuchet is a medium and might net the enemy team a Cicada, or at the worst another 50 tonner. Nonetheless, the Jagermechs have better hardpoints than Trebuchets, the Jagers still jump, and they're pretty flexible on engine size. Heavies are also more durable in the long run. There is very little to gain with everyone on your team running mediums instead of heavies.

In short, I would go with the Jagers. I'm not buying any of them because I already have a medium (Hunch) and a heavy (Catapult), and I'm now working on Atlas.

[Kadassa]

I run a Jager and its slow and wide but It can do some devistating damage I've done 4 ac2s with success 4 ac5s eh not that good 2 ac20s ...they bring pain. I would assume that the Treb is pretty close to a Cent only faster and with JJs and decent weapons layout...though I haven't played one yet. I will say that the Jager won't dissapoint. I normally don't like Ballistics but I find them entertaining on that mech :3

[Roughneck45]

The stand out fro trebs are the JJ's. if you didnt want to focus or incorporate them in the build, hunchbacks and cents are better at everything else.

The stand out for jagers are dual AC20's with an XL engine. Most everything else cataphracts can do better, although the jager with missile hardpoints is probably the most flexible for diverse loadouts.

Edited by Roughneck45, 30 March 2013 - 04:36 PM.

[Gralzeim]

Roughneck45, on 30 March 2013 - 04:35 PM, said:

Most everything else cataphracts can do better

Just wanted to point out that a dual-Gauss Jager has an advantage with sniping over a Cataphract 4X with dual-Gauss, because the guns are mounted much higher up. A Cataphract with its sniping weapon in its arm needs to crest a ridge with almost all of its body because of its low-slung arms, while a Jager only has to expose the top bit of its body. Similarly true with other longer ranged ballistics. Also a Cataphract cannot run quad UAC/5. Granted, an Ilya can run three, with probably better armor, but that's neither here nor there.

Just something to think about.

Edited by Gralzeim, 30 March 2013 - 07:05 PM.

[MischiefSC]

Jag. No question. Better in pretty much every way. Mediums exist largely to pad kill stats for lights, heavies and assaults. Some people are alright with them and that's great. They'd be better in heavies but whatever.

Jag, 280XL, 2xAC20, 2ML, 6 tons ammo, endo. Stick and move, shoot the same spot twice and kill people.

[Roughneck45]

Gralzeim, on 30 March 2013 - 07:03 PM, said:

Just wanted to point out that a dual-Gauss Jager has an advantage with sniping over a Cataphract 4X with dual-Gauss, because the guns are mounted much higher up. A Cataphract with its sniping weapon in its arm needs to crest a ridge with almost all of its body because of its low-slung arms, while a Jager only has to expose the top bit of its body. Similarly true with other longer ranged ballistics. Also a Cataphract cannot run quad UAC/5. Granted, an Ilya can run three, with probably better armor, but that's neither here nor there.

Just something to think about.

And the cataphract 3D can take JJs and 4mlas. The JJs make the low hung arms a non issue, and the 4 mlas make this mech even deadlier up close.

Or you can trade those major advantages for arms at your eyes.

Cata every time IMO

Jager can quad UAC5 but that is more of a goof around build, seriously lacking in ammo, armor, speed, or a mix of the 3.

Edited by Roughneck45, 30 March 2013 - 07:28 PM.

[ZeProme]

Go with JägerMech. Trebuchet is indeed fast and has JJs but recent LRM nerfs make its role hard to carry its weight.

[krash27]

Well it looks like the Jaeg is the route to go. I have not tried either Jaeg or Treb as of yet, so it should be a fun experience.

Thanks for the input everyone.

[WildeKarde]

Well having just elited treb's they are pretty decent and can have some good games, even topping damage or kills. You need to play them on the flanks and skirmish, XL's work as you don't die any quicker than with a STD. LRM nerf hits them harder but they can mount SRM's plus JJ as a quick skirmisher. They are not stand up and brawl at all.

Not played a jaeg yet but as has been said they have their advantages.

[Siluss]

Well if you want speed its Treb its a fast mech, you dont have the tonage to get enough range weapons to do support fire unless you go LRMs which are not that great right now but if your good you can still do some decent dmg with them.

If you want fire support and the apility to do pinpoint dmg take the Jaeg, I might be opposite of most people though because I like the 4 ac5 build but love 2 ac 10s alot which seem to not be noticed much for this mech. But top speed in the 80 kps its not too fast.