Pinselborste, on 31 March 2013 - 05:05 AM, said:
if they dont allow tech mixing, they have to balance clan tech, majority of the players will switch to clans otherwhise, cause people want to be able to have 1v1 fights they can win and not fights where they know they have to die cause its that way in a TT game they dont even know.
Again, if it's balanced via other means, a Highlander will be a fair fight for a Ryoken. This means you'll still have your 1 v 1 fights, it's just that you'd be facing an asymmetrical force.
Clan stuff can be balanced vs IS stuff as
separate factions through tonnage, BV, or any number of factors.
Congzilla, on 31 March 2013 - 05:11 AM, said:
People seem to forget that clan tech mixing is Battletech cannon.
"The Kell Hounds fought the Clans on Twycross and Luthien, with
Wolf's Dragoons. During a lull in the early fighting, they managed to rebuild their numbers and start to incorporate the Clan technology."
The battle for Twycross happens in the 4th wave of the clan invasion which lasts from July to October of 3050.
A: As said, realy uncommon.
B: The
Wolf's Dragoons are ex-Clan and assisted them in doing so.
This isn't something 99.9% of units, mercenary or otherwise, would be able to do. Some IS Mercs do have hybrid guns (Usually a handful - like 2 Clan ER Lasers on an otherwise IS 'mech - why I liked the idea of "Experimental" variants allowing 1 or 2 Clan hardpoints) and a few even have Bondsman/Clan 'mechs with them... in the 3060s.
Also, again, as I said at many points in this thread:
Clan tech is still the exception. If it's made available, and not restricted,
everyone will have Clan tech in MW:O. IS weapons will never be seen again, along with chassis and stuff.
Before people say "But, I'll still use IS chassis with Clan weapons!" let me remind you: No, you won't. You really won't. This isn't Mech 4 - IS 'mechs have 3 XL crits, 3 slot DHS, etc. Clan 'mechs can run XL and not even be destroyed losing a side torso! It would be outright stupid to run Clan modified IS tech if you had access to both.
Again, I'm OK with exceptions. If they stick with the faction rank thing, having the top 10 players have access to Clan gear would be really cool, IMO. But we MUST not allow it on a wide scale, at all, for the fate of the game.
We're at a crossroads where we can either face really unique battles where the IS is given different advantages such as tonnage to make up for technological shortcomings, or a really stale game where everyone is using the best Clan heavies exclusively.
It's a no brainer solution. PLEASE think about the long-term ramifications before you post folks, instead of "I want Clan tech but I wanna be the goooooood guyyyys" that I think is the overwhelming opinion, followed by people who think their merc unit should be composed primarily of Thors because that's how MechWarrior 4 single player was. It's really bad.
G4ngSt4z, on 31 March 2013 - 05:09 AM, said:
I don't know what is Clan or anything else, I just want new guns and new stuff for my favorite FPS game !!!
Yeah !!
You might think you don't care, but you do. Largely because you don't know how the Clans are.
Effectively all their gear is
better. Flat out better. In 3050 the IS has nothing to compare with it, except numbers/weight. If you got those "new guns and stuff" given to both factions, prepare to throw out every gun you own at that point because it's worthless now.
See the problem? How many FPS release new guns that throw out the entire list of guns that came before in terms of viability? I'm going to guess not many that are considered any good.
Now, I'm all for you getting access to all the new toys. That's why I keep suggesting that profiles should support multiple pilots, so you can bounce between playing with your new 100 ton Clan 'mech and playing with an IS unit. So, for you, you have access to all the new stuff - that's great! But by doing it that way, you will keep the factions split - if you're playing to represent one faction or the other, you'll get a difference experience with each. Instead of the same one with both, which is what will happen the second mixtech gets mentioned.
Edited by Victor Morson, 31 March 2013 - 01:19 PM.
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