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[jozkhan]

ok so I just played a game and asked if anyone knew about this feature and was called a liar, I pointed out that its here on the forums - from the devs - and still wasnt believed and most ppl went right ahead and DC as soon as they died. This isnt common knowledge

Edited by jozkhan, 30 May 2013 - 05:49 AM.

[PhoenixFire55]

Tekadept, on 30 May 2013 - 05:41 AM, said:

When I please with my unit, I care, when i pug after a hard days worka nd have 30mins to kill I do care... luckily I dont care right now as i have enough money and xp, but i can see why people care.. Pretty rough to think people care how you go in a PUG game when there is little to no unit cohesion in our team as a pug.

2 games instead of 4 games in 30 mins after a hard days work is still fun. Watching others play is fun. Only caring about c-bills and exp is no fun. If you want fun after a hard days work I don't see why you care if you do 2 or 4 games.

jozkhan, on 30 May 2013 - 05:48 AM, said:

ok so I just played a game and asked if anyone knew about this feature and was called a liar, I pointed out that its here on the forums - from the devs - and still wasnt believed and most ppl went right ahead and DC as soon as they died. This isnt common knowledge

And so ignorant and non-caring c-bill **ores get penalized. Its a win-win.

[Tekadept]

PhoenixFire55, on 30 May 2013 - 05:54 AM, said:

2 games instead of 4 games in 30 mins after a hard days work is still fun. Watching others play is fun. Only caring about c-bills and exp is no fun. If you want fun after a hard days work I don't see why you care if you do 2 or 4 games.

And so ignorant and non-caring c-bill **ores get penalized. Its a win-win.

I dont care about cbills or XP, I care about MY TIME. I have 70mill cbills and all my mechs mastered. I just would rather do 4 drops then spend 2 drops watchig some scrubbers doing stupid stuff. I do indeed quit because my time is precious, and I dont need the $$ or XP, I was just thinking from a newbies point of view how frustrating it could be.I "used to spectate" but watching people launch LRMS under 180 CONSTANTLY and people not targeting the mech they are shooting to see where its weak just isnt fun. Dont fool yourself into thinking this is a team game when you PUG and you feel you "owe" them to watch.

Edited by Tekadept, 30 May 2013 - 05:59 AM.

[jozkhan]

ok so I asked again in another game and wasnt believed (despite saying it comes from devs and is on forums) and was told it was not their experience... survey over.

wont people just ALT-TAB out and do something that they consider more useful with their time rather than sit and watch what could be a long PUG game they have no stake in?

Personally Im not that bothered either way but I was under the impression if you died and disconnected then you still got the full rewards. What I'm not happy with is that this has never been made clear to players and not only that but that a sample taken from players both here and ingame seems to indicate nobody knows (or even believes it to be the case) - That's a bit wrong.

[Tekadept]

jozkhan, on 30 May 2013 - 06:02 AM, said:

ok so I asked again in another game and wasnt believed (despite saying it comes from devs and is on forums) and was told it was not their experience... survey over.

wont people just ALT-TAB out and do something that they consider more useful with their time rather than sit and watch what could be a long PUG game they have no stake in?

Personally Im not that bothered either way but I was under the impression if you died and disconnected then you still got the full rewards. What I'm not happy with is that this has never been made clear to players and not only that but that a sample taken from players both here and ingame seems to indicate nobody knows (or even believes it to be the case) - That's a bit wrong.

I'm Impressed you even get a response from people. different to my experience when I pug, no response to anything, Hence why I dont care to watch them flounder

[Hayashi]

jozkhan, on 30 May 2013 - 06:02 AM, said:

ok so I asked again in another game and wasnt believed (despite saying it comes from devs and is on forums) and was told it was not their experience... survey over. wont people just ALT-TAB out and do something that they consider more useful with their time rather than sit and watch what could be a long PUG game they have no stake in? Personally Im not that bothered either way but I was under the impression if you died and disconnected then you still got the full rewards. What I'm not happy with is that this has never been made clear to players and not only that but that a sample taken from players both here and ingame seems to indicate nobody knows (or even believes it to be the case) - That's a bit wrong.

People don't seem to believe me either as they're still DCing even after I already note in all-chat that DC zeroes the match rewards.

Now I finally understand the rage threads about people complaining this game is pay to win, that mechs are too expensive, that the grind is too long... the people complaining weren't even earning what they thought they were earning, so it's hardly surprising they'd find the rewards insufficient.

[Tekadept]

Hayashi, on 30 May 2013 - 06:12 AM, said:

People don't seem to believe me either as they're still DCing even after I already note in all-chat that DC zeroes the match rewards.

Don't they know you are a volunteer moderator ??

[PhoenixFire55]

Tekadept, on 30 May 2013 - 05:58 AM, said:

I dont care about cbills or XP, I care about MY TIME. I have 70mill cbills and all my mechs mastered. I just would rather do 4 drops then spend 2 drops watchig some scrubbers doing stupid stuff. I do indeed quit because my time is precious, and I dont need the $$ or XP, I was just thinking from a newbies point of view how frustrating it could be.I "used to spectate" but watching people launch LRMS under 180 CONSTANTLY and people not targeting the mech they are shooting to see where its weak just isnt fun. Dont fool yourself into thinking this is a team game when you PUG and you feel you "owe" them to watch.

Feel free to rage about matchmaker via SUPPORT TICKET to PGI. Apart from that, Alt+Tab and play minesweeper if you can't stand watching noobs play and don't waste OUR time saying that you care when you don't. There are lots of games around, if you can't wait when other members of your team are done playing the game how THEY want it - the door is always open.

[Hayashi]

Tekadept, on 30 May 2013 - 06:14 AM, said:

Don't they know you are a volunteer moderator ??

Only good that seems to do ingame is to make me primary target all the time, all the games. People still don't listen to advice.

[Dawnstealer]

Niko Snow, on 29 May 2013 - 07:46 PM, said:

You will only receive rewards obtained before you disconnected. To earn match rewards, you must observe the match.

This is an AWESOME change. I was getting real tired of being on the short end of 7-on-8 or even 5 or 6-on-8 matches because some farmer would disconnect at match start. If they don't get anything for it, that's a terrific patch.

[Dude42]

Dawnstealer, on 30 May 2013 - 06:34 AM, said:

This is an AWESOME change. I was getting real tired of being on the short end of 7-on-8 or even 5 or 6-on-8 matches because some farmer would disconnect at match start. If they don't get anything for it, that's a terrific patch.

http://mwomercs.com/...ng-a-game-drop/

[Dan Nashe]

It sounds like you only miss out on salvage and conquest resource rewards? Not actually a big deal. Kills and assists are enough for me!
Either way, I need 13 more wins for this challenge, so xp and cbills be darned! I need to get in 52 matches before bed! (Or stop levelling my atlases. I'm an awful atlas pilot, and my jump sniping highlander has ridiculously inflated my assault Elo).

Fortunately I also have several books to read if I hang aroundafter the challenge is over.

I don't think the people who never appear on the scoreboard get anything. Those have been the reason for most of my short handed games. And from my four man queues, disconnects (legitimate) seem to be up. Every patch we lose a player to fps or connection issues. Getting used to it. :-). It really is the nature of pc gaming. Every change is nerve wracking.

Edited by DanNashe, 30 May 2013 - 06:43 AM.

[Koniving]

With premium I barely noticed the loss of earnings although sometimes members of the premades I'm in will mention we win... and my cash doesn't go up by the usual 300,000+ I would normally earn if I were still sitting in the game.
(I don't always do well, but when I do, I get paid like a king.)

Now, I suppose the best thing to do is when you go into a match just spread the world or say "Check new player help and 'Change DC Crediting' thread." Get the word spread! Spread the word! Save the little new guys so that they can earn money; we always insist they need to sit and watch other skilled players to pick up tricks anyway, right?

Edited by Koniving, 30 May 2013 - 06:46 AM.

[Darwins Dog]

This is a bad change if you ask me. I understand why it was implemented, but there are too many situations in this game where there is no reason to stick around.

I had a fight last night where a player on our team DCd at the start. When the fight was over there were three assault mechs left on the enemy team, and I didn't want to wait around for the enemies to lumber across the entire map to kill the one remaining mech (it was alpine and the fight finished near the enemy base). I will watch the last man go down fighting, but I don't want to watch a hopeless situation like the one above.

[Red Line Pilot]

With my average earnings of ~85.000 / game 25.000 more or less is a lot. Apparently i've been missing out on 30% more earnings in most of my matches :'(

I tend to die a lot < 1 K/D ratio

[Tekadept]

Koniving, on 30 May 2013 - 06:40 AM, said:

Now, I suppose the best thing to do is when you go into a match just spread the world or say "Check new player help and 'Change DC Crediting' thread." Get the word spread.

True, but should it really be up to us?? really??

[Koniving]

Tekadept, on 30 May 2013 - 06:46 AM, said:

True, but should it really be up to us?? really??

I get the feeling it will ~now~ be mentioned in the next patch note. Though something similar was mentioned in the past with slightly different wording that basically said it was okay to drop out of the match ~if~ we were detected as actually having fought and participated in the battle, since our mech would be locked away anyway to prevent farming with it.

But I digress, this is my Mechbay.


I don't seem to have much trouble with having a mech locked away for the duration of a match. *Scratches head.* I can't fathom why.

[Red Line Pilot]

This is still BETA. PGI is testing out game play concepts, reward systems etc still. This one apparently doesn't work for most players. Let this be a good feedback thread for a game in BETA. That is why we are posting here.
Going on a rampage to let everyone know asap doesn't seem appropriate to me.

[Tekadept]

Red Line Pilot, on 30 May 2013 - 06:53 AM, said:

This is still BETA. PGI is testing out game play concepts, reward systems etc still. This one apparently doesn't work for most players. Let this be a good feedback thread for a game in BETA. That is why we are posting here.
Going on a rampage to let everyone know asap doesn't seem appropriate to me.

You get the prize for the first "It's Beta" argument to cover poor documentation.. You win good sir. (Correct me if i missing another winner)

[jozkhan]

Sorry but is letting the rest of the player base know how things actually work (as most seem to be playing under the wrong impression from what has been gathered so far in this thread) how is that 'going on the rampage to let everyone know'?

Why is letting the player base know how things are 'not appropriate'?