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[flichtshooter]

so i started playing MWO yesterday and got myself a CPLT-C4 and modifiyed it but now i am really low on CBills so i tought il just play somme more games becuas before i earnd like +-400k CBills a game becuas of some bonus but now i just get like 96k CBils or even 42KCBills but i mainly use the 2 LRM20 an the 2 LRM 5 rocket pods on my mech and i realy want to get a new mech wich is more based on closer range so i am here to ask if anyone has any tips to earn more Cbills

[SjurWarEagle]

The trick of making money is making much damage and many kills.
In order to be able to do so, keep alive as long als you can.
Don't throw yourself into the battle with an open CT or things like this. Stay in the back and launch your rockets.
90-110k is absolutely normal for an average game.

[Aym]

Well you can always buy MC and get Premium time, it's about $12 a month and gets you 50% more c-bills and experience... plus you'll probably need more mechbays once you start earning the c-bills..

[Duncan Longwood]

The fastest way to earn increased cbills is by getting a 30% bonus from a hero mech or by getting the 50% bonus from premium time.

Kills and Assists are key to making money. You can also make additional cbills by spotting targets for your team or painting targets with a tag laser.

[flichtshooter]

i am trying to stay back most of the time but the enemys flank me or walk around the group of my team and kill me and when i try to fire my lrm20 form up close they are worthless becuas the misiles dont do any damage then i ams tuck with 2 medium lazers vs 2 or more enemys

Duncan Longwood, on 04 April 2013 - 08:22 AM, said:

The fastest way to earn increased cbills is by getting a 30% bonus from a hero mech or by getting the 50% bonus from premium time.

Kills and Assists are key to making money. You can also make additional cbills by spotting targets for your team or painting targets with a tag laser.

well il probebly will need to have enouch CBills to buy me a hero mech then and since i am like earning below 100k CBills per match i will have to play for a long time

[Nakamura Takeshi]

Find a guild/house/unit and group with them (using teamspeak) will also increase how often you should win games and get more c-bills. Finding people you are familiar with and being able to chat (instead of typing) also helps reaction time and general communication. Also use the training grounds to get familiar with your 'mech, learn the weak points (hit boxes as well), and try different build for better results (I use http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/ on my own to build a 'mech or use ideas for forums threads about your particular 'mech to get ideas).

[Cycleboy]

You aren't in a drop group then? You PUG? I do this too. The first thing you'll need to learn is the maps... very well. You are a distance shooter. You have to stay back, but you also have to circle to keep members of your team that are brawlers between you and the enemy. An LRM boat too far back invites a strike force to quickly knock it out, which is what is happening to you. Play more. You'll learn.

[flichtshooter]

Nakamura Takeshi, on 04 April 2013 - 08:28 AM, said:

Find a guild/house/unit and group with them (using teamspeak) will also increase how often you should win games and get more c-bills. Finding people you are familiar with and being able to chat (instead of typing) also helps reaction time and general communication. Also use the training grounds to get familiar with your 'mech, learn the weak points (hit boxes as well), and try different build for better results (I use http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/ on my own to build a 'mech or use ideas for forums threads about your particular 'mech to get ideas).

where can i find myself a guild/unit then

[Ratnix]

flichtshooter, on 04 April 2013 - 08:27 AM, said:

i am trying to stay back most of the time but the enemys flank me or walk around the group of my team and kill me and when i try to fire my lrm20 form up close they are worthless becuas the misiles dont do any damage then i ams tuck with 2 medium lazers vs 2 or more enemys


well il probebly will need to have enouch CBills to buy me a hero mech then and since i am like earning below 100k CBills per match i will have to play for a long time

Hero mechs are bought with MC, which is bought with RL money. Premium time, which is also purchased with MC's, combined with a Hero Mech will give you the most bonus cbills.

On top of those two you will want to learn to do as much damage as possible and hopefully be on a winning team. Getting kills helps but I have actually gotten more cbills with 0 kills while doing lots of damage and getting lots of kill assists.

[flichtshooter]

well i am not actualy able to pay with RL money but an atlas isnt that a hero mech to ?

[Redshift2k5]

flichtshooter, on 04 April 2013 - 09:00 AM, said:

well i am not actualy able to pay with RL money but an atlas isnt that a hero mech to ?

No, an Atlas is not a Hero Mech. Hero Mechs are specific fancy variants with unique name, unique camo pattern, unique hardpoint layout, and they cost . This is a list of Hero Mechs http://mwomercs.com/...attlemechs/hero Hero mechs cost money, and they're not cheap. Premium time gives you +50% C-bills but Premium time also costs

The best way to get C-bills is to "Kill Things / Don't Die" score as many kills, assists, and damage as you can. Stay out of trouble. Stick to your team. Communicate.

[Koniving]

flichtshooter, on 04 April 2013 - 08:13 AM, said:

so i started playing MWO yesterday and got myself a CPLT-C4 and modifiyed it but now i am really low on CBills so i tought il just play somme more games becuas before i earnd like +-400k CBills a game becuas of some bonus but now i just get like 96k CBils or even 42KCBills but i mainly use the 2 LRM20 an the 2 LRM 5 rocket pods on my mech and i realy want to get a new mech wich is more based on closer range so i am here to ask if anyone has any tips to earn more Cbills

There are a number of ways to make money. First and foremost there is more money to be made in Assault than in Conquest unless you have a light mech. Since you have LRM 15 racks, I'm pretty sure you do not have a fast a mech.

You can choose the game mode by using the mode select button. Next to the launch button is a silhouette of a mech. White on an orange button. Click that, choose Assault. Kills and assists pay out a lot more on assault.

Next, you can guarantee an income by doing some damage to every target, that way when they are killed you make kill assist bonuses. You actually make more money by NOT getting the kill. A difference of 2,500 . If you just do damage you're going to get just the kill assist. If you do damage right before the enemy dies, you may get a savior kill, which gives you an additional 7,500 . If you do it while the enemy is trying to steal your base, you'll get a defense kill which is another 7,500. And these stack.

So let's say you and a team mate are fighting off an enemy in your base. Your teammate is badly hurt. He gets the kill but you did damage within the past 10 seconds. You get the kill assist 7,500 , plus a savior kill bonus for 7,500 , plus a defense kill bonus for another 7,500 . That's 22,500 for one enemy.

He (your teammate who got the kill) on the other hand only gets 20,500. Why? Because kills on assault pay out 5,000, even though he gets all the other bonuses.

Now let's say you made it a point to destroy dark red components that have no armor. That's an additional 2,500 for each limb you take off.

So let's go back to the example and add more to it. Your enemy was a splat cat (A1, 6*SRM-6), which while someone was fighting a you shot off both of its arms before your teammate kills it. The launchers are easy to take out because splatcats keep their doors open. That's 2,500 per arm (*2) = 5,000 + the 22,500 = 27,500 for one enemy dead.

Now you have LRMs? Time for MOAR MONEH! Bring a tag. Point at the splatcat from our example, and fire missiles from 200 meters while holding the TAG laser on him. Bam, you just gave yourself a tag bonus. Might be only once per enemy, per teammate (including yourself) that hits it, but at least that's another 2,500 . So far on one enemy under these conditions you just made 30,000 on one enemy.

Now below is a picture of a recent score. I have a hero mech, but only killed one enemy and just peppered targets. I got savior kill assists, no defense kills, and this was conquest where it pays less. I do not have a premium account. With premium it would have been 345,009 . Had I been playing on assault with the same circumstances I would have made ... Time for math.


First we convert the kill assists. 26,250 / 7 kill assists = 3750 per kill assist. Now let's turn that to assault's kill assists. 7 kill assists times 7,500 = 52,500. All it takes for a kill assist is a single machine gun shot. You can even get a kill assist for ramming.

We subtract the resource bonus of 25,300. This with the previous brings us to 230,956. So it comes out to about the same, if the conquest team did some capping which they usually don't.

Now I had a hero mech. So figure that to come out to about 161,669 (take original amount and divide by 30%)

But let's say each of those kill assists were also defense bonuses. So the non-premium, non-hero cashflow of 161,669 plus the kill assists as defense bonuses come out to 214,169 if the kill assists were also defense bonuses. As it turns out only 6 kills were savior bonuses. So there was even more money to be made. Also no tag, so no bonuses there.

But yesh. MONEHS! Now go make some!

Edited by Koniving, 04 April 2013 - 11:03 AM.

[Mechteric]

flichtshooter, on 04 April 2013 - 08:13 AM, said:

so i started playing MWO yesterday and got myself a CPLT-C4 ... i realy want to get a new mech wich is more based on closer range so i am here to ask if anyone has any tips to earn more Cbills

Close range mechs also are for most easier to get more points in as well compared with LRMs. But you can make a very effective close range mech with your C4. Try 4 SRM6's and 2 mediums lasers, its pretty sweet on a C4.

[flichtshooter]

well last games i played mostly gone like this: i find myself a good spot to launch LRM s from but nothing gets spotted long enough to keep the lock son the misiles can hit and then they try to flank the asselt mech and come from the side or infront of me wich and then most times there is a guy with a heavly armoured mech or just 2 AC/20 s and just destroys me becuas they get up to close to me and if i try to flee to my team or the rest of it somtimes 2 others left they stay shooting at me even if my team is an eazyer hit then the rest get anayelated to so i get like 1 assit and 2 traget spots

[Aym]

flichtshooter, on 05 April 2013 - 04:25 AM, said:

well last games i played mostly gone like this: i find myself a good spot to launch LRM s from but nothing gets spotted long enough to keep the lock son the misiles can hit and then they try to flank the asselt mech and come from the side or infront of me wich and then most times there is a guy with a heavly armoured mech or just 2 AC/20 s and just destroys me becuas they get up to close to me and if i try to flee to my team or the rest of it somtimes 2 others left they stay shooting at me even if my team is an eazyer hit then the rest get anayelated to so i get like 1 assit and 2 traget spots

The best spot to fire LRM's from is usually 150 meters behind the biggest mech on your team. Give or take for some situations for terrain or the big mech being dumb and a coward and sitting too far back and trying to use LRMs when you're a better vehicle for that.

[Kargarok]

Also, Ayn, try equipping a TAG in your missile boat. It'll be taugh since it'll be torso mounted on the C4, but it will not only help guid your own missiles but you get a bonus when other folks hit your tagged target. I'm not sure if they have to hit it with missiles or just hit it but still helps.

Once you get better aim you could always try blowing off legs and arms as well as you get bonuses for component destruction as well.

But as everyone has said already the fastes way to grind up cbills, sans hero mechs, is to group up with friends and drop together.

[Aym]

Yeah I think Kon mentioned tag because I think you get the tag bonus for self-tagging...

[El Death Smurf]

i payed MC for my first 3 mechs (2 catapults and a cataphract), and i now have earned and fully upgraded 15 more mechs (3 stalkers, 3 ravens, 3 trebuchets, 3 jagermechs, and 2 Cataphracts)
when im grinding for more c-bills these are some great ways depending on the mech and youre role.
1) throw on TAG if you can, it leads to assists, TAG/narc assists, and Spotting assists.
2) get all the assists you can. have 1 Large or ER large laser on your mech so you can make sure you shoot each enemy altealst once to get in on the action. a single lrm5 could give you the same effect, so that you can get in on a kill beofre it goes down if you are far away.
3) follow the triangles. look for targets that are already targets, you only get kill assists if the guy you shot dies. so help shoot someone yoru team is already working on.
4) destroy components. feel free to go for high priority components, and especially components stripped of armor. things like hunchback right torsos, atals right torsos, stalker torsos, cataphract right torsos, centurion right arms. Light mech legs. anything that will cripple a mech, and get those magic 2x component damage. an Atlas can sometimes have 1/2 the armor in its side torsos as it does in the CT. if i have a team that is compitent, i can blow off a mechs side, and then move on to a different target while they finish off the bleeding animal.
4.5) to help with #4 try the target info gathering module. i really like it for quickly seeing the weak spot in the enemys armor.
5) use missles. thay have high damage output, so they can net a good amount of c-bills for all the damage you do.
6) or, contray to 4-5, focus your fire. the less component damage you do to a mech, the more your salvage bonus will be. legging and cockpit shots will get you the most, since the only 3 ways to kill mechs are 1)both legs 2)cockpit 3) engine, and the engine is usually the most expensive part of a mech.
7) be a team player stick with a buddy, and share targets. remember, no kill, no kill assist. the quicker the kill, the quicker the win. only a win gets you salvage, and salavge makes the biggest difference in win earnings vs loss earnings.
8) dont cap the enemy unless you cant win the fight. if it's come to a 1v3 and your are the 1 and in bad shape, the cap is respectable. and dont cap unless there are atleast 5 kills, otherwise you wasted everyone's time and you all lose.
9) stay alive. use hit and run tactics. dont just run in there all Leroy Jenkins, shooting every enemy once hoping to get 8 assists. you are only an asset to your team if you are alive. the longer you live the more damage you do, and the more you contribute. this goes especially for brawlers. i know you want to get into the sweet spot with your SRMs and ac20 and Medium lasers, but be patient. when the fight gets to the 4v4 stage, if you are in good shape, you can win the game for your team.

Edited by El Death Smurf, 05 April 2013 - 07:09 AM.

[Phoenix Gray]

flichtshooter, on 05 April 2013 - 04:25 AM, said:

well last games i played mostly gone like this: i find myself a good spot to launch LRM s from but nothing gets spotted long enough to keep the lock son the misiles can hit and then they try to flank the asselt mech and come from the side or infront of me wich and then most times there is a guy with a heavly armoured mech or just 2 AC/20 s and just destroys me becuas they get up to close to me and if i try to flee to my team or the rest of it somtimes 2 others left they stay shooting at me even if my team is an eazyer hit then the rest get anayelated to so i get like 1 assit and 2 traget spots

Put TAG on your Mech and you can spot for yourself. You have to give up a laser but your mech is not designed to fight close anyway,

[INAPPROPRIATE BEHAVIOR]

I have been running a light and have 360 target retention. Keep a look out for targets besides the one in front of you. If you get focussed on 1 target you could miss an easy kill or assist.

Good luck

Dire Cat