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[Rhetorical]

Nice idea but they should make the xp bonus a gxp, then it may be worth the money.

Edited by Rhetorical, 04 April 2013 - 09:13 AM.

[Stone Profit]

Rhetorical, on 04 April 2013 - 09:12 AM, said:

Nice idea but they should make the xp bonus a gxp, then it may be worth the money.

You dont even know how much it will cost, how can you make a judgement on its worth?

[Tennex]

people have wanted to have cbill bonuses on regular variants for a while now. i just hope that the bonus is reasonable.

15-20% Cbill bonus is fair.

but it all comes down to MC price.


nobody will buy these mechs if all they have are XP bonuses.

Edited by Tennex, 04 April 2013 - 09:26 AM.

[Stone Profit]

Tennex, on 04 April 2013 - 09:24 AM, said:

people have wanted to have cbill bonuses on regular variants for a while now. i just hope that the bonus is reasonable.

15-20% is fair.

but it all comes down to MC price

Nah, itll be 5%. But cheaper than a regular mc cost of that same mech.

Champion BattleMechs

We’ve decided to add a new style of Hero BattleMech, one that represents the community – the Champion. Similar in nature to the Founder's BattleMechs, a Champion `Mech is based of an existing variant with a special permanent 5% XP boost and lower price point. Our first Champion BattleMech will be revealed on April 12th.

Edit: I cant believe I agreed with Tennex and didnt burst into flames...

Edited by Stone Profit, 04 April 2013 - 09:26 AM.

[Tennex]

Stone Profit, on 04 April 2013 - 09:26 AM, said:

Nah, itll be 5%. But cheaper than a regular mc cost of that same mech.

Champion BattleMechs

We’ve decided to add a new style of Hero BattleMech, one that represents the community – the Champion. Similar in nature to the Founder's BattleMechs, a Champion `Mech is based of an existing variant with a special permanent 5% XP boost and lower price point. Our first Champion BattleMech will be revealed on April 12th.

ah thought it meant the MC price will be lower than similar hero mechs.

[jay35]

The MC cost being lower than the stock variant it replaces is likely to create a reason for someone who already owns the stock variant to now buy the Champion version of it. In fact, my guess is you will only get the option to buy the Champion version if you first own the regular stock version.

As long as it's identical to the variant it replaces aside from adding the XP boost modifier, (so we're still able to customize the camo, colors, loadout, etc), it could be interesting. I suppose the goal would be to replace all of one's stock variants with the Champion equivalents. That's a genius revenue scheme. I like it.

Edited by jay35, 04 April 2013 - 09:28 AM.

[Stone Profit]

Tennex, on 04 April 2013 - 09:26 AM, said:

ah thought it meant the MC price will be lower than similar hero mechs.

I dont believe so, as Heros are for making money, whereas this is for helping reduce the xp grind. Honestly Im surprised anyone would want this, but hey to each their own. I burn through leveling my mechs but that may be just me. I dont need XP the way I need cbills, so I wont be purchasing, but Im glad theyre doing it for the people who want it.

[Tennex]

jay35, on 04 April 2013 - 09:26 AM, said:

The MC cost being lower than the stock variant it replaces is likely to create a reason for someone who already owns the stock variant to now buy the Champion version of it. In fact, my guess is you will only get the option to buy the Champion version if you first own the regular stock version.

As long as it's identical to the variant it replaces aside from adding the XP boost modifier, (so we're still able to customize the camo, colors, loadout, etc), it could be interesting. I suppose the goal would be to replace all of one's stock variants with the Champion equivalents. That's a genius revenue scheme. I like it.

why would you need another Champion mech of the same variant with the XP bonus. if you already have it, chances are you have the pilot trees filled.

[Roadbeer]

Wow, all 4 of us on the same page in a discussion.

I look at it like, do you want the CBill bonus of the Hero, or the XP bonus of the Champion?

I approve of this form of monetizing the game.

[LordBraxton]

If it gives an xp bonus but no cbill bonus what is the point?

XP is easy to get, Cbills are always needed.

[Roadbeer]

LordBraxton, on 04 April 2013 - 09:34 AM, said:

If it gives an xp bonus but no cbill bonus what is the point?

XP is easy to get, Cbills are always needed.

I'm sitting on 60 mil right now, with not a lot more in the game at this point that I really want to buy. But if more consumables are to come, I need more GXP to unlock. Makes sense to me.

[Dnarvel]

I would like the 5% XP bonus to a variant I play all the time.. this will help with XP/GXP (including converting XP to GXP) so I can unlock modules as they come out, and to help speed up less desirable mechs. Yes, the extra XP might get people to buy MC to convert to GXP (if GXP is not affected byt he 5% increase), but I am in favour of this method. Almost like a win-win for everyone.

[LordBraxton]

Roadbeer, on 04 April 2013 - 09:35 AM, said:

I'm sitting on 60 mil right now, with not a lot more in the game at this point that I really want to buy. But if more consumables are to come, I need more GXP to unlock. Makes sense to me.

5% extra GXP per match, even if it effects GXP... is pathetic.

Unless you can buy them for cbills as well?

[jay35]

Tennex, on 04 April 2013 - 09:30 AM, said:

why would you need another Champion mech of the same variant with the XP bonus. if you already have it, chances are you have the pilot trees filled.

I would (ideally, over time) replace every single standard variant mech I own with one that is identical other than including a significant boost to the XP it earns. It's simply better, with no downside other than having an upfront cost associated with it. Why wouldn't you want it?

Example of how I imagine it working:

You have an Atlas D-DC. That runs 4,195MC or roughly 10.5m c-bills.
You bought it for c-bills, great.
Now they're going to offer you a D-DC "Champion" model that is identical to your D-DC other than it earns an extra 5% XP over the normal version. It costs you, say, 3,500MC to purchase it, and you can only purchase it if you already own an Atlas D-DC.

The Atlas might be a poor example because it's near the upper end of the price scale, but think about a Raven or a Jenner that is identical to your favorite Raven or Jenner, but you can gain 50% better XP than it usually delivers per match. I think a lot of folks would buy it.

LordBraxton, on 04 April 2013 - 09:38 AM, said:

5% extra GXP per match, even if it effects GXP... is pathetic.

Unless you can buy them for cbills as well?

If the stock earn rate is 10%, and this adds 5% to that, it's an effective 50% boost to the XP earned in a given match. If that's the case, it's perfect.

If an additional 5% equates to 50% better XP earnings, it's probably worth it.

Edited by jay35, 04 April 2013 - 09:44 AM.

[warner2]

jay35, on 04 April 2013 - 09:26 AM, said:

The MC cost being lower than the stock variant it replaces is likely to create a reason for someone who already owns the stock variant to now buy the Champion version of it. In fact, my guess is you will only get the option to buy the Champion version if you first own the regular stock version.

I read that as Champion mechs being cheaper than Hero mechs. It would seem odd that a Champion K2 would be cheaper to buy with MC than a vanilla K2. Who would ever buy a vanilla K2 ever again?

I thought the basic premise of a Champion mech is a it's a Hero Mech Lite. Still an MC only mech, still some rewards (although a really pointless 5% boost in XP, give us CBills!), and costs less MC than a Hero.

[Roadbeer]

LordBraxton, on 04 April 2013 - 09:38 AM, said:

5% extra GXP per match, even if it effects GXP... is pathetic.

Unless you can buy them for cbills as well?

Just as pathetic as stockpiling CBills to make my Epeen look HUGE?

It's a value added bonus. If' it's worth it to you, buy it, if not, go with a Hero, or just grind it all out naturally. Why so resistant?

[jay35]

warner2, on 04 April 2013 - 09:42 AM, said:

I read that as Champion mechs being cheaper than Hero mechs. It would seem odd that a Champion K2 would be cheaper to buy with MC than a vanilla K2. Who would ever buy a vanilla K2 ever again?

I thought the basic premise of a Champion mech is a it's a Hero Mech Lite. Still an MC only mech, still some rewards (although a really pointless 5% boost in XP, give us CBills!), and costs less MC than a Hero.

Oh. Hmm. I guess we'll have to wait to see how it plays out. There's definitely huge potential if they do something appealing with this concept. We'll see....

[Texas Merc]

unique camo pattern would be cool too

[Stone Profit]

warner2, on 04 April 2013 - 09:42 AM, said:

I read that as Champion mechs being cheaper than Hero mechs. It would seem odd that a Champion K2 would be cheaper to buy with MC than a vanilla K2. Who would ever buy a vanilla K2 ever again?

I thought the basic premise of a Champion mech is a it's a Hero Mech Lite. Still an MC only mech, still some rewards (although a really pointless 5% boost in XP, give us CBills!), and costs less MC than a Hero.

People who dont wanna spend money on mechs. I dont buy non heros with MC, I use my cbills for that.

[Vasces Diablo]

People have been asking for the ability to "hero-ize" mechs they have mastered. I was hoping it would be something like that instead of a straight mech purchase. I would happily pay a few MC to make my Stalker a champion. I like playing it even though its mastered and a little extra Cbill action would be nice for modules and what not.