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[Roadbeer]

Hellen Wheels, on 05 April 2013 - 12:36 PM, said:

Yeah, its a Beta <rolls eyes> so here are my results from todays post-hot-fix-to-enable-more-money by PGI:

game 1: transparent minimap bug (no radar)
game 2: timer at top of HUD stated, "01:Undefined" entire match
game 3: minimap shows grid over a black square, but no terrain nor any friendlies. Pressing "b" for expanded minimap results in an expanded black, opaque area overlaid with grid but no radar sigs
game 4: only low FPS
game 5: only low FPS
game 6: mech is named "WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW" on HUD
game 7: only low FPS, but when I was testing something, I was summarily told that the game is not a BETA, apparently by someone who thought that I shouldn't be testing anything, not knowing that MWO calls it a BETA. Unfortunately, I forgot to <hug> PurpleFluffyBunny for allowing me to complete my test, when I was shut down.
game 8: only low FPS, but the Deutscher had to be reminded...its a BETA, verstehen Sie?
game 9: low FPS and the arty strike, so lovingly and carefully placed downrange about 800 meters, wound up hitting on my own position
game 10: what's the use? none of this will matter one whit to IGP/PGI unless it involves $.

Enjoy the "Beta Test"! <rolls eyes>

I see what you did there... I'm no stranger to sarcasm.

[Oinkage]

On these forums, buckets full of tears are frequently viewed as the correct response to any logical argument. I consider my post a success if it evokes thought or tears. It means I have successfully conveyed my thoughts to both the rational and irrational forum dwellers.

Good day to you.

[Shismar]

Of course it is not a Beta. It is a released game. Developers have been taking advantage of the permanent "in development" nature of MOs for quite some time now. Since it is easy and inexpensive to update the game, practically any state of development can be used to release the game. Question is just if the players accept an unfinished game on the promise of future improvements or not.

In the case of MWO, the beta label is just a sad excuse for slow development. I am not expecting anything any more from this game.

[Roadbeer]

Shismar, on 05 April 2013 - 12:47 PM, said:

Of course it is not a Beta. It is a released game. Developers have been taking advantage of the permanent "in development" nature of MOs for quite some time now. Since it is easy and inexpensive to update the game, practically any state of development can be used to release the game. Question is just if the players accept an unfinished game on the promise of future improvements or not.

In the case of MWO, the beta label is just a sad excuse for slow development. I am not expecting anything any more from this game.

And yet you're still here?
You must love it, and anything on top is just a cherry and whipcream... and sprinkles, oh and those gummy things. Gotta have those gummy things.

[Hellen Wheels]

Oinkage, on 05 April 2013 - 12:41 PM, said:

Remember, no one is forcing you to play Hellen. You can leave any time you want.

Your statement, while technically correct, has exactly NOTHING to do with the topic at hand, and in fact is just another straw man argument foisted to deflect attention from the matter at hand. Thanks for the input anyway.

Edited by Hellen Wheels, 05 April 2013 - 01:02 PM.

[BlackWidow]

Hellen Wheels, on 05 April 2013 - 12:59 PM, said:

Your statement, while technically correct, has exactly NOTHING to do with the topic at hand, and in fact is just another straw man argument foisted to deflect attention from the matter at hand. Thanks for the input anyway.

Ok, it's been so long since OP, what in your mind is the matter at hand? Because I'm pretty sure I can dispell it in 25 words or less. Well not really, I'm a long winded sot.

[Shismar]

Roadbeer, on 05 April 2013 - 12:50 PM, said:

And yet you're still here?
You must love it, and anything on top is just a cherry and whipcream... and sprinkles, oh and those gummy things. Gotta have those gummy things.

No, I am not "still here". I just check in every week to see if the game has some of the content yet that I thought I paid for. Guess what, it still does not.

I got my money out of the game since August. The premium time was used well too since release in October and I only have like 1500 MC left. No hard feelings. Nice game but I am done for now.

[Tickdoff Tank]

Shismar, on 05 April 2013 - 02:10 PM, said:

No, I am not "still here". I just check in every week to see if the game has some of the content yet that I thought I paid for. Guess what, it still does not.

I got my money out of the game since August. The premium time was used well too since release in October and I only have like 1500 MC left. No hard feelings. Nice game but I am done for now.

Bye. Doubt you will be missed. Or did you expect anyone to care?

[Hellen Wheels]

BlackWidow, on 05 April 2013 - 01:36 PM, said:

Ok, it's been so long since OP, what in your mind is the matter at hand? Because I'm pretty sure I can dispell it in 25 words or less. Well not really, I'm a long winded sot.

Pro: not Beta. Con: Beta. I'm all eyes. Impress me.

While you're at it, if you are pro "this is just a Beta", please post your last 10 beta testing results.

I did. So can you. Unless it isn't really a "Beta."

Edited by Hellen Wheels, 05 April 2013 - 02:20 PM.

[Shismar]

Tickdoff Tank, on 05 April 2013 - 02:16 PM, said:

Bye. Doubt you will be missed. Or did you expect anyone to care?

PGI does. Lost sales and stuff.

Have fun but don't complain if the matchmaker puts you in bad and unbalanced groups ...

[Odins Fist]

jakucha, on 04 April 2013 - 01:53 PM, said:

Not quite. It was an example you presented that made no sense.

Wrong... Try again

[Country Gravy]

Sometime during a really good match, I have full release.

Does that mean this isn't a beta?

[Ryvucz]

Sifright, on 04 April 2013 - 11:15 PM, said:

naw it's a released alpha bro.

when product goes to market it doesn't matter what devs call it any more.

product is in the market and will be judged in its current state.

Is the game being aggressively marketed? yes?

is the game in a good state? no?

Does it matter what it's designated as under these conditions? No.

Is the beta tag shielding it from legitimate criticism and reviews? Yes.

Will this stop new players drawn in by the advertising getting frustrated with bugs and not being able to play due to them and quitting? No.

End of story. It is that simple.

A game is whatever the developers claim it is.

They say it is Beta, it's Beta.

Don't be mad.

[Hellen Wheels]

Ryvucz, on 05 April 2013 - 03:40 PM, said:

A game is whatever the developers claim it is.

They say it is Beta, it's Beta.

Don't be mad.

By the same logic, the game is whatever *I* claim it is: FAIL.

Don't be mad.

Edited by Hellen Wheels, 05 April 2013 - 03:47 PM.

[Ryvucz]

Hellen Wheels, on 05 April 2013 - 03:47 PM, said:

By the same logic, the game is whatever *I* claim it is: FAIL.

Don't be mad.

I'd rather you not claiming it to be a circus.

Its what the developers claim it is.

Don't be mad.

[KingDerp]

If PGI said it was a circus at least I could understand why they have employed so many clowns...

[Psikez]

The ad hominem begins...down down to k-town...down down to k-town...muahahaha

Everyone knows general discussion is just beta for k-town threads

[Hekalite]

Hellen Wheels, on 05 April 2013 - 02:17 PM, said:

Pro: not Beta. Con: Beta. I'm all eyes. Impress me.

While you're at it, if you are pro "this is just a Beta", please post your last 10 beta testing results.

I did. So can you. Unless it isn't really a "Beta."

Since Tuesday's patch, I have played 14 games. I had one game with no minimap and two mid game crashes. Every other game was essentially bug free. While that's not great, it's hardly as bad as your posted experience. If it's really that bad for you, it's due to something on your end , which may be hardware that doesn't play nice with their code yet.

[Ryvucz]

Buddahcjcc, on 05 April 2013 - 04:31 PM, said:

ah to then its a AAA game?

Yep

If they claimed it sucked and was pay to win, then by gawd it would suck and be pay to win.

Don't be mad.

[Ryvucz]

Buddahcjcc, on 05 April 2013 - 04:36 PM, said:

nice troll
AAA this game AINT by any means and you know it lol

c'mon, you can admit it, dont be mad bro

some how that reminds me of

Did you just call me insane?

I can't tell. '(^.^)'

Don't be mad. =D