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[Thunder Lips Express]

ArchAngelWC, on 04 April 2013 - 04:36 PM, said:

Mechcommander- Rules admin/Planetary admin (for referance Planetary is community warfare)
Mechcommander 2- Head admin worked directly with Microsoft's liason till they completely shafted the game
Mechwarrior 3/4 Rules/Planetary admin....

but the gist of my argument is PGI is not building a game..they are building a cashcow disguised as a game...and that kinda annoys me since I don't mind dropping in some cash..but I do mind when they don't make the game any better..in fact they have continued to compound issues they already have instead of fixing them...and then add new pay content on a semi-regular basis....but yah...if you "ppl" are willing to accept this game in the state it is and with how PGI is developing it...your welcome to it...what i'm saying is for us ppl who want a game that works instead of a shiney new premium mech... its kinda a joke..

well i like this cash cow, stop picking on my cash cow and those who make it.

[Davers]

MischiefSC, on 04 April 2013 - 05:16 PM, said:

If you have an opinion on something express that opinion on its own merits. If the opinion can not stand on its own merit than the opinion is going to get dismissed accordingly. Attempting to borrow an authority or credibility that nobody who isn't either an original FASA developer, involved in Microsofts ownership of the IP or a legal license holder has just damages the basis of your complaints.

"Of course it does not apply to me. I am the soul of honor, kindness, mercy, and goodness. Trust me in all things." -Corwin of Amber

[One Medic Army]

Zeno Scarborough, on 04 April 2013 - 05:29 PM, said:

Y'all ****** need to remain vigilant and keep them on their toes, otherwise if you don't care in the first place, you'd just be sitting on the sidelines waiting for Star Citizen, amirite?

Who says I'm not doing that too? Seriously this blog post gave my inner optimizer a stat-gasm.

I just think that anyone who comes in here whining about things being ruined, without having any specifics nor suggestions can (Get The F Out) and stay out.
You don't like the direction the game is heading? Post specifics, arguments. Get people to agree with them. FFS we've already gotten the devs to change course several times based on player feedback.

Edited by One Medic Army, 04 April 2013 - 05:40 PM.

[BoydofZINJ]

So without PGI there would be no MechWarrior or Battletech video game, and has not been any in creation for over a decade or so.... and that is better than this?

Edited by Boydsan, 04 April 2013 - 05:42 PM.

[Roland]

Thontor, on 04 April 2013 - 04:29 PM, said:

I disagree.. MWO is the best multiplayer PC game based in the Battletech universe to date.. IMO of course.

Exactly freaking this.

Anyone who doubts this either never actually PLAYED the prior mechwarrior titles, or is remembering them with rose tinted glasses.

People are comparing MWO to some kind of idealized game that exists only in their mind, and raging because it is not that.. which, in reality is good, because that game is probably one that would suck balls and would be one that only that single person would like.. or, even more likely, that they themselves wouldn't even like.

I played MW4 in competitive planetary leagues for years (and honestly, I do not recall ever even hearing about the OP's leagues in MW4, leading me to believe that perhaps they were 3rd person leagues or something). I loved MW4.. and the previous ones as well. But let us be crystal clear here. MWO absolutely trounces them all in terms of gameplay at this point.

Does MWO have issues? Of course. But those of us who remember anything about MW4 remember that it had even MORE issues.

After PR1, it had essentially ZERO weapons balance. Lasers were better than all other weapons, by an order of magnitude. Other weapons could be made to work, but largely by virtue of so many players being so entrenched into the ERLL snipe meta that pushing out of that comfort zone could screw most teams baddly.

Now that MWO's netcode is largely fixed, it offers a far better online experience than any prior MW title.

In terms of depth of the mech construction system, MWO trounces prior titles. The limitations they've implemented are fairly well considered. Folks complain about "Oh man, it's this cheap! You can put ammo in your legs! You can boat 2 AC20's! You can run 4 PPCs!"

In MW3 you could load up like 16 medium lasers, and stick them all in your freaking torsos and legs. Every mech was a freaking gun bag.

In MW2, you could load every single ton on a nova up with small lasers, then launch yourself at 500kph towards the enemy using JJ's, fire everything, and then just zoom off at 500kph.

Folks don't seem to remember that kind of crap when they wistfully recall those "great" games of days gone by.

MWO has a long way to go.. but damned if it isn't a freaking sweet game right now.

Finally, if the OP was really more into Mechcommander than mechwarrior, then MWO probably isn't gonna be for him. MWO is, and always should be, a shooter at its core. A "thinking man's shooter", perhaps, but still a shooter.

If you are an ancient fossil whose reflexes are shot and who lacks the hand eye coordination to play modern video games, then you aren't gonna be competitive at this game. It's not battletech. It's mechwarrior. You either deal with it, or you go home.

[Alilua]

we could fix bugs, but here pay us for a champion mech to sit in your paid mech bay next to your paid hero mech to use your paid premium time on to use pay for consumable coolant flushes, air strikes, and artillery strikes when you play our free* to play game.

[Pihoqahiak]

Davers, on 04 April 2013 - 04:23 PM, said:

Star Citizen will have a shop. It will sell things as well. It will have cash ships too. This is because the game cannot be funded totally by paint schemes and bobbleheads.

Well, tell that to Riot Games, I guess they're doing it all wrong with League of Legends.

[Davers]

Alilua, on 04 April 2013 - 05:44 PM, said:

we could fix bugs, but here pay us for a champion mech to sit in your paid mech bay next to your paid hero mech to use your paid premium time on to use pay for consumable coolant flushes, air strikes, and artillery strikes when you play our free* to play game.

You can use air strikes, coolant, and and artillery without using real money for the same effect. Champion mechs and Hero mechs do not provide any extra fun or power. The game is free to play. Your whole post is just wrong.

[Flashback37]

hammerreborn, on 04 April 2013 - 04:40 PM, said:

Ok let me preface this by saying I was a major head designer for Earthseige 1, 2, and Starseige and I have to say, this game, while it has some bugs, is way better than that other guys supposedly created games.

If the 'other guy' you are referring to is the creator of Star Citizen....well you are dead wrong there. Every game that he created was way better than any MW title to date. SC set the record for crowd funding and made another 2million plus in pledges AFTER the the official crowd funding ended. I am in fact saving up to upgrade my pledge asap.
But that's all ot as they are 2 fundamentally different types of games.

[anonymous175]

One Medic Army, on 04 April 2013 - 05:39 PM, said:

Who says I'm not doing that too? Seriously this blog post gave my inner optimizer a stat-gasm.

I just think that anyone who comes in here whining about things being ruined, without having any specifics nor suggestions can (Get The F Out) and stay out.
You don't like the direction the game is heading? Post specifics, arguments. Get people to agree with them. FFS we've already gotten the devs to change course several times based on player feedback.

I agree, choice is good, choices are better.

And in the interest of optimism, I would hope more people would take you up on your excellent advice and those truly just being venomous can rightfully get the **** out of Mechville.

It takes a outstanding Mech Citizen to be able to raise the rhetoric of this forum cesspool to the next level while winning hearts and minds.

The unfortunate news is that for all those who read through this post and was expecting the ending of this post would reveal that outstanding Mech Citizen to be me?

You am disappoint.

[MischiefSC]

Alilua, on 04 April 2013 - 05:44 PM, said:

we could fix bugs, but here pay us for a champion mech to sit in your paid mech bay next to your paid hero mech to use your paid premium time on to use pay for consumable coolant flushes, air strikes, and artillery strikes when you play our free* to play game.

None of that stuff requires money to make any sort of difference. I use coolant a lot now, all with cbills.

It's also being done by two different groups. If all they did was bugfix than new content would come out too slowly to keep interest.

Don't be a goof. This isn't a new concept. PGI is doing fine. It's an open beta and some people want it all to be done and finished and perfect NNNAAAAOOOOWWWWW!!!!!.

I get that. Doesn't make it realistic though. It's a closed beta that's selling non-balance impacting stuff to help fund development. Hell of a lot better than selling your soul to EA to get the money from a publisher up front. Find me a recent EAT title that doesn't have game reviews about it including the term 'sellout'.

If you can't handle an open beta than go away for a year and come back. It'll be all pretty for you.

[BrotherEJ]

I don't often post but seeing this thread was just too funny. WTF

OK everyone right now read the terms of service. And you know what ....

This is the first Mechwarrior game I have played and its great. I could give a rats *** what you qq whores are saying. You are no longer the big leader of the past so sit down, log on, and play or not.

What the hell happend did ya have a bad day?

Its gonna be ok guy and gals just chill.

Beta Fatigue is high here ar MWO tooo bad

lol

cheers

[Davers]

Pihoqahiak, on 04 April 2013 - 05:48 PM, said:

Well, tell that to Riot Games, I guess they're doing it all wrong with League of Legends.

Guess they have better players?

[Alilua]

All the options to pay for content take away from the game feel too much for me. I am surprised they don't have 3rd party adverts all over the place with a pay for option to take them away.

[One Medic Army]

Davers, on 04 April 2013 - 05:58 PM, said:

Guess they have better players?

They certainly have more.
And worse behaved.

I still can't understand why that genre is so popular and the people who play it so abrasive.

[StandingCow]

Whats this? PGI risked a lot to bring us a game that nobody else would after 10 or so years...they have done a pretty good job so far (few bumps in the road)...

Yea, they are really screwing the franchise. *There isn't a rolleyes big enough on the internet for you OP*

[James Warren]

You know, if they make enough money they'll be able to hire some new programmers, artists, etc.
I don't understand why so many people who clearly have great passion for the franchise seem to want this game to fail so badly. You should be happy that PGI are making money and that there's even a new mechwarrior game this decade, because without PGI you'd most likely have nothing.

Don't forget that the development team is also passionate about the franchise. You can't expect it to be the same as the battletech you had 20 years ago, these things need to evolve in order to survive.

[tyrone dunkirk]

I like the one or two posts about PGI apologists or defense force being too vocal. Maybe it happens that people like the game and the chance to play a real MechWarrior again, and dislike the fact that one or two people start threads like this with baseless, or minor complaints saying the sky is falling. I suppose it could just be that PGI has made a game that warrants defending from bad word of mouth founded on foolishness that can hurt it before it's been fully completed ( Community Warfare, new UI, New Team set-up, etc. NOT the damn Beta excuses though, those expired way back in CB's end. ) But that's just my opinion. I find myself grateful that the chance to mount up is back, but the real people who enjoy this game aren't here in the forums, they're playing it right now. Hell, I'd be playing now too, if I weren't busy with real-life issues for the moment.

Edited by tyrone dunkirk, 05 April 2013 - 10:46 AM.

[Vactus]

When did you join the game? Cause I've been here since June and it is waaaaay better than it used to be. Spoiled much?

[XG Darkside]

Not sure if the OP is still following this thread, but I played in the Starlance league for MW3/MW4 as well as the NBT4 planetary league. I loved those leagues and without them those games would have had very little online presence. MWO seems to have a very solid foundation for gameplay but is seriously lacking support for league based competitive play. I know the developers have stated that team based gameplay support is coming, but I think they are losing some player interest in the game because some of us have been waiting for these features for a very long time. I don't know if I'm the only one that feels this way, but I'm getting bored of the random team matches and have really been looking forward to organized competitive team play with some kind of league support.