Aedan Dosiere, on 05 April 2013 - 02:42 AM, said:
Ok, for starters this was not at 0 range. Probably about 200m or so for the headshot to the HM Highlander. Dead. The Atlas did try to twist. I assume it was after seeing his center torso armor evaporate, but to bring any serious weapons to bear he had to twist back. Dead. The Awesome came in from their side firing on the first AC Cat, they simply turned and cored him. Dead. Yeah, the end. The end of 270 tons of mech who can't shoot out of their butts, so they must face the target to apply any damage. Twisting won't help if you can never bring your weapons to bear on a target for fear of getting insta-cored. By the way, this synopsis does not bring any relevant argument to the thread to support the legitimacy of the build. Again these little AC Cats and AC Jagers are something never seen before in ANY of the Mechwarrior / Battletech universe.
The fact that they got within effective range of the AC20 cats was a mistake in the first place. Engage them from 600ms out and its a different story.
Also regarding the Clan mechs being decimated from 270m effective range battlemechs who don't move very fast. Sorry not likely. A nova would devastate that ****. Much less all the other clanner designs built around long range firepower. Adders (pumas) with two clan erppcs, which is canon btw, would core your ****** K2s and Jagers in no time.
But I do agree that there is no precedent for mounting two AC20s on a Jager or a Catapult in the history of any lore or TT records ever.
Prathios, on 05 April 2013 - 02:53 AM, said:
Yes, it certainly had the firepower! But if you had read your own link, or even the summary Aedan posted earlier, you would see it was A) Using an XL engine, and
lightly armored. "
The Hunchback IIC is a Clan-tech refit of the venerable Hunchback. Its meager six tons of armor, coupled with paltry ammunition and lack of long-range weapons, led Inner Sphere observers to conclude that this 'Mech was a last-ditch effort for failed warriors to die with glory. In truth, the assignment of a Hunchback IIC was essentially a death sentence. Warriors given this machine were not expected to survive their next battle." First two sentences of the link you posted. You rather defeated your own argument there. Current Jagers and Cats can use regular engines with maxed armor to achieve their damage output. An IIC would probably die from a single round of IS AC20 to his center torso. I'll grant you that if it gets to shoot anything... ouch.
You do know that Clan XL engines allow it to survive side torso destruction. It also refers to fighting other clan weapons, cos second-line mechs rarely fight IS forces. No **** it wouldn't survive all of ten seconds dancing around a nova, or an adder, which could core it before it could even fire back. The same **** will happen to the slow-as-hell AC20s Jager and Cat builds if they ever did tangle with a nova or adder. Death sentence from long range direct fire.
Edited by Frederik Focht, 05 April 2013 - 03:01 AM.