64 replies to this topic

[HighlandCoo]

Jeez they look like crap and are totally ineffective.

At least if they had some gee-whizz-bang effect more people might use them.

Anyone?

[Purplefluffybunny]

I think that one of the issues is that the 'accuracy' upgrade gives no real benefit i.e. the surface area of the impact clusters is considered better when smaller by PGI. When the surface area of the impact clusters is smaller it makes it easier for the enemy to avoid being struck. The countdown till impact is just too long to catch anyone out too. PGI need to rethink this 'improved accuracy' upgrade.

Edited by Purplefluffybunny, 11 April 2013 - 02:18 PM.

[Devin Caedwyn]

I sure would like to see some better effects for them. Like for the firing, a nice dull and distant sounding, low rumbling booms and some impressive sounding and looking explosions.

For the air strike I'd really like to hear the screech of the bomber's engine as it flies over and some improved explosions and sound effects.

As for actual effectiveness, I haven't used them enough to have much of an opinion, but I sure as hell do NOT want them to be TOO effective.

The biggest issue is stacking. If they're too effective, when a whole team uses them, it could end up being game-breaking.

[Teir Dasande]

Devin Caedwyn, on 11 April 2013 - 02:16 PM, said:

I sure would like to see some better effects for them. Like for the firing, a nice dull and distant sounding, low rumbling booms and some impressive sounding and looking explosions.

For the air strike I'd really like to hear the screech of the bomber's engine as it flies over and some improved explosions and sound effects.

As for actual effectiveness, I haven't used them enough to have much of an opinion, but I sure as hell do NOT want them to be TOO effective.

The biggest issue is stacking. If they're too effective, when a whole team uses them, it could end up being game-breaking.

They cannot be stacked really, they cannot be used in the first 60s of a game, and then only one strike or arty every ten seconds, team wide.

[Roadbeer]

Devin Caedwyn, on 11 April 2013 - 02:16 PM, said:

I sure would like to see some better effects for them. Like for the firing, a nice dull and distant sounding, low rumbling booms and some impressive sounding and looking explosions.

For the air strike I'd really like to hear the screech of the bomber's engine as it flies over and some improved explosions and sound effects.

As for actual effectiveness, I haven't used them enough to have much of an opinion, but I sure as hell do NOT want them to be TOO effective.

The biggest issue is stacking. If they're too effective, when a whole team uses them, it could end up being game-breaking.

1. there is a time delay between launches, so not really a stacking.
2. Any team dumb enough to continue to stand in one place after getting hit by arty/airstrike twice, deserves to be burned down by the holy fire from above.

Other than that, I'm sure this is just the first pass, stay tuned.

[Captain Stiffy]

These things are a joke

[Rashhaverak]

They definitely need something. It's an artillery strike for goodness sake. Apparently the artillery that you call in are six AC/2's... that fire once.

Edited by Rashhaverak, 11 April 2013 - 02:26 PM.

[Selbatrim]

Teir Dasande, on 11 April 2013 - 02:19 PM, said:

They cannot be stacked really, they cannot be used in the first 60s of a game, and then only one strike or arty every ten seconds, team wide.

Yeah, that's only 6 strikes per side per minute... no worries... Beef it up I say. NukewarriorOnline

/sarcasm

You cannot let everyone have access to this and make it effective. Restrict it to one commander per team using a command console. Then you can beef it up. If not leave it out of MWO. This is not Wolfenstein ET (even there it was restricted by class at the least)

Edited by Selbatrim, 11 April 2013 - 02:38 PM.

[HighlandCoo]

I'm REALLY hoping that they dialled everything down to ZERO to see how we would react. Then they can start dialling up the power incrementally until they get to a happy point.

I HOPE.

[Iron Hyena]

Selbatrim, on 11 April 2013 - 02:37 PM, said:

Yeah, that's only 6 strikes per side per minute... no worries... Beef it up I say. NukewarriorOnline

/sarcasm

You cannot let everyone have access to this and make it effective. Restrict it to one commander per team using a command console. Then you can beef it up. If not leave it out of MWO. This is not Wolfenstein ET (even there it was restricted by class at the least)

You obviously have no idea what you are talking about, and havent ever used the aforementioned strikes.

[Nick Carlile]

They will get looked at before other things due to them being a way for PGI to generate MC purchases.

So I'd expect it will be sooner than later.

[MoonUnitBeta]

Surely

[Selbatrim]

Dornhal, on 11 April 2013 - 02:41 PM, said:

You obviously have no idea what you are talking about, and havent ever used the aforementioned strikes.

Really? Seems to me your argument is they need to beef them up because they suck, right? Not contesting that. What I am saying is if they DO beef them up and make them effective, everyone will start using them. Then you'll have to nerf them because they actually do what you wanted them to do.

How can you not see that? And why are you so keen on nukebuttons anyway? Isn't it infinitely more satisfying blowing the targets away yourself? Using actual skill?

Currently there are 8 players per side. Each can carry 2 strikes, 1 arty + 1 air = 16 per team = 32 per match. That does not sound like fun to me. I don't care how long the startup grace period is.

[Roadbeer]

Yes, they will get another pass

And stop calling me Shirley.

[Pale Jackal]

Better visual and sound effects? Sure.

But I'm not sure if I want them buffed. I don't want them to be a staple of gameplay, except to breakup tight clusters of 'mechs.

[HighlandCoo]

Hell no they definitely need buffed - they are USELESS right now.

[CarnifexMaximus]

"Artillery adds dignity to what otherwise would be a vulgar brawl" - Frederick The Great (1712-1786)

Not sure he played MWO

[Victor Morson]

Very rarely do I say something needs a "ground up redesign", but these really do. They're terrible on every level. They look terrible, they sound weak as a whisper, they don't do any damage, they don't hit and their upgrades actually downgrade them.

There is no aspect of them that was handled well.

EDIT: In before he-who-shalt-not-be-named joins the thread to try to tell you the glories of his repair & rearm system over the evils of consumables.

[Nick Carlile]

Victor Morson, on 11 April 2013 - 03:22 PM, said:

Very rarely do I say something needs a "ground up redesign", but these really do. They're terrible on every level. They look terrible, they sound weak as a whisper, they don't do any damage, they don't hit and their upgrades actually downgrade them.

There is no aspect of them that was handled well.

EDIT: In before he-who-shalt-not-be-named joins the thread to try to tell you the glories of his repair & rearm system over the evils of consumables.

Hard to debate, PGI should probably take the guy who worked on these to task. It's about the poorest implementation of something I've seen in a game in a while.

Especially something specifically put in to (hopefully) generate MC purchases.

[Roadbeer]

Victor Morson, on 11 April 2013 - 03:22 PM, said:

EDIT: In before he-who-shalt-not-be-named joins the thread to try to tell you the glories of his repair & rearm system over the evils of consumables.

Justin Bieber?