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Friendly Mechs Disapear From Radar (Not Under Ecm)


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#1 Hauser

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 04:21 PM

I occasionally encounter the following situation.

At first I can see friendly mech, then when I stop looking at him, he also disappears from my radar and map. It seems to happen with any mech of any type, independent of map or anything else.

Now I see the friendly Atlas on the left and his triangle appears on the map.

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Now I don't see him and the triangle is gone. The team remains visible.

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Edited by Hauser, 09 April 2013 - 04:22 PM.


#2 warner2

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 05:03 AM

Certainly right now I get this all the time. As friendly contacts come and go there is the usual beeping noise. I get it a lot at the beginning of drops where, I presume, there is a friendly that can't be seen by me or any other friendly (edit: to clarify, is not in LOS, then comes into LOS). I've been playing for about 3 months or so and am not sure if it's always been like this. If it hasn't always been like this, I've only really started to notice this, and the beeping in-particular, more recently (last 3/4 weeks say). Possibly it's a known change that I missed in the patch notes.

I'm interested to see other replies to this.

Edited by warner2, 10 April 2013 - 05:04 AM.


#3 Deathlike

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 05:30 AM

It has always been like this. LOS is required to see a teammate and vice versa.

In terms of ECM, blue triangles dropping off pretty quickly is usually a sign of ECM in the area.. unless it's most of your teammates dropping outside of LOS.

#4 ohtochooseaname

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 08:09 AM

I get this as well, especially if it's a friendly ECM.

#5 Crimson Fenris

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 08:27 AM

Happen mostly with friends equipped with ECM, especially lights, but Atlases DC as well.

#6 Hauser

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 04:07 PM

View PostDeathlike, on 10 April 2013 - 05:30 AM, said:

It has always been like this. LOS is required to see a teammate and vice versa.

In terms of ECM, blue triangles dropping off pretty quickly is usually a sign of ECM in the area.. unless it's most of your teammates dropping outside of LOS.


There is no enemy ECM in the area and if you look at the minimap I can still see the other memebers of my team. It's just that one Atlas that disapears.

#7 Roadbuster

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 11:48 PM

View PostDeathlike, on 10 April 2013 - 05:30 AM, said:

It has always been like this. LOS is required to see a teammate and vice versa.

How can it be that you, for example, see teammates in the tunnel in Frozen City from the other side of the wall if you look in their direction? No LOS, but you see their IFF info.

#8 Undecided

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Posted 12 April 2013 - 01:32 PM

I have been getting this issue a lot recently, both on mechs with and without ECM. And no, there are no enemy ECM mechs around, this happens even at the start of the match.

#9 Deathlike

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Posted 12 April 2013 - 01:40 PM

View PostHauser, on 11 April 2013 - 04:07 PM, said:


There is no enemy ECM in the area and if you look at the minimap I can still see the other memebers of my team. It's just that one Atlas that disapears.

View PostRoadbuster, on 11 April 2013 - 11:48 PM, said:

How can it be that you, for example, see teammates in the tunnel in Frozen City from the other side of the wall if you look in their direction? No LOS, but you see their IFF info.


I think this might be an unintended effect of TEAMMATES having ECM. The Atlas you are not looking at has ECM, judging from the screenshot.

This is probably a bug, but as for most things for PGI... "working as intended".

Edited by Deathlike, 12 April 2013 - 01:41 PM.


#10 Phaesphoros

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Posted 12 April 2013 - 03:46 PM

Experiencing this bug, too...
It's hard to notice/track down, but if you hear that blip with no ECM and not enemy around you, you'll know...

Yes, no ECM involved. No enemy. Know for sure I had this once on a friendly Hunchback.

#11 Genewen

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 09:16 AM

It's not friendly ECM bugging out either. This happens to me even in matches with not a single ECM involved.

#12 Deathlike

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 10:53 AM

My suggestion is to record a video of it in action. This may or may not get the devs attention.

Although, I wonder if it's related to the HUD bugs...

#13 senaiboy

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Posted 14 April 2013 - 12:42 AM

This bug has existed since Closed Beta. I had thought the Devs knew about it as it's really common, but just at a low priority. I think it was related to the Third Team bug, where that friendly was treated as the third team and so you need LOS to target him.

As such it existed before even ECM came into the game. And not related to the new HUD bugs.

Edit: To clarify above:
1. LOS is not needed to see where your teammates are on the map/minimap.
2. Friendly ECM does not hide your ECM-carrying teammate from your map/minimap.

Edited by senaiboy, 14 April 2013 - 12:47 AM.


#14 John MatriX82

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Posted 14 April 2013 - 01:00 AM

View PostGenewen, on 13 April 2013 - 09:16 AM, said:

It's not friendly ECM bugging out either. This happens to me even in matches with not a single ECM involved.


Yep, I miss friendly jenners with no ECM (be them enemy or allied) at least friendlies should always be visible on the radar no matter los.

#15 IIASBESTOSII

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Posted 14 April 2013 - 09:11 AM

I concur. I've seen this happen to me quite a few times even when an ECM was not on my team.





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