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Hammer's 3050 Challange Results (Lots Of Data Inside!)


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Poll: Mech diversity! (146 member(s) have cast votes)

Would you like to see more data like this in the future

  1. Yes (133 votes [91.10%])

    Percentage of vote: 91.10%

  2. No (5 votes [3.42%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.42%

  3. I don't care (8 votes [5.48%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.48%

Do you find the results interesting?

  1. What I expected (21 votes [14.38%])

    Percentage of vote: 14.38%

  2. Interesting (102 votes [69.86%])

    Percentage of vote: 69.86%

  3. Surprised (12 votes [8.22%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.22%

  4. Unimpressed (6 votes [4.11%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.11%

  5. Don't care. (5 votes [3.42%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.42%

Did this study change your stance/outlook on ECM/matchmaker

  1. Yes to both (17 votes [11.64%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.64%

  2. Yes to ECM (3 votes [2.05%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.05%

  3. Yes to Matchmaker (24 votes [16.44%])

    Percentage of vote: 16.44%

  4. No to either (89 votes [60.96%])

    Percentage of vote: 60.96%

  5. Don't care (13 votes [8.90%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.90%

Same as 3, but on mech diversity overall

  1. Yes (35 votes [23.97%])

    Percentage of vote: 23.97%

  2. No (67 votes [45.89%])

    Percentage of vote: 45.89%

  3. Maybe (33 votes [22.60%])

    Percentage of vote: 22.60%

  4. Don't care (11 votes [7.53%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.53%

When would you like to see the next diversity study done?

  1. During a tournament (4 votes [10.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.00%

  2. During a class weekend (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  3. The week highlander is release (1 votes [2.50%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.50%

  4. The week after highlander release (6 votes [15.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.00%

  5. Monthly (23 votes [57.50%])

    Percentage of vote: 57.50%

  6. Other (please elaborate in comments) (6 votes [15.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.00%

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#81 Hammertrial

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 07:38 PM

View Postp4g3m4s7r, on 15 April 2013 - 07:30 PM, said:

I agree that TAG is basically perfect, but the system it does such a good job supporting is terrible, which hurts TAG.

Excel is a wonderful thing. Especially when you get to the point where you literally need the extra memory provided by Office 2010 :D


Technically I use open office.

It's kinda hilarious. My first data set I did using notepad. 3 rounds later and i have a nearly fully automated system in open office, and next time it will be even more so.

If only I could make it auto input the data id be set =P

#82 Turook

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 12:30 AM

I believe that diversity studies would be be done during normal play and not during extra XP weekends etc. Too many people are trying to farm as much XP as they can during those times, so it would skew findings.

#83 hammerreborn

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 09:40 AM

View PostTurook, on 18 April 2013 - 12:30 AM, said:

I believe that diversity studies would be be done during normal play and not during extra XP weekends etc. Too many people are trying to farm as much XP as they can during those times, so it would skew findings.


And during the week people are leveling up the new mechs, or eliting other variants like the raven 2x/4x, which also skews results. At least during special weekends you can clearly account for those (for instance, like I did showing Founders and Heroes distributions).

Tournaments are probably the best bet, but those are also heavily weighted towards the ruleset (for instance, lots of TAG was used in the last one because of the spotting bonuses).

#84 Lance425

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 12:49 PM

I think tournaments would a good bet, but just during the week would be a good time. I believe this one proved that the majority of XP weekends will be full of Hero mechs. It would be interesting to see the fluctuations of Trial mechs from one instance to another.

Keep up the good work Hammer and I'll gladly participate in the next one as well!

#85 Dracol

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 01:29 PM

Great work and an interesting set of data to take in.

I'll keep my eye out for the next time you do this so i can add to the data set.

Oh.. and thank you for taking the time to do this. Much appreciated.

#86 hammerreborn

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 03:17 PM

View PostLance425, on 18 April 2013 - 12:49 PM, said:

I think tournaments would a good bet, but just during the week would be a good time. I believe this one proved that the majority of XP weekends will be full of Hero mechs. It would be interesting to see the fluctuations of Trial mechs from one instance to another.

Keep up the good work Hammer and I'll gladly participate in the next one as well!

View PostDracol, on 18 April 2013 - 01:29 PM, said:

Great work and an interesting set of data to take in.

I'll keep my eye out for the next time you do this so i can add to the data set.

Oh.. and thank you for taking the time to do this. Much appreciated.


I'm thinking next month either just before or the week after the next mech release.

#87 Hellcat420

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 03:20 PM

waste of time

#88 Inkarnus

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 03:32 PM

243 atlas D wow :) thought the DDC would be number 1 but i think alot of them got sick of it

#89 hammerreborn

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 03:35 PM

View PostInkarnus, on 18 April 2013 - 03:32 PM, said:

243 atlas D wow :) thought the DDC would be number 1 but i think alot of them got sick of it


A mix of hero/founder bonuses, and the missile hotfix makes them less desirable than direct, long range weapons. Most likely.

Edited by hammerreborn, 18 April 2013 - 03:35 PM.


#90 Inkarnus

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 03:48 PM

so true but still a very good atlas





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