38 replies to this topic

[Elizander]

You leg them. If you can't, then practice aiming better at high speeds, then you go back and leg them.

Edited by Elizander, 12 April 2013 - 01:59 AM.

[bmortime]

Aim for Legs.
Buddy System.
Know where your allies are at all times, and learn how to sucker them into following you into an ambush.
I also prefer to use alternate fire with my lasers when fighting a light mech instead of striking with multiples at once, it allows me to track where to fire to damage the enemy.

[Elizander]

bmortime, on 12 April 2013 - 01:52 AM, said:

Aim for Legs.
Buddy System.
Know where your allies are at all times, and learn how to sucker them into following you into an ambush.
I also prefer to use alternate fire with my lasers when fighting a light mech instead of striking with multiples at once, it allows me to track where to fire to damage the enemy.

This too. I usually alternate left and right, but I'll alpha if they decide to stop or go in a straight line.

[pjnt]

Your ping is a big issue. I like to circle of death and the come to a complete halt and charge head on. Change your direction and always try hit the same part of the mech, be it legs, CT, RT etc. Whichever is most damaged. Also try show different sides of your mech to the enemy. Roll the damage. If both mechs do 100 damage, make yours in one spot, make theirs spread all over your armor.

Use terrain. I also like to zig zag in and out of buildings. Coming again to a halt just as they loose sight so as they follow you around a corner they run into a trap and you can get in behind where the armor is much weaker.

With that jenner OP I like 6 med lasers. They deliver a lot of damage to one point instantly.

Like others say, too. Try lead them as you battle towards favorable areas. A single alfa blast from an assault friendly can quickly turn a 50/50 battle into a one shot kill. Also, don't let them lead you. Be mindful of your surroundings -

Lastly, don't be afraid to run away. If the situation looks bad and your in over your head, get help. Regroup with your main force, since only a fool of a light pilot would follow you. Live today to fight tomorrow. A dead light mech is no good to anyone.

Practice!

[Elizander]

pjnt, on 12 April 2013 - 02:03 AM, said:

Your ping is a big issue.

I disagree with the above. I play with 300+ ping on average and it's not an issue with lasers as your main weapons due to HSR.

pjnt, on 12 April 2013 - 02:03 AM, said:

Practice!

I agree with the above~

[pjnt]

Elizander, on 12 April 2013 - 02:06 AM, said:

I disagree with the above. I play with 300+ ping on average and it's not an issue with lasers as your main weapons due to HSR.



I agree with the above~

Not convinced that HSR levels the playing field between a 20 and 310 ping. Perhaps my technical know-how just isn't up to scratch to understand why it does make things equal but in practice I lack confidence in it delivering as promised.

[TheGreatNoNo]

Huh, wont allow me to post memes. Lame.

Anyway with that ping stick to laser based weapons, you won`t hit unless your a good lag shooter.
Also I have noticed half the time lasers won`t do damage but the end match says you did. How did I do 171 damage JUST to a ravens legs with 4 pulse lasers?

Edited by Lost One, 12 April 2013 - 02:54 AM.

[Lupin]

I agree with most players here that high pings are the source of some of your problems.
But if you are using a Jenner the body/center is easier to hit so suggest Raven, Commando or Cicada (Until missile problem is sorted).
Biggest advantage with Jenner is jump, stop thinking in 2D. So practice with jump, jump turns and skips (Dusting) which all help throw off the other pilots aim. As well as looking for scenery to help you.

Also valid points already made for using Pulse Lasers, but you need to be a good shot and pick your targets.

[Saint Scarlett Johan]

I hear Raven and Jenner legs taste like chicken. Commando legs? Eh... no thanks...I'm not a cannibal...

[Joat]

Lost One, on 12 April 2013 - 02:51 AM, said:

Huh, wont allow me to post memes. Lame.

Anyway with that ping stick to laser based weapons, you won`t hit unless your a good lag shooter.
Also I have noticed half the time lasers won`t do damage but the end match says you did. How did I do 171 damage JUST to a ravens legs with 4 pulse lasers?

yes even with my steady 60-70 ping I am seeing this issue as well.I unloaded 288 damage across center/left/right torso with 2 L.lasers and 3 streaks.The mech I was facing did not have that much combined armor in the torso.No doubt I should have scraped him/her...however they walked away from the fight.

pjnt, on 12 April 2013 - 02:49 AM, said:

Not convinced that HSR levels the playing field between a 20 and 310 ping. Perhaps my technical know-how just isn't up to scratch to understand why it does make things equal but in practice I lack confidence in it delivering as promised.

ya I agree. IMO a bandaid to cover a gapping wound

[Mycrus]

death by ping..

and for some reason artemis boost SSRM locking time (which it shouldn't but in this game it does)

death by ping..

and for some reason artemis boost SSRM locking time (which it shouldn't but in this game it does)

[jeffsw6]

Rocdocta, on 11 April 2013 - 07:07 PM, said:

Buuuuuttt.....if i meet a fellow light mech it is often a 50/50 if i live.

You're winning 50% of your fights vs opponent lights? Nothing wrong with that.

It's better than me when I pilot a light or medium and encounter a light. My skill in light/mediums is poor. Sounds to me like yours is okay, honestly!

[Willie Sauerland]

Rocdocta, on 11 April 2013 - 07:07 PM, said:

I run a jenner F with 4 med and 2 small lasers. 150kph and jump. i can easily take on larger mechs. its routine now. Buuuuuttt.....if i meet a fellow light mech it is often a 50/50 if i live. my ping is 310 usually. i was perplexed as even vs a commando i struggled. he even over heated and i was next to his head firing point blank as much as i can and he just powers up and walks away...

i dont do the circle of death. i dodge, use cover, jump and spin around for shots but if i see a raven i usually die.

i tried ssrms in a differrent jenner but lock on time took too long. i tried pulse weapons but that didnt seem to help. i may be bad as i have trouble aiming at the same point and may be spreading the damage love too much.

does anyone have any pointers for lights fighting other lights.

Try running in a figure 8.

It confuses all

but the most experienced

and will allow you

to get behind the mech

which is

a very good place to be.

[Heeden]

When facing a streak mech you can try to extend your life by powering down.

[Kraven Kor]

Light fights are like a dogfight.

The guy with the "tail" wins. IE. the light mech chasing the other light mech wins.

Don't circle strafe. Do something to get in behind them and then stay behind them. This is naturally easier when you are faster than them, but achievable even if not if you know what you are doing.

I... do not... entirely too often. But I understand the concept and pull it off from time to time. I've even taken out ECM+Streak Raven 3L's in a COM-3A (like, three times now, maybe? Against anyone that wasn't braindead at least.)

[Zen Hachetaki]

What I love is when I am behind streak lights and their lasers never come close to touching me, but those wonderful streaks can keep their lock, shoot backwards and pound my CT to scrap (and ONLY my CT), no breaches anywhere else. Enjoy your cheese 3Ls - your time will come and I am sure all those 3L trash talkers will get the newest broken mech as they cannot handle not having an advantage simply due to broken mechanics. "If you are not 3L you are trash" indeed... douche...

/rant over

[Buckminster]

In the defense of anyone that says if you aren't in a 3L you're trash - maybe it's sarcasm, and not necessarily douchebaggery. The cheese that is the 3L is well documented. Maybe someone was just making a snarky comment on the current state of cheese.

Although as an occasional 3L pilot, my Streaks never seem to fire backwards, and seem to hit all torsos. Maybe I just don't have the good streaks.

[Willie Sauerland]

Zen Hachetaki, on 12 April 2013 - 10:03 AM, said:

What I love is when I am behind streak lights and their lasers never come close to touching me, but those wonderful streaks can keep their lock, shoot backwards and pound my CT to scrap (and ONLY my CT), no breaches anywhere else. Enjoy your cheese 3Ls - your time will come and I am sure all those 3L trash talkers will get the newest broken mech as they cannot handle not having an advantage simply due to broken mechanics. "If you are not 3L you are trash" indeed... douche...

/rant over

I have never

seen this happen.

And I am behind them

all the time

in my Commando 1B.

Edited by Willie Sauerland, 12 April 2013 - 10:56 AM.

[Zen Hachetaki]

Willie Sauerland, on 12 April 2013 - 10:56 AM, said:

I have never

seen this happen.

And I am behind them

all the time

in my Commando 1B.

I think it is the 360 lock and target decay modules at work - I shake and juke and break LOS with hills/jumping but the damn things keep coming - and there are several threads showing armor diagrams of cored CTs with yellow armor (not into internals) everywhere else. I driver Spiders a lot recently and streaks are my bane - CT every darn time.

If the guy earlier was being sarcastic I apologize if I misinterpreted it but have seen enough guys not being sarcastic and acting a similar way that I may have jumped to conclusion. If not - comment stands

Edited by Zen Hachetaki, 12 April 2013 - 11:01 PM.