33 replies to this topic

[Thornfoot]

As long as you to continue to refuse to fix ECM, you have to at least give us an SSRM over ride button that allows us to dumbfire our streaks. Forcing SSRMs to stay stuck in their tubes is just nonsense.

[Davers]

How about allowing SRMs to fire in streak mode instead.

[Scatterplot]

Although I agree with you about ECM's issues, streaks are designed in the battletech universe to only fire when a lock is achieved and a physical mechanism prevents them from launching without. Allowing a built-in dumbfiring of SSRMs would also even further bury the SRM-2.

I would, however, be for a module that enables dumbfiring of SSRMs in the event that a lock cannot be achieved. I think that would be an excellent module.

[Cranky Poed]

Just pack SRMs...

[MoonUnitBeta]

Was someone boating streaks and then died to ECM light?

[Cordel Ordo]

Well on this subject OP is kind of correct. SSRMs do indeed have a dumbfire ability, IF under ECM the SSRM launcher fires like a standard SRM. In MWO we do not have this capability and it hinders streaks ability in an ECM world. i have no coding ability or any real coding knowledge but couldn't this be implemented easily with something like (if under ECM = TRUE then SSRM2 becomes SRM2)?

[jeffsw6]

Scatterplot, on 18 April 2013 - 06:22 PM, said:

Allowing a built-in dumbfiring of SSRMs would also even further bury the SRM-2.

It's almost like certain weapons have no practical value in combat

[Davers]

Cordel Ordo, on 18 April 2013 - 06:58 PM, said:

Well on this subject OP is kind of correct. SSRMs do indeed have a dumbfire ability, IF under ECM the SSRM launcher fires like a standard SRM. In MWO we do not have this capability and it hinders streaks ability in an ECM world. i have no coding ability or any real coding knowledge but couldn't this be implemented easily with something like (if under ECM = TRUE then SSRM2 becomes SRM2)?

If streaks acted like that then why even have a SRM2?

[Cordel Ordo]

The srm2 is lighter and cheaper. Also with the way the game is why have single heatsinks with double? It's a constant factor in battletech and mechwarrior. New stuff trumps old. But old has its place. And streaks will only act like that under Ecm allowing them to still be used. Otherwise they are still streaks, they just have dumbfire capability under ecm so they aren't 2.5 wasted tons.

[Carrioncrows]

The fact that you use streaks and complain about ECM lowers my opinion on this whole thread.

Remove streaks from the game completely, then we can talk about ecm.

[Cordel Ordo]

I'm not complaining about ecm, I'm discussing a way to maintain the viability of ssrms be giving them a very basic ability they have had since their creation. but like lbxs ever getting slugs i doubt it's going to happen.

[Carrioncrows]

Viability of SSRMs?

There isn't a more "easy mode no-talent cheese-XXXX weapon" in all of existence that compares to what is known as the "SSRM" and you want to make it better.

Step out of the Raven 3L, or at the every least use some real weapons and take off the training wheels.

SSRM promotes hate, has nothing to do with skill and deserves to be removed from the game.

So pardon me if I find this whole "lets make it better" thread a little on the troll side.

[DEMAX51]

Seriously dude. SSRMs are the most easy-button weapon in the game right now, they don't need to be even more useful.

[Cordel Ordo]

I have never run nor will i run a 3l but my pc is utter garbage and I only get between 5-10 fps but I can play well enough in my opinion to still have fun. But because of this my aiming sucks so ssrms are helpful for me. Besides no one likes having a system completely taken away from them. Don't mention lrms because they can still be used, and I have seen them used effectively in a support role. Ssrms however get nullified totally and prevent any use thus hampering any who use it. Plus if you are ranting so bad about 2s wait till we get 4s and 6s. My method reduces them to simple srm2s when under ecm. That still limits their usefulness with ecm but the user still gets some dps out of them instead of getting no damage output at all.

[Carrioncrows]

Your inability to aim shouldn't factor into game balancing. (This part is directed at you)

(This below is directed at everyone)
Every weapon in this game you need skill to use or you can use skill to dodge, except for the SSRM.

It is a cheese weapon that has no place in MWO and needs a complete overhaul. As for the Streak 4 and Streak 6 weapons there is still a whole Year + before those hit and hopefull within that time we can hammer home PGI some sense when it comes to streaks.

When I die to any other weapon in the game it's "Nice shot, or well played" because those weapons take skill to aim. And i can try and prevent that aim by rolling the torso or evading. There is play and counterplay.

When I die to streaks it's none of that because there is no honor and no skill involved instead it's me telling person to "Go XXXX himself and the Streaks he rode in on you XXX hat no talent hack" There is no counter play with streaks. ECM is not a viable counter play option and a whole other many threads dedicated to it.

Die to any other weapon = The player that killed you is skilled and worthy of respect.
Die to streaks = That player is an XXXhole.

Conclusion?
Don't be an XXXhole, don't use streaks.

Edited by Carrioncrows, 19 April 2013 - 01:27 PM.

[Willie Sauerland]

Carrioncrows, on 19 April 2013 - 01:26 PM, said:

Conclusion?
Don't be an XXXhole, don't use streaks.

You need this -->Thread<-- pretty badly methinks...

Edited by Willie Sauerland, 19 April 2013 - 01:32 PM.

[Cordel Ordo]

So you would rather me gimp myself so I'm not being dishonorable? I would rather I use any system at my disposal to damage the enemy and bring them down. Is it dishonorable to fight and defeat an enemy? Since you hate streaks so much how about you go run a 3L and you won't be bothered by streaks again. Where is the honor in forcing others to play how you want? I'll play how i want you play how you want, agree to disagree. Is that acceptable to you?

[Willie Sauerland]

Cordel Ordo, on 19 April 2013 - 01:32 PM, said:

So you would rather me gimp myself so I'm not being dishonorable? I would rather I use any system at my disposal to damage the enemy and bring them down. Is it dishonorable to fight and defeat an enemy? Since you hate streaks so much how about you go run a 3L and you won't be bothered by streaks again. Where is the honor in forcing others to play how you want? I'll play how i want you play how you want, agree to disagree. Is that acceptable to you?

You don't have to listen to him you know.
You can play this game however you want.
Just sayin'...

[Ragor]

Davers, on 18 April 2013 - 06:21 PM, said:

How about allowing SRMs to fire in streak mode instead.

[Rofl]

Carrioncrows, on 19 April 2013 - 12:24 PM, said:

The fact that you use streaks and complain about ECM lowers my opinion on this whole thread.

Remove streaks from the game completely, then we can talk about ecm.

Other way around. Remove ECMs 100% streak denial and we'll talk about streaks.