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[Lt Shortcut]

The clan invasion has already started. By the time the clan tech comes into play for MWO, the invasion will have been going on for quite a while.

So it makes sense that when CW is released all the clan mechs, and tech, will be available to everyone.

Yes, a pure inner sphere atlas is not much of a match against a clan assault. But, an atlas with clan tech is a match.

[Team Leader]

No.

[Tennex]

that is a very good point.

[Team Leader]

Mixing.

THE TECH.

[Syllogy]

Uh... no?

Last time the devs said anything about mixing Clan Tech and IS Tech the answer was something along the lines of "No, we expect that players will not be able to equip Clan Tech on IS Mechs."

[Lonestar1771]

Syllogy, on 19 April 2013 - 06:48 PM, said:

Uh... no?

Last time the devs said anything about mixing Clan Tech and IS Tech the answer was something along the lines of "No, we expect that players will not be able to equip Clan Tech on IS Mechs."

I remember when they said no coolant or 3PV, but then again, that WAS their position at the time...

Edited by Lonestar1771, 19 April 2013 - 06:51 PM.

[Syllogy]

Lonestar1771, on 19 April 2013 - 06:50 PM, said:

I remember when they said no coolant or 3PV.....

I remember when it was stated that those comments about Coolant and 3PV were the personal opinions of people asked.

Furthermore, if IS mechs run Clan Tech, then PGI has effectively thrown away over a year of balancing the weapons they currently have.

...kinda dumb, don't ya think?

Edited by Syllogy, 19 April 2013 - 06:53 PM.

[Zerstorer Stallin]

I Think they should sell clan tech for MC only.

[Joker Two]

Allowing IS 'Mechs to run Clantech with no matchmaking consideration of the power of Clantech will simply create a giant armsrace, with casual gamers and new players suffering. And remember, the Inner Sphere didn't even begin to successfully reverse-engineer Clan weapons into their advanced IS counterparts for years, much less mass-produce Clantech (which they never really become able to do on their own).

Player forces achieve an "A" Equipment rating (100% Advanced Inner Sphere tech) very quickly in this game, most armies did not reach this standard until the Republic Era, if even then.

[FupDup]

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Don't worry about Clans being overpowered

They still got 7 crit Endo and FF (not to mention their FF has higher damage resistance), 2-crit XL engines (you can survive losing 1 side torso), and 2-slot DHS.

I'm gonna worry.

Edited by FupDup, 19 April 2013 - 07:01 PM.

[Eddrick]

Lonestar1771, on 19 April 2013 - 06:50 PM, said:

I remember when they said no coolant or 3PV, but then again, that WAS their position at the time...

!?!? He does have a point. They can change thier mind.

[Lonestar1771]

Syllogy, on 19 April 2013 - 06:52 PM, said:

...kinda dumb, don't ya think?

Yes it would be dumb and EXACTLY what I expect them to do. It would be easier to just have ONE set of weapons to balance versus two. PGI has already proven they are lazy and will take any amount of shortcuts so why would they change now?

[Syllogy]

Lonestar1771, on 19 April 2013 - 07:09 PM, said:

Yes it would be dumb and EXACTLY what I expect them to do. It would be easier to just have ONE set of weapons to balance versus two. PGI has already proven they are lazy and will take any amount of shortcuts so why would they change now?

As a fellow Texan, it hurts to bring this out... but how much experience do you have in game development, exactly?

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Yes, dont worry, theyre working as intended.


no really; they are!

Team Leader, on 19 April 2013 - 06:47 PM, said:

Mixing.

THE TECH.

according to that one article (and depending on if thats not a misquote or the author attacking the game/devs) you have to join the clans to buy their tech

http://www.warcry.co...After-Release.2

Edited by Mechwarrior Buddah, 19 April 2013 - 07:15 PM.

[qki]

Zerstorer Stallin, on 19 April 2013 - 06:57 PM, said:

I Think they should sell clan tech for MC only.

what the hell are you smoking son? A clan ERPPC that has better range, weighs 6 tons and does 150% of IS ERPPC damage available for MC only?

So you actually want only the paying players to be even remotely able to win?

[Merky Merc]

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 19 April 2013 - 07:14 PM, said:

according to that one article (and depending on if thats not a misquote or the author attacking the game/devs) you have to join the clans to buy their tech

If that's true get ready for a lore rewrite as the overwhelming numbers of clan mechwarriors overwhelm the handful of ill-equipped and rping IS pilots.

I guess now we decide on who takes Earth? My money is on Clan Manbearpig.

Edited by Merky Merc, 19 April 2013 - 07:17 PM.

[Syllogy]

Merky Merc, on 19 April 2013 - 07:17 PM, said:

If that's true get ready for a lore rewrite as the overwhelming numbers of clan mechwarriors overwhelm the handful of ill-equipped and rping IS pilots.

I guess now we decide on who takes Earth? My money is on Clan Manbearpig.

You have a lot of research to do on how Community Warfare works, and the array of downsides to Clans and Clan Tech.

[Viper69]

Lt Shortcut, on 19 April 2013 - 06:45 PM, said:

The clan invasion has already started. By the time the clan tech comes into play for MWO, the invasion will have been going on for quite a while.

So it makes sense that when CW is released all the clan mechs, and tech, will be available to everyone.

Yes, a pure inner sphere atlas is not much of a match against a clan assault. But, an atlas with clan tech is a match.

A pure IS tech Atlas is not a match even for a Clan heavy. On paper that is. An atlas is too generalized and not specialized in one area to compete in the meta that will be clan ER MED lasers and SSRM6

[Merky Merc]

Syllogy, on 19 April 2013 - 07:19 PM, said:

You have a lot of research to do on how Community Warfare works, and the array of downsides to Clans and Clan Tech.

Then enlighten me oh wizened one. I didn't realize they had released all details concerning CW and Clans.

[Ozric]

/sigh. If they go ahead with this, everybody will switch to Clans.