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When You Pug, How Much Do You Work With Your Team?


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#41 Fenris Krinkovich

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 07:20 PM

As much as possible, and it usually helps.

#42 Zordicron

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 07:56 PM

results of this thread are fairly moot. I expect the players that dont bother paying attention to their team also dont bother coming to a forum to do something so annoying as "read".

that said, I always help my team, as much as possible. I follow the leader when that is appropriate, I lead when that is. i call out enemies, suggest flank positions, notify of loadouts if it is something specialized(like brawlageddon or support fire)

One thing i have stopped doing is following the one lone assault that is trying to go around to LRM people or cap of all things. I used to try to wingman that guy, to keep him upright figuring someone should so we dont have 85-100 tons of suicide on the team, but I found it pretty much was a lost cause.

#43 Kiiyor

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 08:03 PM

View PostRattlehead NZ, on 22 April 2013 - 05:56 PM, said:

Most people don't like people bossing them around, especially when they don't have a clue. Though I find it more productive to tell them what im doing which sometimes inspires them to do the same. My experience sees this more often on Capture missions rather than Assault.


Your sig is awesome, I actually laughed.

Then I remembered dragon bowling, and eviscerated my keyboard in a sudden burst of repressed rage.

#44 KillerCat

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 08:39 PM

I play exclusively as a PUG so when I enter a game I try chatting, some kind of off road comment, and see if it catches up, then I try to coordinate some kind of move for the team or join someone's idea if it's good enough. Sometimes the synergy is good enough that you don't even need chat and everyone just play godlike, tho thats really rare.

#45 Vassago Rain

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 08:40 PM

I almost always lead my team, even if they don't want me to.

#46 Khan Reaper

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 08:43 PM

View PostKillerCat, on 22 April 2013 - 08:39 PM, said:

I play exclusively as a PUG so when I enter a game I try chatting, some kind of off road comment, and see if it catches up, then I try to coordinate some kind of move for the team or join someone's idea if it's good enough. Sometimes the synergy is good enough that you don't even need chat and everyone just play godlike, tho thats really rare.


I agree, sometimes the team doesn't need to speak. And though it's rare, it can be really awesome when you manage to get put on a team that is composed of logical thinking folks. With that said, if you're a PUG and don't get into that whole "Voice Chat" thing, click the link in my sig. I'm trying to form a group of PUG'ers that aren't really a Merc Corp, but just a group that can play knowing that they are covered by the members on their team, whether they like chatting or not.

#47 MischiefSC

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 08:49 PM

I use it every match. Do my best to recommend a plan if nobody seems to have one. When the team uses chat and communicates I know my odds of a win just went way, way up. Quiet team tend to die a lot. Even when it's a premade of 2 or 3 who doesn't communicate with the team it doesn't matter - do your own thing you'll only win if the other team is even more stupid. Communicate and coordinate and your odds of winning go way, way up.

#48 JediPanther

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 08:53 PM

I try sometimes. Really depends on the mvement of the team at the start of a match. With the in game team chat I get about fifty-fifty when I suggest even the tinest bit of tactical advise. "upper?' and start moving there then see if any follow the lead etc.

#49 Kaspirikay

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 09:56 PM

Just stick to the larger group, usually.

#50 Xandergod

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 10:07 PM

What does everyone thing about people with command console having limited VOIP? If they go through the bother of buying it, the obviously want some sort of leadership roll. It would also limit the massive amount of voice spam we would get if there was an open channel for team chat?

#51 Elizander

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 10:22 PM

View PostLexLuther, on 22 April 2013 - 05:16 PM, said:

I didn't make a poll, because polls are stupid. Never the less, I still want some feedback for this question.



I realize that there is a skill gap between ELO ranks, but fundamentally, there should be some patterns of behavior. Let's say you drop solo, how much are you really working with your team? This game doesn't make things easy to formulate a game plan. Also, there is only so much you can type to the group before combat starts. So how much do you communicate with your PUG?


Sometimes it works out like when we have 1-2 DCs and I say we go defend a certain location and wait to ambush an overconfident scout or two. Sometimes it's a guessing game. You run with them and it's 50/50 that they will either fight with you on engage or just retreat and hide behind mountains. Sometimes you follow a D-DC only to find out that it's packing small lasers and LRMs.

#52 The Cheese

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 10:28 PM

I generally just try to roll with whatever the majority of the team is doing. If there's something glaringly wrong going on (like the team immediately heading in 4 different directions) I might make a suggestion, but most of the time people just follow the leader.

#53 Rattlehead NZ

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 11:32 PM

View PostKiiyor, on 22 April 2013 - 08:03 PM, said:


Your sig is awesome, I actually laughed.

Then I remembered dragon bowling, and eviscerated my keyboard in a sudden burst of repressed rage.

Thanks :P . I remember those almost bug free old days back in 2012 lol

View PostVassago Rain, on 22 April 2013 - 08:40 PM, said:

I almost always lead my team, even if they don't want me to.

I've been leading people so long that I've pretty much tired of it and appreciate when people get up the courage to do it in pug games ... as long as it makes sense of course.

#54 barnmaddo

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 12:12 AM

For the most part I just try to stick with 2-3 other mechs. On conquest I often call for help with ECM mechs. Sometimes I'll call out enemy positions. Sometimes I'll try to bait or distract.

#55 Inkarnus

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 12:29 AM

simple put i give a damn they dont help me i dont help them
and no Voice com wont help anything
since ppl will still just dont care or can be bothered to talk with there
mates nor setup decently there headset or buy one
since they are brainless tools
my last conquest was pure assault
mech
......
so i demand IQ check for MWO

Edited by Inkarnus, 23 April 2013 - 12:32 AM.


#56 nitra

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 01:20 AM

View PostInkarnus, on 23 April 2013 - 12:29 AM, said:

simple put i give a damn they dont help me i dont help them
and no Voice com wont help anything
since ppl will still just dont care or can be bothered to talk with there
mates nor setup decently there headset or buy one
since they are brainless tools
my last conquest was pure assault
mech
......
so i demand IQ check for MWO

Bleh .. i dont want to talk to people i hate this whole talking to people crap .

i dont want to hear the latest rendtion of im a high rolla gimma a holla

i dont want to hear what ever racial slur tickles someone fancy at the moment

i dont want to hear the asinine cultural references.

i just want them to shut up and be my targets ..


but for some reason people cant understand this .

they want some kinda higher level of interactivity and thats all fine and good go interact among your selves.

but dammnit i dont want to hear it, nor do i really want to participate in it, i just want to shoot you, and you shoot me and thats it .

clean simple click click boom . with no messy dialogue.

Edited by nitra, 23 April 2013 - 01:21 AM.


#57 Aim-Bot

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 01:42 AM

I dont know how the ELO and the matchmaking works, i really dont and i really dont care . All i can say is : It dont work for me.
I work with them alot but most of the time no one listens and in the end one side gets slaughterd most of the time. Its far away from even matches. I dont want to know my ELO or how this **** works i want a good game experience. PGI care!

#58 Tekadept

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 02:33 AM

I've given up trying to work as part of a team when I pug. It just doesn't happen, and if it appears to have happened it has been by pure accident. When I pug I treat it for what it is, A random race to blow **** up before your teammates do.

#59 Relic1701

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 02:38 AM

I always try to work with the team I'm landed with...

At the beginning of the match I usually type something along the lines of 'support each other & focus fire' or 'any plan of action', if I see a group with the same faction tags in one lance I inquire if they are a team etc....and 9 times out of 10, that will be the only thing I see typed in team chat.

On those occasions when the team communicate, the change in gameplay is astounding...if only people 'talked' more, this game would be so much better.

#60 Lokust Davion

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 02:44 AM

when im pugging...

in a slow mech: i work with my team by hanging back and not being the first guy to die. the first team that loses a player is usually the losing team.

in a fast mech: find and gang up on whoever your teammate is shooting at. i try to never attack alone in a fast mech. i can get in and out of action real fast.. (i love my jenner <3 <3 <3 :P )

another thing.. even if i type ******** annoying trollish nonsense stuff in chat its still helpful as it encourages people to reply back. and i find those who reply back are the ones that are most willing to work together as a team. :P





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