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#1 SteelWarrior

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 01:33 AM

On the first day.....Man cried about the XL engine Jenner
On the second day.....Man cried about the Guass Cat
On the third day.....Man complained the cost of repairs on XL engines was too high
On the fourth day......While some men equiped the LRMS of god that rained death upon all, other men cried it was too OP
On the fifth day......Mankind slept in a pool of tears over the dreaded ECM
On the sixth day.....The coming of the all power splatcat, terror overtook the peoples
And on the seventh day.....God gave man the power to jump in the air and fire their weapons. No one pondered that the lord himself had already given them a jump capable sniper before the Highlander.....The CTF 3D.



1. Lagshield removed, problem solved
2. People learned to shoot the massive cockpit, config outdated due to other mechs.
3. Repairs were declared free for all
4. LRMS where buffed, then nerfed, then buffed some more and nerfed some more. Currently not in danger of OPness.
5. Lagshield removed, ravens actually recieve damage, raven population ravaged
6. Out dated config, see answer 2. Also the introduction of sniper configs
7. Give it time young ones. The answer will be revealed.

7 times men have cried out in despair. 7 times the power that be have corrected it.

RELAX PEOPLE!

#2 aniviron

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 01:50 AM

You forgot the slaser swayback and the ac2 earthquake, among many others. Those were just my two favourites.

#3 Karl Streiger

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 01:56 AM

PPC are to weak
Large Laser are to weak
And the Streak Cat
And the PPC Fiasko

The GaussCat is still viable...and the real reason for its less apearance is the fragility of the Gauss itself...but that hurt Mechs like Hunchback and Atlas more.

There was much more crying... some with reasons, some just because they are used to a specific behaviour.... hard to say who is right and who is wrong

#4 OpCentar

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 01:57 AM

And Yeah the StreakCat, may it rest in pieces along with it's chainfire permastun.

Edited by OpCentar, 23 April 2013 - 01:58 AM.


#5 Rushin Roulette

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 01:59 AM

And dont forget the dragon bowling weekend long episode in your list. (along with the fixing of the dragon weight calculation followed by the complete removal of knockdowns as well)

#6 SteelWarrior

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 01:59 AM

View PostKarl Streiger, on 23 April 2013 - 01:56 AM, said:

PPC are to weak
Large Laser are to weak
And the Streak Cat
And the PPC Fiasko

The GaussCat is still viable...and the real reason for its less apearance is the fragility of the Gauss itself...but that hurt Mechs like Hunchback and Atlas more.

There was much more crying... some with reasons, some just because they are used to a specific behaviour.... hard to say who is right and who is wrong


IMO the splat cat is outdone by the Jagermech arm mountable slots and even the CTF 4X seems to pull it off better. at the end of the day the catapult always dies to cockpit shots :P

#7 Onmyoudo

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 02:03 AM

View PostSteelWarrior, on 23 April 2013 - 01:59 AM, said:


IMO the splat cat is outdone by the Jagermech arm mountable slots and even the CTF 4X seems to pull it off better. at the end of the day the catapult always dies to cockpit shots :P


The splatcat was SRMs, not AC20s.

#8 MW Waldorf Statler

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 02:04 AM

and the Crys
...against PinPoint Aiming
...No PvE
...No 3pV
... evil Premades OP
...the imaginery hacks
...the Sniper OP
...the brawler OP
...the Lights OP
...the DHS OP
...the Trials
...against the Heat from PPCs...the not playable
....against the Heat From PPCs now Overpowered
...against the Hardponits

Edited by CSJ Ranger, 23 April 2013 - 02:06 AM.


#9 bonapartist1

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 02:04 AM

You've left out the largest issue, and which remains completely unmitigated:

The imbalance of SSRM relative to the durability of light mechs, especially when equipped by other light mechs which also carry ECM, such as the Raven 3l.

Edited by bonapartist1, 23 April 2013 - 02:05 AM.


#10 SmoothCriminal

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 02:06 AM

View Postaniviron, on 23 April 2013 - 01:50 AM, said:

You forgot the slaser swayback and the ac2 earthquake, among many others. Those were just my two favourites.

View Postaniviron, on 23 April 2013 - 01:50 AM, said:

You forgot the slaser swayback and the ac2 earthquake, among many others. Those were just my two favourites.



Ahhh the 800m ranged car crash simulator, oh how I have missed thee...

#11 JudgeDeathCZ

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 02:08 AM

the problem I see there is that LRM nerf took 2 days?
And we will w8 for some kind to buff them for over a month...

#12 Cyb3rPr1m3

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 02:29 AM

Every game I go into I see someone complaining about something :P I honestly have stopped paying attention to it and just playing to enjoy the game. I must admit I don't like EVERYTHING, but I don't want to add to the tears with my own on those issues....

... Most likely because I need to save my tears for dying to often :P

#13 Aym

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 02:59 AM

Whew, you left out AC2 and UAC5 and LRM and SRM and SSRM screen shake... Mlas and SLas heat... Boomcats... the SEVERAL times Lurms were too powerful (not just the 1 finger of god week...)... All large energy weapons being too hot and/or too little damage... Atlas headbox, Awesome headbox, Raven WHOLE hit box... the actual lag shield, collisions causing displaced hit boxes and nigh invulnerability... The lack of collisions...

See here's the problem, most of these have been and/or are being addressed and that's great. The problem is we've seen buff after buff to weapons w/out regarding to game play. The game was WILDLY more fun at the pace it had in late-ish closed beta. Since then the only thing that has been nerfed is missiles and Gauss rifles, although GR has had the HSR implementation be an indirect buff so that may be a wash... And now people complain poptards and PPC boats are killing people too quickly. Well it's not JUST the current meta weapons, it was SRMS and Boomcats before, consider that when we thought the game was balanced the pin-point ranged alpha was 30 damage, so let's get PPC heat up a bit, maybe .5 to 1 heat per. Let's consider small energy weapons heat to come down .25 to .5 per shot... Let's address missiles a bit, and see what the landscape looks like for a while. Please consider the problem of constant buffs radically changing the game pace and therefore the meta.

#14 Karazyr

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 03:15 AM

I created a thread about this, figure out how to counter dont QQ about it on a forum

it fairly easy to counter most tactics, as for poptarts get the lights to rush and distract them then shoove a ac 20 up there arses >.> or stop piloting slow *** assault mechs are complaining that your big fat arse gets taken out :P upgrade your engine people

#15 OnLashoc

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 03:58 AM

Must be a younger bunch to the game^^

Must not been in long enough for the following:

-Medium Lasers OP
-Medium Pulse Laser Awesome OP
-Medium Laser / Pulse Lasor Streak Hunchie OP
-Atlases head shot doink
-Catapult head shot doink
-Ultra AC5's too OP
-Not enough heat generated OP
-Natural Skill OP must include random crit to make it more TT

Just a few I remember not mentioned.

#16 silentD11

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 04:19 AM

View Postbonapartist1, on 23 April 2013 - 02:04 AM, said:

You've left out the largest issue, and which remains completely unmitigated:

The imbalance of SSRM relative to the durability of light mechs, especially when equipped by other light mechs which also carry ECM, such as the Raven 3l.


The light mech community has been utterly savaged by hit box fixes and state rewind.

#17 Yokaiko

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 04:55 AM

View PostsilentD11, on 23 April 2013 - 04:19 AM, said:


The light mech community has been utterly savaged by hit box fixes and state rewind.



TO be fair the Jenner's actually are broken, the CT wraps around the back, there is no way to shade it.

I still run my Raven successfully.

#18 Syllogy

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 05:07 AM

You forgot the Atlas Headshotting LRMs, the Age of Atlas Overpopulation, and the Streak Cat.

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 05:11 AM

I'm kinda getting tired of all the "lol QQ moar at the meta" threads...

I mean, for gods sake they almost outnumber the "QQ" threads ffs...

#20 Dreepa

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 05:19 AM

@OP:

Some of those things change BECAUSE of the players voicing their opinion.

PGI has stated themselves, that they monitor the forums and take closer looks at issues that arise often, in multiple threads and for an ongoing period of time.


Being a developer, I can tell you: You WANT that feedback from the player.
That is why I say: DO NOT RELAX, but keep posting and help to identify issues that PGI cannot see (for any number of reasons, be it time due to workload, or organizational blindness due to familiarization).

However, post in a polite manner. The childish accusations and rude tone is nothing anyone needs and it neither helps the players nor the devs.

Edited by Dreepa, 23 April 2013 - 07:11 AM.






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