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[moderatepudding]

im seriously applying for clan wolf here. i havent played this game in like 3 months or something but i was the best mechwarrior around, ask p much anyone from the word of lowtax

[Jarl Dane]

moderatepudding, on 25 October 2013 - 03:10 PM, said:

im seriously applying for clan wolf here. i havent played this game in like 3 months or something but i was the best mechwarrior around, ask p much anyone from the word of lowtax

You're clearly trolling them. You know it, they know, and the forum moderator probably knows it.
Spirit of the law versus letter of the law. It is obvious what you're doing. Just leave Clan Wolf alone and let them go about their bussiness.

[WX Gunny Sa KhAN]

As Sa Khan Clan Wolf for those that know me , I rarely troll forums as i don't personally care for trash talking in any sense. but since I am someone who is Involved on the recruitment process I must say that I fully agree with the moderator at this point and anything beyond discussing Clan recruitment in this thread or trying to mislead it off recruitment topic should not be tolerated within the recruitment thread .l ..I tell our Wolves You are what you do when it counts ....Any system shall change in such a way as to approach equilibrium and the only thing Necessary for evil Inner sphere freebiirth to thrive is for Clan wolf to stand and do nothing ..... We Stand united as Wolves and Clanners on this subject and I am sure one who's name has been mentioned will enjoy hearing the outcome of this situation when he has woken from his sleep, Overwhelming duties as lore-master, also a Gaming community Wizard he rarely gets any sleep in his Old age : Interesting in the least, ... Please keep clan wolf recruitment to recruitment based questions only, As this is a well moderated forum for good reason and if recruitment into Clan wolf was easy then we wouldn't be so saught after when approaching clan thinking patterns ... One pack one mind Unit thinking .. Good Luck all

Edited by WX Gunny Sa KhAN, 25 October 2013 - 04:27 PM.

[divinedisclaimer]

Destined, on 25 October 2013 - 03:01 PM, said:

I see you are having some problems with your reading comprehension. Let's quote what I actually said:


In no part did I say asking about policies is a bannable offense. Trolling and derailing a thread is though. Go ahead, ask away.

Here's the thing, I'm not trolling. Trolling involves invoking derision deliberately. Some of the posters that took this extremely embarrassing train-wreck and ran with it, and you know I can see why you'd delete those posts.

The thing is, when I joined Clan Wolf what I found was an abusive administrative structure geared specifically to demean the new members by forcing them to take part in ridiculous and pointless rituals; rituals that have nothing to do with the game and do nothing but make the game less fun for both the enemy team that organized 12 players with intent to play the game and the new members who may attempt, once each week, to team-kill three of their clan-mates consecutively to earn some arbitrary title and therefore power over other, newer members.

If you read my original post, there's no trash talking at all; just whistle-blowing. It's a bad clan because they make their new members do stupid stuff they shouldn't have to do. Clan Wolf doesn't have your fun in mind, they're a bunch of people power-tripping over controlling newbies and frankly when I've gotten tied up in groups like that in the past it's ruined games completely for me.

So it's more like a warning, or perhaps a bad review. I joined, they banned me before I could say anything; for asking why they intentionally team-kill- and without any chance to make amends, just because I post on the most prolific and well-moderated message board on the internet.

You can't have a new joiner treated like literal garbage and then just pretend it didn't happen and expect no bad reviews. That's my experience with Clan Wolf, being banned unilaterally without doing anything wrong a day after bothering to join and it's totally relevant to this thread.

Edited by divinedisclaimer, 25 October 2013 - 05:01 PM.

[Literally]

Destined, on 25 October 2013 - 03:01 PM, said:

In no part did I say asking about policies is a bannable offense. Trolling and derailing a thread is though. Go ahead, ask away.

Since Destined, a PGI Community Representative, has stated above that asking about recruitment policies in this thread is not a bannable offense, let's move away from the name-calling and get back on topic.

Here are some questions about Clan Wolf's policies:
1) Will the leaders of Clan Wolf post here and personally clarify the question of this thread?
2) Is it the policy of Clan Wolf to intentionally teamkill and violate the CoC?
3) Since your website states that Clan Wolf members are to teamkill certain players on sight, how can new recruits be sure that they will not be required to teamkill in violation of the Mechwarrior CoC?
4) Will you modify the Clan Wolf Code of Conduct to state that teamkilling is not acceptable?

Thank you for taking the time to address our questions about Clan Wolf policies, which Destined has stated are allowed and do not constitute a bannable offense. It is important to address questions such as these, especially where your potential recruits can see them. It would be good for the MWO community to see Clan Wolf assure us that it intends to follow PGI's CoC in the future. Elected leaders of Clan Wolf, please give your answers to our concerns about your policies in a timely fashion.

Revision: Mr. WX Gunny, it is good to hear from you.

WX Gunny Sa KhAN said:

.l ..I tell our Wolves You are what you do when it counts ....Any system shall change in such a way as to approach equilibrium

I am not sure what any of this means, but since you claim to be in a Clan Wolf leadership position, could you answer the above questions for us?

[moderatepudding]

Mech The Dane, on 25 October 2013 - 03:16 PM, said:

You're clearly trolling them. You know it, they know, and the forum moderator probably knows it.
Spirit of the law versus letter of the law. It is obvious what you're doing. Just leave Clan Wolf alone and let them go about their bussiness.

ive said, several times now, that i am being completely unironic and serious. i want to join clan wolf

[Errodien]

1. See Following...

2. No. Never has been and never will be. The 'evidence' you use against us in this regard was a simple food in mouth RP by one of our members.

3. Still have yet to see anything in regards to requirements to teamkill someone.

4. No. It should go without saying as it is already a part of the games own CoC.



You do not speak for the MWO community as a whole. I leave it to each individual person to make up their own minds in regards to our units standing in good faith. Since I have taken the time to answer your 'concerns' that you have, I see no reason to continue discussion about them. People will make up their own minds as to our conduct.

Good Day.

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ive said, several times now, that i am being completely unironic and serious. i want to join clan wolf

I've said, a single time now, that I am being completely unironic and serious. Your request to join Clan Wolf has been denied.

kthxbai.

[Texas Merc]

Serious q here.

How many Clan wolfs are there?

I notice u guys use the .info tag for your website.

I ask because I know of other Btech games that I have played that had Clan Wolf in them and unless you guys are using different names in this game I don't recognize a single one of you, so therefore you must be imposters , i.e. DEZGRA

I will edit to add that I am going to jump into some old IRC channels and dig up some guys to ask them because even though m pudding wants to join I have to, in clear conscience, make sure pudding gets in with the right folks.

double edit to add my old names arent the same as this one in MWO.


VVVVV: also not trollbaiting here just wanting to know if you guys are from the old school games because then I would know alot of you, maybe Pudding and I could be like a combo deal (honestly these Liao guys are the worst).

Edited by Texas Merc, 25 October 2013 - 07:02 PM.

[Silent]

Clan Wolf roleplays trials and other Clan events in game, so isn't it safe to assume if this kill list is also roleplaying that it would also be enacted within the game against people?

[P e n u m b r a]

can I see the video proof of us aimbotting and shooting through walls proof you say you recorded?

[Texas Merc]

Which Clan Wolf though?


If I can't be part of the Waco Rangers why does Clan Wulf get to have a thread?

Are we only limiting the unit names that can't be claimed only to IS units?

I need an explanation for this.

Also, as an update, no one I talked with has ever heard of you guys?

Yet you claim CW? I think we need some sort of trial to figure this out. (hopefully not involving teamkilling).

Edited by Texas Merc, 26 October 2013 - 01:19 AM.

[CyclonerM]

Texas Merc, on 26 October 2013 - 01:18 AM, said:

Which Clan Wolf though?


If I can't be part of the Waco Rangers why does Clan Wulf get to have a thread?

Are we only limiting the unit names that can't be claimed only to IS units?

I need an explanation for this.

Also, as an update, no one I talked with has ever heard of you guys?

Yet you claim CW? I think we need some sort of trial to figure this out. (hopefully not involving teamkilling).

Because the invading Clans are factions and treated like Great Houses. They will be implemented in CW as factions; being able to run canon units which are part of factions is something still in design.

As far as we know Clan names will be equally banned like IS canon names and this is very sad IMHO.

[Errodien]

Literally, on 26 October 2013 - 01:06 AM, said:

Mr. Errodien,
Thank you for taking the time to reply to my inquiries as to how Clan Wolf handles recruitment. We at the Word of Lowtax have taken time in the past to help other clans with their recruitment, most notably in the case of St. Ives. We maintain a close relationship with those clans that we refer members to, and we consider this an important function since there are many players who enjoy playing with us but are not prepared to fully integrate into our insular culture.
Could you please forward my previous questions to your superiors at Clan Wolf? It would be best if the MWO community could all see an official answer from someone in a leadership position at Clan Wolf.


If you were in a leadership position, and authorized to answer, on behalf of Clan Wolf, the questions I have asked, then you would already know that your answers and assumptions are entirely incorrect:


It is understood that Clan Wolf recruits are expected to commit teamkills. Here is a screenshot of the website of Clan Wolf:

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Please bring my questions regarding Clan Wolf recruitment and policies to the attention of someone who at the very least uses the Clan Wolf website. Preferably someone who can speak for Clan Wolf.

As a commanding officer of the unit, I do have the privilege of speaking for the unit. My answers to your 'concerns' are valid and forthcoming. Your screenshot shows me nothing saying there is a requirement for teamkilling. I suspect you are just reading too far into the 'kill on sight' portion. Perhaps it could be worded better? But that is not for me to change, only the webmaster. Clan Wolf has no need for your assistance in our recruitment; we are doing just fine by ourselves.

Now that I have reiterated our position again, I will assume the discussion is over.

Good Day.

[Naglinator]

A) I LOVE Pugs. B)Pugs are AWESOME and Clan Wolf is pretty sweet. You have many people to drop with anytime you want, 4 mans, 12 mans, whatever you guys like. Good organization, pretty website... and if you're REALLY lucky, you may be even able to drop with THE NAG himself Come check us out!

Edited by Naglinator, 26 October 2013 - 09:42 AM.

[Silent]

Errodien, on 26 October 2013 - 07:17 AM, said:

As a commanding officer of the unit, I do have the privilege of speaking for the unit. My answers to your 'concerns' are valid and forthcoming. Your screenshot shows me nothing saying there is a requirement for teamkilling. I suspect you are just reading too far into the 'kill on sight' portion. Perhaps it could be worded better? But that is not for me to change, only the webmaster. Clan Wolf has no need for your assistance in our recruitment; we are doing just fine by ourselves.

Now that I have reiterated our position again, I will assume the discussion is over.

Good Day.

Well if the screenshot shows you nothing then what about the recording posted earlier in the thread on page 8? You know the recording that says all the various Clan Wolf units share a kill on sight list of names that are to be killed even if they are on your team and encountered in game?

I would imagine it's fine though, I mean you got guys like THE NAG here that can probably carry an entire team on their shoulders if you're down two or three people because of teamkilling.

Edited by Silent, 26 October 2013 - 10:24 AM.

[moderatepudding]

i dont know who this "nag" guy is but you just said that i should check clan wolf out except they already told me i cant join???????? whats the deal

[PLEXI]

Silent, on 26 October 2013 - 10:23 AM, said:

Well if the screenshot shows you nothing then what about the recording posted earlier in the thread on page 8?

This question was already addressed in an earlier post by Errodien.

Errodien, on 25 October 2013 - 06:25 PM, said:

2. No. Never has been and never will be. The 'evidence' you use against us in this regard was a simple food in mouth RP by one of our members.

The concerns postulated in the last few days have been addressed by an senior member, and have made the Clan's official position clear on the matter. Further discussion of this specific subject is unnecessary.

[Silent]

So far the only thing that Clan Wolf has made clear is that they are terrible at damage control.

Edited by Silent, 27 October 2013 - 06:39 AM.

[divinedisclaimer]

Errodien, on 25 October 2013 - 06:25 PM, said:

1. See Following...

2. No. Never has been and never will be. The 'evidence' you use against us in this regard was a simple food in mouth RP by one of our members.

What? Why is it on your website then, and why was I permanently banned only for asking about it? You guys couldn't seriously get your collective heads out of your butts to undo one undeserved ban to prove you aren't total jerks?

I mean I'm a pretty good player, you're missing out.

Literally, on 26 October 2013 - 01:06 AM, said:

Here is a screenshot of the website of Clan Wolf:

Here is a screenshot of Clan Wolf shooting their own team in the back:

http://i.imgur.com/hAkzaOk.jpg

I also find it interesting that you don't wear clan badges; like every other role-playing clan. Almost like you don't want people to know who you are in-game.

Edited by divinedisclaimer, 28 October 2013 - 06:06 AM.

[Nekki Basara]

Errodien, on 26 October 2013 - 07:17 AM, said:

Your screenshot shows me nothing saying there is a requirement for teamkilling. I suspect you are just reading too far into the 'kill on sight' portion. Perhaps it could be worded better?

An obvious clarification on the policy would be to explain just what "kill on sight" means. Obviously if a name appears on the dezgra list and then is on the opposing team you are going to try to kill them, but what if they are on your team? Is it an entirely redundant list? Also, why is the list not public anymore?