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[Historic]

This game is starting to get a bit out of control with aimboters

I would like to ask the Dev's what if any actions are they taking to stop this.
I'm not gonna run fraps full time on the chance I will catch one as posting it on forums just gets you a ban.
So I ask the skilled players out there to show the Dev's we need this.

[Victor Morson]

Historic, on 25 April 2013 - 12:30 PM, said:

This game is starting to get a bit out of control with aimboters

I would like to ask the Dev's what if any actions are they taking to stop this.
I'm not gonna run fraps full time on the chance I will catch one as posting it on forums just gets you a ban.
So I ask the skilled players out there to show the Dev's we need this.

Haven't run into a single aim bot yet, and I am staunchly opposed to all traditional anti-cheat systems. The only good one is VAC. Punkbuster just randomly executes people to make the pubs happy, while being circumvented entirely by anyone that actually wants to cheat.

[IceSerpent]

Victor Morson, on 25 April 2013 - 01:13 PM, said:

Haven't run into a single aim bot yet

I have it on good authority that some folks have run into aimbots right after seeing that yeti on the frozen city map. Some even claim to have been abducted and subsequently abused by those aimbots.

[Hammerfinn]

I have logged a lot of games, and I've never seen an aimbot. I've seen some damn lucky shots, and some bugged projectile vagrancies, but no aimbots. I did find that yeti, btw---it's just above the Madcat frozen in the ice-wall!

Edited by Hammerfinn, 25 April 2013 - 02:13 PM.

[Wintersdark]

Again with the "omahergd! Someone headshot me from 700m they must be cheating" sad little posts.

Seriously, it's not even difficult to pop someone at that range with a single shot, trivially easy if they stand still. I get one shot cockpittings even entirely accidentally fairly often with my highlanders.

[Hellcat420]

are you sure you just havent gone up against someone with the advanced zoom? when in longrange fights it can seem like someone has aimbot when they are really just using the gxp zoom thing and you are not.

Edited by Hellcat420, 25 April 2013 - 04:25 PM.

[SirLANsalot]

Wintersdark, on 25 April 2013 - 02:46 PM, said:

Again with the "omahergd! Someone headshot me from 700m they must be cheating" sad little posts.

Seriously, it's not even difficult to pop someone at that range with a single shot, trivially easy if they stand still. I get one shot cockpittings even entirely accidentally fairly often with my highlanders.

Even I have done that myself. But its getting hit at that range (1km+) in CT or same location 2 or 3 times, while moving, from the same person, that it gets questionable. I can hit mechs with PPC/Gauss, even AC20's at 800m with ease but not always the same location. Out at 1km is where things get fuzzy in range, since you need to lead, and predict there going to get there to get hit by the shots.

[3rdworld]

Sure, implement an anti-cheat.

At least if there was one, I might not get accused of aimbotting any more.

[Kraven Kor]

I've seen some stuff that makes me scratch my head, but nothing that was just undeniably a hack or cheat.

I do want them to do whatever they can to prevent hacks and cheating, but I also dislike punkbuster. It's like its own little rootkit, really, almost impossible to remove if you end up not playing games that need it or if it conflicts with something. Although I have not had problems with that recently, I remember maddening problems with it 5+ years ago.

[FinnMcKool]

I saw a Big Foot once.

Really!

[Roadbeer]

Bad, biased poll.
Instantly assumes that anyone who doesn't think there is a cheating problem is cheating.
Not voting, but not mocking yet... waiting on poll to be fixed.

[Wintersdark]

I'm not sure how much good traditional anticheat measures will be in a server authorative game like this. Keep in mind most multilayer games are client authorative (Wow, CoD, etc) and as such need software running on your pc to monitor the client.

Hacking the client in MWO is much less useful, as the server doesn't really care where your client says you are.

That said, I'd imagine aimbots probably do exist... But I would put a large amount of hard cash down that 99% of the people who get accused of running aimbots aren't.

At 1km, i'll still hit CT on moving assaults most of the time, assuming they are more or less facing me (which is usually the case).

It's not hard at all, particularly now we have HSR going on. If I ignore "bad" shots, ones used for suppression or fired through or around cover, or at erratically moving fast targets? I'll put ballistic shells pretty much exactly where I want them.

Starting in river city at the dropship, I'll plug mechs at the opposing spawn point immediately: jump, pop erppc bolts into center torsos. They don't do a lot of damage at that range, but they do get people's attention.



I don't mean the above as bragging either. I'm decent, but there are very, very many people here far better than me.

So, if I find 1km shots reasonably simple, there's a whole lot of people who'll do much better.

[Ryvucz]

If I die, it must be because of an aimbot.

[Historic]

If I lucky shot cool if there is anti cheat then it is a lucky NICE SHOT THATS WHAT I'M SAYING


Google aimbot MWO join site see how many members they have, then sort it the **** out PGI

Edited by Historic, 27 April 2013 - 05:40 AM.

[heimdelight]

It's really not hard to find the website to aimbot with on google search. I'm guessing if Historic posts any information on the website address he may get a ban. Not only that, but if he even posts a conversation between him and PGI saying that PGI is unwilling to take any action towards these cheaters he will face a ban.

Basically, he's trying to say there is an aimbotting community and this is the only way he can tell us. According to PGI, we cannot post the link to the website or post the conversation Historic had with PGI to say not only are they willing to ban for trying to prove there is an aimbotting community, but they are also willing to ban for posting a private conversation showing that PGI is unwilling to take action.

There are most definitely aimbotters in this game. To all those who think otherwise you're looking at the nature of any gaming community way too idealistically.

[heimdelight]

I don't necessarily even want Anti-Cheat software. There is a really obvious aimbotting community that is easily accessible to anyone (literally, google search it), and if PGI wants to ban upon divulging any info to prove there is aimbotting/or show the inaction theyre willing to take, what are we to do?

[shabowie]

Investigate and take action please.

Pay cheats hurt competitive play, it's the real pay to win. I hope something will be done by PGI.

Edited by shabowie, 27 April 2013 - 06:09 AM.

[8CH Trooper]

I have been gaming a long time and have seen my share of aimbots, wall hacks, speed hacks etc. I did a Google search this morning and found 5 web sites offering MWO hacks without even trying, to say that there are no aimbots in MWO is incredibly naive, and given PGI's reluctance to address this issue should be no surprise to anyone that has been playing MWO for awhile.

[Fatbat]

There is a pay aimbot site out there with an aimbot built for MWO on it that has nearly 300 people who have supposedly used it. Yes there are aimbots in this game, and yes, something should be done about them.

[Historic]

Ryvucz, on 25 April 2013 - 06:33 PM, said:

If I die, it must be because of an aimbot.

No one is saying that, anti cheat help the whole hurts the few deal with it