16 replies to this topic

[TheSteelRhino]

Because, it's like REALLY unfun.

Poptarts and I mean Cataphracts and Highlanders EVERYWHERE.

Seriously BORING games. You either have a heavy or assault that can jump or blazing fast light. Otherwise you are just dead. It's gotten ridiculous. There is no skill. Winning is about biggest mechs with biggest guns, and jumpjets.

BORING. no innovation happening AT ALL.

Now, PGI will say the "novelty" will where off. with jump jets and Highlanders. You don't have time to always let this happen. People get sick of it.

I would submit..I'm actually disgusted with this game right now. And I typically TRY to be a supporter of PGI's tuning efforts.

I don't want to run assaults, and I don't want to run lights. I WANT to run the woefully under powered medium mechs.

So ..what happened to this game?

-Double armor resulted in an ARMS race.
-This led to LOWERED heat on weapons, to actually do any damage, people typically run multiples of certain weapons types..ie BOATING.
Boating is part of battletech, and I don't think it should be banned. But I've been seeing 6 PPC/ERPPC stalkers. Really? That thing should just EXPLODE immediately the first time it tries to alpha strike due to the heat.
-Jump jets produce no heat, and no vibration, ..no..."g's" throwing the pilot back? Can we at least have limited reaction mass for jump jets. (You don't just get "plasma" without reaction mass).

No economy or repair costs leads to XL engines, advanced tech, and assault mechs everywhere.

I hope you guys have some sort of ideas. B/c if I were a new player right now.. I wouldn't come back.

I'm planning to start playing less in the hopes that you can balance some of this stuff out. Otherwise I'm going to end up hating it.

Just saying

[NextGame]

I've run into several devs while playing, so yes, they do.

[Lord de Seis]

I have been playing the last two nights in pretty much nothing but hunchbacks and have been doing well by myself and in groups. The PPC fest/poptarting seems to be less extreme with the contest being over but it is definitely more present in group games.

[aniviron]

I take issue with a few points of your post, but the doubled armor thing especially irks me. As though normal armor values wouldn't result in an arms race. If we had TT armor values, every single person in the game would run an ac40/ppc boat, because you could one-shot anything short of an assault, given how aiming works vs how it works in TT.

[DeadlyNerd]

aniviron, on 25 April 2013 - 10:14 PM, said:

I take issue with a few points of your post, but the doubled armor thing especially irks me. As though normal armor values wouldn't result in an arms race. If we had TT armor values, every single person in the game would run an ac40/ppc boat, because you could one-shot anything short of an assault, given how aiming works vs how it works in TT.

IF we had normal armor PGI wouldn't be balancing weapons and heat but the HP system.
Putting a PPC instead of a ML should be prohibited by the HP system due to critical slot difference. Then we wouldn't be having all these high alpha builds because few canon builds actually allow for multiple gausses,PPCs or AC20s.

[Straften]

Roadbeer seems to be asleep now

so I'll fill in...

This thread is NEW and EXCITING!

But for realzees

You are beta testing this game

And they are fixing the game

Also I will see you soon in

KAETETôã

[Deathlike]

PGI does play this game.

However, most of them are not that good at their own game. See MG citations (you'll never catch a dev using something that wickedly underpowered).

[Plavis]

Rhinehardt Ritter, on 25 April 2013 - 09:44 PM, said:

Because, it's like REALLY unfun.

Poptarts and I mean Cataphracts and Highlanders EVERYWHERE.

Seriously BORING games. You either have a heavy or assault that can jump or blazing fast light. Otherwise you are just dead. It's gotten ridiculous. There is no skill. Winning is about biggest mechs with biggest guns, and jumpjets.

BORING. no innovation happening AT ALL.

Now, PGI will say the "novelty" will where off. with jump jets and Highlanders. You don't have time to always let this happen. People get sick of it.

I would submit..I'm actually disgusted with this game right now. And I typically TRY to be a supporter of PGI's tuning efforts.

I don't want to run assaults, and I don't want to run lights. I WANT to run the woefully under powered medium mechs.

So ..what happened to this game?

-Double armor resulted in an ARMS race.
-This led to LOWERED heat on weapons, to actually do any damage, people typically run multiples of certain weapons types..ie BOATING.
Boating is part of battletech, and I don't think it should be banned. But I've been seeing 6 PPC/ERPPC stalkers. Really? That thing should just EXPLODE immediately the first time it tries to alpha strike due to the heat.
-Jump jets produce no heat, and no vibration, ..no..."g's" throwing the pilot back? Can we at least have limited reaction mass for jump jets. (You don't just get "plasma" without reaction mass).

No economy or repair costs leads to XL engines, advanced tech, and assault mechs everywhere.

I hope you guys have some sort of ideas. B/c if I were a new player right now.. I wouldn't come back.

I'm planning to start playing less in the hopes that you can balance some of this stuff out. Otherwise I'm going to end up hating it.

Just saying

Back when this was LRM online and the jegger came out i fielded the flak, a penta ac2 it was built to kill LRM boats beyong LRM range, now its poptart online a slight modification to the Flak now i can bring it in close range and tear poptarts to bits, under 100m poptarts big alpha guns dosent mater my litle 2 dps sutained dmg will chew them up, now people are whining about the rapidfiring penta ac2 but its not realy rapid firing its just stager firing them and firing them slightly deleyed but you know how whiners are they will complain about anything.

[Hythos]

Hard-point restrictions, setting limits to the number of a weapon-type, or impementing a penalty for 'boating' like extra heat when firing all...
IS NOT BATTLETECH / MECHWARRIOR.

This game is fine. Learn how the system is intended to work, or play something else.
I personally would much rather see fewer people playing MWO than to have a system that is farther from BT/MW (for anyone that knows "MW" as Modern Warefare and NOT MechWarrior, this is directed at you) and instead, more like anything else out there.

I have faith that PGI will do fhe right thing.

[Victor Morson]

Sure they do!

http://youtu.be/_QOziJqk3ug

EDIT: Also, broken record here, but PPC/Gauss are fine. The reason they are dominating is that missiles got nerf'ed and other weapons are inferior/weak (LBX/10, most pulse, etc.) Once those are fixed, you'll see a whole new metagame.

People are too quick to blame one thing without thinking it through.

Edited by Victor Morson, 26 April 2013 - 12:54 AM.

[TheSteelRhino]

Guess my buddies and I got into some wierd ELO thing. Nothing but poptarts for a few hours str. (Probably 5 of 8 or more every time)
Here is my opinion. I signed up for mechwarrrior. I expect it to be based off mechwarrior/battletech. Which it is supposed to be. But ALL weight classes have to be viable

If i irked you. Too bad my opinion. And it stands. It has become an arms race. Double armour completely screwed up this game

Yes they play the game, b/c i have seen them. Maybe they need to artificially adjust their elo to see what is going

[Loler skates]

Straften, on 25 April 2013 - 11:32 PM, said:

Roadbeer seems to be asleep now so I'll fill in... This thread is NEW and EXCITING! But for realzees You are beta testing this game And they are fixing the game Also I will see you soon in KAETETôã

Dear god, the trolls are like cockroaches.. Stomp one and a hundred more appear.

[Mongoose Trueborn]

Wait, I thought ECM was OP? Was that last month?

[Victor Morson]

Mongoose Trueborn, on 26 April 2013 - 04:18 AM, said:

Wait, I thought ECM was OP? Was that last month?

The moment they fix missiles people will forget PPCs as they move on to complain about them, probably in error.

[Son of Horus]

Based on what I'm seeing as well in this edition of Sniper Online, it seems to me that no Assault class mech in this incarnation of the game, should have jump jets, just my humble two cents.

[Wildman13]

I'm leveling up my Hunchbacks and having zero problems earning over 100k cbills and over 500 exp per match. I use cover and advance to brawling range, brawl, and usually die. I'm also usually in the top 3-5 of damage and top 2-3 in kills/assists.

I'm really not that good, and I'm having fun. I see some poptarts occasionally but I really don't understand how so many people can cry about an open beta game that's free unless you choose to buy something.

[Dakkath]

Sorry closing thread, this is neither a poll nor a suggestion.
Please stick to the forum rules when posting.
much appreciated.
-Dak