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[Tickdoff Tank]

302 drops in Jenners. 2 kills, 278 deaths. 3 wins.

Anyone able to beat that?

Which is highly amusing to me, my Spider stats are: 272 drops, 193 wins, 306 kills, 192 deaths. I am stunned that I do that much better in a spider than the jenner.

(I have reasonable stats in my other mechs, especially my phracts and hunchies, and I am not much of a poptart either)

[Belorion]

At least you can say its not for a lack of trying.

Jenners just aren't your thing.

[Ialti]

You make me want to buy a jenner, just to see if I can compete.

[Papaspud]

Tickdoff Tank, on 24 April 2013 - 06:58 PM, said:

302 drops in Jenners. 2 kills, 278 deaths. 3 wins.

Anyone able to beat that?

I think this qualifies as in the steering wheel underhive. I would think it would be very hard to only get 3 wins out of 300 games, heck your team should be to carry you some of the times, what are you running around taking off a little armor here and there from your team mates? . As far as only 2 kills, well......................

[One Medic Army]

I am highly impressed, dare I ask what loadout(s) you use?

[TungstenWall]

Tickdoff Tank, on 24 April 2013 - 06:58 PM, said:

302 drops in Jenners. 2 kills, 278 deaths. 3 wins.

Anyone able to beat that?

Which is highly amusing to me, my Spider stats are: 272 drops, 193 wins, 306 kills, 192 deaths. I am stunned that I do that much better in a spider than the jenner.

(I have reasonable stats in my other mechs, especially my phracts and hunchies, and I am not much of a poptart either)

I assume you have a similar (yet more severe) issue I have. That is the ability (or lack there of) to fight in mechs with no arms. I recall when the only light mechs were Jenners and Commandos, and Jenners were far better at everything, but I could not master aiming with my torso, arms were just far to important to my success.

I would suggest attempting a Commando and see what kind of K/D ratio you get. If im right, you will end up with a K/D and W/L ratio just under that of your spider(s).

[Ingvay]

Interesting theory tungsten... reading your post made me realize that all the mechs I've piloted so far in game, all have arms.

Except 2 matches in a trail Raven. I felt I liked my Spiders better.

Arms definitely help with aiming, so I suspect your theory is correct.

[Tickdoff Tank]

double post

Edited by Tickdoff Tank, 24 April 2013 - 09:05 PM.

[Tickdoff Tank]

One Medic Army, on 24 April 2013 - 07:18 PM, said:

I am highly impressed, dare I ask what loadout(s) you use?

I have 3 Jenners and have used almost every possible build on them. When I am in a Jenner I can't even hit with SSRMs. And I do not understand why. The best match I have had in a Jenner was around 120 damage, most matches are about 50 total damage. I know I am not the best player around, but my stats in EVERY other mech is vastly superior to my stats in a Jenner.

[Tickdoff Tank]

TungstenWall, on 24 April 2013 - 07:33 PM, said:

I assume you have a similar (yet more severe) issue I have. That is the ability (or lack there of) to fight in mechs with no arms. I recall when the only light mechs were Jenners and Commandos, and Jenners were far better at everything, but I could not master aiming with my torso, arms were just far to important to my success.

I would suggest attempting a Commando and see what kind of K/D ratio you get. If im right, you will end up with a K/D and W/L ratio just under that of your spider(s).

My spider with 2 ML in the torso has a K/D of 2.1/1 and my Cent with 3 SRM6 and 2 ML has a K/D of 3.2/1. Most of my commando's are around 1.0-1.5/1 K/D. My Cicadas are also around 1.5/1 or so. My best mech is my 3D Cataphract (I have 2) one of them runs 2 AC10s and 4 ML, with a K/D of 4.57/1. (I run that 3D the most of all my mechs but occasionally run the other as a poptart)

I don't usually have issues hitting with torso mounted weapons. And, while I am not the best at high speed, I can hold my own in most fast movers. Unless it is a Jenner.

Edit: I don't have any Ravens to compare. 45 Mechbays only go so far.

One last thing, I am also a decent assault pilot most of the time. I was able to get up to 17th place (briefly) during the assault tournament mainly in my brawling Highlander and my Atlas DDC. So it is not a matter of being a noob or just completely horrible at this game. I think it is just the Jenner. It hates me.

Edited by Tickdoff Tank, 24 April 2013 - 09:09 PM.

[Bishop Steiner]

U make me feel better about my skills in a light mech. Slightly.

[SteelWarrior]

Tickdoff Tank, on 24 April 2013 - 08:42 PM, said:

I have 3 Jenners and have used almost every possible build on them. When I am in a Jenner I can't even hit with SSRMs. And I do not understand why. The best match I have had in a Jenner was around 120 damage, most matches are about 50 total damage. I know I am not the best player around, but my stats in EVERY other mech is vastly superior to my stats in a Jenner.

annddddd theres your problem right there. Taking SSRM on a mech that doesnt have an ecm to disrupt with. F varient. XL 245 engine. 6 medium lasers. 17 double heat sinks. I average 400+ damage every game of the week. I have been up to and including 900+ damage in a hand ful of matches. Also should mention my F varient is elite unlocked and still has some 34k exp left over. That being said the D and K are crap.

[Tickdoff Tank]

SteelWarrior, on 24 April 2013 - 09:10 PM, said:

annddddd theres your problem right there. Taking SSRM on a mech that doesnt have an ecm to disrupt with. F varient. XL 245 engine. 6 medium lasers. 17 double heat sinks. I average 400+ damage every game of the week. I have been up to and including 900+ damage in a hand ful of matches. Also should mention my F varient is elite unlocked and still has some 34k exp left over. That being said the D and K are crap.

I do not always run SSRMs on the Jenner, usually I have 2 SRM4s or an SRM6, depending on which Jenner we are talking about. I just listed the SSRMs to highlight my total lack of skill in a Jenner. Even in the era of ECM I should be doing more than 100 damage every once in a while. I also run a Trebuchet with 3 SSRM2s, LL and ML. I have done 900 damage with that mech, so it is not the SSRMs that are hurting me.

I have my F built almost the same as yours, still have not gotten a kill in it in around 75 or so drops. And I do not think I have topped 50 damage in the F either. The D is the one I have had the most luck (such as it is) in.

Edited by Tickdoff Tank, 24 April 2013 - 09:15 PM.

[Davers]

Wow OP. You have defied all the laws of probability with your W/L. Just think, you could have won the lotto, but instead you got this.

[SteelWarrior]

ill see if i can fraps a good game to show you how i roll

[Troutmonkey]

Do I win? JENNER JR7-D 133 72 61 1.18 91 78 1.17 32,044 71,699 11:57:31

[SteelWarrior]

sadly most of my game time was pre stats recording

[Kageru Ikazuchi]

Sounds like me in an Assault mech ...

I've only PUG'd so my experience is limited, but alone, a Jenner is scrap. With a pack of fast mechs (especially when that includes an ECM carrier), they punch above their weight. In a brawl, they can be exceptionally annoying, and an inexperienced heavy or assault pilot can get lured out into the open ... while this doesn't usually contribute to your own KDR, it can contribute to a win. You have to pick you battles carefully ... once you're outnumbered, run.

Since the proliferation of ECM+SSRM, JR7-D/K with SSRM is significantly less effective. I'm considering a support-focused JR7-K build (tricked out with BAP and sensor / targeting modules) with 4x ML and a XL300 engine (for when I start playing with a group). My JR7-F does great things with an XL300, 5x ML and TAG. I haven't figured out exactly what to do with my JR7-D that will use both missile slots, 4x ML, 2x SSRM and a XL280 at the moment, but I'm considering something with 2x SRM-4 ... not yet sure.

[Deathlike]

I swear, I should just be using the phase "you're doing it wrong".

There is a mentality that is required to use the Jenner effectively... you have to use it as a brawler, but more of the "smart brawling". Since you have the speed and mobility (JJs), you have to play kinda like a good 3L pilot, but not overplay that role since you don't have ECM.

Not every mech is built for every player....

[Curccu]

Screenshot or I will not believe that win ratio.

even with 7 vs 8 matches that team with 7 players should win more than 3 out of 302 games.