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[Fonix]

I feel like ive been conned out of my mc for buying the unlimited use paint pattern. I didnt realise it was unlimited use for one type of mech, I thought it could be used for all mechs. the normal price is 750 mc and 1 use is 75. that means with the unlimited use patterns you would only start saving if you used the pattern on more than 10 mechs. now if you can only use it on one type of mech, why in the world would you buy the unlimited if you can only have at most about 6 variants of a single type of mech (unless you bought multiples of the same mech which would be ********, buying different variants of the same mech is bad enough).

could piranha please put a hint somewhere that it can only be used for one type of mech, it was not clear at all what i was buying. (a refund would be nice too)

[MustrumRidcully]

You can decide to change the pattern of your mech. That means the previous one is lost forever.
Unless you buy the unlimited pattern. At least that's how I understand it.
If you're in the habit of changing your patterns more than once, this is useful.

[Voivode]

It's a crappy system. Not sure what they were thinking. It should be a universal unlock just the paint colors are.

[Corison]

Its been posted and stated MANY MANY times that Patterns are PER Mech type, be it single use or unlimited.

That being said, they have always had a HORRID ui for most things out of game, its getting better but does need some work.

My suggestion would be to take a few minutes to explain (politely) what you thought you were purchasing and what you did purchase. Then send it to the support alias (support@mwomercs.com.) The more information they get, the easier it is for them to prioritize were changes need to be made. In general crying in forums is only good for trolling, if you want anything useful you will need to contact support.

Good luck!

[slash b slash]

The devs stated that you will be able to make camo presets for each map for each of your Mechs' that will be automatically applied to your Mech' when you drop on said map. Meaning that you can drop with desert camo on desert maps, snow camo on snow maps, forest camo on forest maps, etc., if you so choose.
I wonder if you have to buy the single use camos for different maps over and over again if you want to use them on more than one map. I think that would make the permanent unlocks a lot more attractive.

[Tickdoff Tank]

slash b slash, on 28 April 2013 - 07:58 AM, said:

The devs stated that you will be able to make camo presets for each map for each of your Mechs' that will be automatically applied to your Mech' when you drop on said map. Meaning that you can drop with desert camo on desert maps, snow camo on snow maps, forest camo on forest maps, etc., if you so choose.
I wonder if you have to buy the single use camos for different maps over and over again if you want to use them on more than one map. I think that would make the permanent unlocks a lot more attractive.

Only problem with that is the fact that camo is almost useless for actually hiding your mech from the enemy.

[Bishop Steiner]

Fonix, on 28 April 2013 - 06:55 AM, said:

I feel like ive been conned out of my mc for buying the unlimited use paint pattern. I didnt realise it was unlimited use for one type of mech, I thought it could be used for all mechs. the normal price is 750 mc and 1 use is 75. that means with the unlimited use patterns you would only start saving if you used the pattern on more than 10 mechs. now if you can only use it on one type of mech, why in the world would you buy the unlimited if you can only have at most about 6 variants of a single type of mech (unless you bought multiples of the same mech which would be really dumb, buying different variants of the same mech is bad enough).

could piranha please put a hint somewhere that it can only be used for one type of mech, it was not clear at all what i was buying. (a refund would be nice too)

really? I quite rather understand it to mean Unlimited for that Chassis.


Let's see.... it says "JAGERMECH DAZZLE" unlock....... so obviously, if I unlock Jagermech Dazzle, that means it should work on my Atlas too, RIGHT?!??!?!?!

Read before you leap. ZThe fault is yours, not theirs.

As for the use of Unlimited? Simple. You buy single use, you get one pattern, one time, for that ONE variant of the Mech Chassis. You wan't to use that pattern on another variant? You buy again. OK... so 3-5 Mechs using that pattern doesn't justify 750Cbills...right? Until you decide on a whim to change the pattern on it to something else, you get bored, and you want it AGAIN. And Again, and Again.

If you are a one time, one variant only kind of guy, it makes no sense. If you repaint with any regularity, or change units with differing colors and patterns, then it makes a lot of sense.

[Stokes52]

slash b slash, on 28 April 2013 - 07:58 AM, said:

The devs stated that you will be able to make camo presets for each map for each of your Mechs' that will be automatically applied to your Mech' when you drop on said map. Meaning that you can drop with desert camo on desert maps, snow camo on snow maps, forest camo on forest maps, etc., if you so choose.

Really? Does anyone have a source for that. That is a feature I've been thinking about and hoping could be put in in the future. I have neglected to buy any camo till now because it looks especially ridiculousness when you're rocking your arctic paintjob in the forest or your forest paintjob in the desert. It just looks ridiculous.

Allowing different camo based on map would make me very happy. (And more likely to buy MC bills).

Edited by Stokes52, 28 April 2013 - 10:48 AM.

[DarkDevilDancer]

Its a vanity purchase that you dont actually need, they need to fund the game some how and people that want a fancy looking mech will be willing to pay.

If you dont like the price dont pay it basically.

Its made clear the camo is per class its not PGI's fault you didnt read up first.

[Purplefluffybunny]

My advice? Wait until the game systems are more finalised before spending MC and your hard earned dollars/euros/sterling/etc.

Camo is far more than just a vanity item IMO. There is a clear tactical advantage to having your mech blend into the background. Granted, this only really works with an ECM unit nearby or having that module equipped.

Edited by Purplefluffybunny, 28 April 2013 - 12:36 PM.

[Durant Carlyle]

A one-use pattern disappears forever the second you save another pattern on top of it. Poof, there goes your 75 MC.

Most people who buy patterns don't just buy a pattern and leave it that way for eternity. They buy a different pattern and try that. Then they buy another one and see what reaction that gets. Hell, getting reactions from other players is half the fun of colors and patterns. It is far more economical to buy a pattern you like for unlimited usage on a certain 'Mech than it would be to keep buying single-use ones after trying something new.

[Corvus Antaka]

sucker!

yeah its expensive and nearly pointless.

[Pater Mors]

Just out of curiosity, if I buy the single use pattern, is that single use for one fight? Or is it permanent on only that single chassis? If it's the latter, I might actually think about buying one. From the wording to me it looked like a one time use thing like Consumables, but I am getting the impression that's not the case.

[Bishop Steiner]

Pater Mors, on 28 April 2013 - 06:58 PM, said:

Just out of curiosity, if I buy the single use pattern, is that single use for one fight? Or is it permanent on only that single chassis? If it's the latter, I might actually think about buying one. From the wording to me it looked like a one time use thing like Consumables, but I am getting the impression that's not the case.

It's permanent on that one mech, UNTIL you change it. So yeah, if you have a scheme you like and such, go for it. But if you ever change it, it's gone for good.

[Pater Mors]

Bishop Steiner, on 28 April 2013 - 07:01 PM, said:

It's permanent on that one mech, UNTIL you change it. So yeah, if you have a scheme you like and such, go for it. But if you ever change it, it's gone for good.

Ah I see. I am reasonably certain that there is only one set I like anyway so I will have a look tonight. Generally once I get set on something, I don't change it easily. For 75MC that's not as bad a deal as I first thought. Cheers mate.

[Deathlike]

The answer to your question is always this:

[slash b slash]

Stokes52, on 28 April 2013 - 10:47 AM, said:

Really? Does anyone have a source for that. That is a feature I've been thinking about and hoping could be put in in the future. I have neglected to buy any camo till now because it looks especially ridiculousness when you're rocking your arctic paintjob in the forest or your forest paintjob in the desert. It just looks ridiculous.

Allowing different camo based on map would make me very happy. (And more likely to buy MC bills).

Ask the Devs 32

Bryan Ekman said:

Ghost Bear: Any chance you guys can add the ability to set camo/paint set to certain map types… like snow = one set of player set camo, desert = second set of camo, forest = third
A: Yes. We’re planning to add this with upcoming DropShip capabilities.

I could imagine that for each preset you would have to buy one single use camo each, so you are able to drop with a camo on each of the different maps, otherwise you drop with green standard camo. That way they could milk people for their MC and the price for permanent camo patterns would seem less steep.

Edited by slash b slash, 30 April 2013 - 08:58 AM.

[MeiSooHaityu]

Fonix, on 28 April 2013 - 06:53 AM, said:

I feel like ive been conned out of my mc for buying the unlimited use paint pattern. I didnt realise it was unlimited use for one type of mech, I thought it could be used for all mechs. the normal price is 750 mc and 1 use is 75. that means with the unlimited use patterns you would only start saving if you used the pattern on more than 10 mechs. now if you can only use it on one type of mech, why in the world would you buy the unlimited if you can only have at most about 6 variants of a single type of mech (unless you bought multiples of the same mech which would be ********, buying different variants of the same mech is bad enough).

could piranha please put a hint somewhere that it can only be used for one type of mech, it was not clear at all what i was buying. (a refund would be nice too)

Yea, I made that mistake too.

Edited by MeiSooHaityu, 30 April 2013 - 09:45 AM.

[Rackminster]

To the OP: The signs were perfectly clear to me, as it has been to others. Don't know what to say - the developers clearly tried to say "This only applies to this Mech" as far as I can tell.

I prefer to run the 'newbie green' so I don't stand out. I love finding someone who's invested real money in making themselves a clearer target. "Oh, that's the same Red & White Atlas that I worked the leg down to orange on. I'll just pluck that leg immediately, before my targeting computer even has to remind me to..."

All that said, if paint were universal (so the mechanics in my Mech Bay didn't just build shelves of paint only for one Mech) I'd buy into it. Patterns I don't mind unlocking - but there are TOO many paint colors and they're all outrageously expensive for casual players...

I've gladly dropped $170 on the game so far with every intent to continue in $50 increments, and you'll never catch me buying Paint, Decals, Interior Items, and Patterns for the costs they are now. I'd start considering it if it were 1/3 of what it is and I'd probably start buying it at 1/4 of the cost that it is - and then ONLY if it were all permanent and swappable.

Edited by Rackminster, 30 April 2013 - 10:04 AM.

[slash b slash]

Rackminster, on 30 April 2013 - 10:03 AM, said:

To the OP: The signs were perfectly clear to me, as it has been to others. Don't know what to say - the developers clearly tried to say "This only applies to this Mech" as far as I can tell.

I prefer to run the 'newbie green' so I don't stand out. I love finding someone who's invested real money in making themselves a clearer target. "Oh, that's the same Red & White Atlas that I worked the leg down to orange on. I'll just pluck that leg immediately, before my targeting computer even has to remind me to..."

All that said, if paint were universal (so the mechanics in my Mech Bay didn't just build shelves of paint only for one Mech) I'd buy into it. Patterns I don't mind unlocking - but there are TOO many paint colors and they're all outrageously expensive for casual players...

I've gladly dropped $170 on the game so far with every intent to continue in $50 increments, and you'll never catch me buying Paint, Decals, Interior Items, and Patterns for the costs they are now. I'd start considering it if it were 1/3 of what it is and I'd probably start buying it at 1/4 of the cost that it is - and then ONLY if it were all permanent and swappable.

You already traded $170 real dollars for their imaginary Disney dollars (MC). They don't care what you spend your MC on or even if you spend it. They already have your hard currency while you're left with currency that can only be spent in their store.