125 replies to this topic

[coolcook007]

This game becomes to pay to win. This mech has AC, every other Stalker cant have it. What do you think?

[FlyingTurtle]

The reason they make hero mechs' is not to make pay to win gods, but to make an alterniative playstyle for said mech.

The Misery is not going to beat any other stalker instantly just cause of AC's.

If you want AC's get an atlas.

And if you think different players having different capabilities is wrong, go play COD...

[MasterBLB]

[Redacted]
No other mech in game have such big side torso,which means your ballistic weapon won't last long.Where is P2W in that,could you explain?Maybe you say as well that X-5 is P2W too as it has missile hardpoints while the other cicadas haven't?

Edited by MasterBLB, 09 May 2013 - 03:34 AM.

[Kell Commander]

They have not yet released a hero mech with a hard point layout that is overwhelmingly better than a non-hero mech yet. I would be very surprised if this were to happen here even if it's the only stalker with ballistic hard points. Oh by the way, Highlander has better twist radius, turn radius, lower arm actuators AND ballistic points so no, this Stalker will be no where near overpowered.

[Nehkrosis]

Total crap.

Hero mechs are in no way instantly superior to the standard variants.
A different hard-point/slot allocation, paint scheme, name and XP and C-bill bonus serve only to make the game have a little more variety.

i do not fear hero variants more than other mechs.

[GoManGo]

My stalker is a fat pig and slow dang mech I really hate it the mechs are so slow anyways I cant see people buying these hero mechs unless your having to much $USD in your pockets. Maybe if the new FatBoy Stalker moved like a fast medium I would buy one OW hahaha we have no real fast mediums my bad.

[FlyingTurtle]

GoManGo, on 05 May 2013 - 06:45 AM, said:

My stalker is a fat pig and slow dang mech I really hate it the mechs are so slow anyways I cant see people buying these hero mechs unless your having to much $USD in your pockets. Maybe if the new FatBoy Stalker moved like a fast medium I would buy one OW hahaha we have no real fast mediums my bad.

No offense, but the cicada is the fastest mech in the game and IS a medium

[GoManGo]

FlyingTurtle, on 05 May 2013 - 06:53 AM, said:

No offense, but the cicada is the fastest mech in the game and IS a medium

Well after buying a copy of MechWarrior 4 Mercenaries and playing it online MWO mechs are like turtles stuck in a sand pit .It is the way the mechs move and accelerate in MWO that makes them so stupid overall if you don't believe me go on E-Bay buy a copy of Mercenaries and play it? http://video.search....=yfp-t-900&tt=b

[Wintersdark]

coolcook007, on 05 May 2013 - 06:15 AM, said:

This game becomes to pay to win. This mech has AC, every other Stalker cant have it. What do you think?

So? You don't have to pay to get an assault with ballistics. Just get a highlander or atlas.

Not P2W.

GoManGo, on 05 May 2013 - 06:58 AM, said:

Well after buying a copy of MechWarrior 4 Mercenaries and playing it online MWO mechs are like turtles stuck in a sand pit .It is the way the mechs move and accelerate in MWO that makes them so stupid overall if you don't believe me go on E-Bay buy a copy of Mercenaries and play it? http://video.search....=yfp-t-900&tt=b

I hated MW4 for that very reason. Mechs didn't feel like Mechs, they felt like people. There was no feeling of *mass*, of being in a huge engine of destruction. MW4 was terrible.

[Wintersdark]

GoManGo, on 05 May 2013 - 06:45 AM, said:

My stalker is a fat pig and slow dang mech I really hate it the mechs are so slow anyways I cant see people buying these hero mechs unless your having to much $USD in your pockets. Maybe if the new FatBoy Stalker moved like a fast medium I would buy one OW hahaha we have no real fast mediums my bad.

If you don't like slow mechs, why did you buy a Stalker? Hell, why did you buy an assault at all?

Get a Jagermech, Catapult, or Dragon. My Flame ticks along at 104kph quite nicely, and kittycats easily manage 86kph.

[FrostCollar]

This isn't a suggestion.

[GoManGo]

Wintersdark, on 05 May 2013 - 07:02 AM, said:

So? You don't have to pay to get an assault with ballistics. Just get a highlander or atlas.

Not P2W.



I hated MW4 for that very reason. Mechs didn't feel like Mechs, they felt like people. There was no feeling of *mass*, of being in a huge engine of destruction. MW4 was terrible.

If PGI would have taken just stock MechWarrior 4 Mercenaries and remade it with all new Graphics and sound remade the maps like in MWO and added a chat/game launcher lobby then ladder leagues and planetary I would bet you $1 million USD we would have over a million players playing the game world wide instead we have a buggy mess that is a crap MechWarrior game overall and the Devs and mods even attack and try to destroy there own player base and fans on the forums.

[Wintersdark]

GoManGo, on 05 May 2013 - 07:08 AM, said:

If PGI would have taken just stock MechWarrior 4 Mercenaries and remade it with all new Graphics and sound remade the maps like in MWO and added a chat/game launcher lobby then ladder leagues and planetary I would bet you $1 million USD we would have over a million players playing the game world wide instead we have a buggy mess that is a crap MechWarrior game overall and the Devs and mods even attack and try to destroy there own player base and fans on the forums.

Maybe. I wouldn't be one of them, though, I hated MW4 with a passion - it wasn't Mechwarrior, it was a standard FPS with mech skins.

[Krzysztof z Bagien]

Obvious troll is obvious.

[Sean Kye]

As it should be. You always arm the peasants with the worst weapons. They are only fodder after all.

[Felicitatem Parco]

This thread isn't a Suggestion, and since we don't actually have the Mech to test we can't test it for its theoretical P2W Gameplay properties (remember: it has to play better to make you Win).

I'll move this thread to the Barracks Mechs and Loadout so pilots can jabber about it for a while, and it if gets out of hand it will then be jettisoned.

Edited by Prosperity Park, 05 May 2013 - 07:16 AM.

[Texugo87]

Damn cool looking, but not pay to win... Just pay for something different...

[Ari Dian]

GoManGo, on 05 May 2013 - 06:58 AM, said:

Well after buying a copy of MechWarrior 4 Mercenaries and playing it online MWO mechs are like turtles stuck in a sand pit .It is the way the mechs move and accelerate in MWO that makes them so stupid overall if you don't believe me go on E-Bay buy a copy of Mercenaries and play it? http://video.search....=yfp-t-900&tt=b

First. You do know that MW4merc is free to get now? Paying money for something that you can get for free is, well, strange().

Second: MWO is not MW4. If you want to play MW4 i would suggest to play MW4 (obviously).
And i like the movement of the mechs (the accelerate and break). Combined with the mech tweaks for different turning and torso twist, it give a bit more varieties. Now all they have to do it to remove the 140kph limit after the fix of the netcode (cicada with 178 kph no armor, no weapons, but damm fast).

[Ari Dian]

P2W just because of the loadout? No.
Especially not if there are alternatives with similar loadouts.

If weapons would generate less heat or weight less on this mech. This would be P2W.
if his armor would be 2x as strong as the normal mech armor for normal weight. This would be P2W.
If he would have more critical slots as a normal mech (more than only the hand and lower arm activators). This would be P2W.
If he would a Warhawk with full loadout instead of a stalker . This would be P2W.
A Stalker with a ballistic slot? Not P2W.

[Golfin Man]

Hero mechs being/not being P2W is not an issue that should even be considered in light of other issues currently involved with this game. The one hero mech that I think you could make a claim for is the Flame, its hardpoints seem to me to be superior to the other dragons, although I like torso mounted ballistics and 4SP laser arms so I might be biased.