

Std Engine > Xl Engine
#61
Posted 15 August 2013 - 07:13 PM
I used to run standard engines on more mechs than I do these days, Things like my Jager S used to have a 250 standard now it rocks a 280 XL. I was finding that games that I lost my side torso's in I was practically combat ineffective when it happened either, either being totally shredded or being near out of ammo. So I put in a 280 XL, go a little faster carry more ammo, has worked well so far.
Victors and QDs and my brawler Highlander 733C all run XLs, I find torso twisting keeps them alive and the heavier firepower and faster speeds I get out of them are worth the trade.
infact I only use Standards in my Atlases my Awesome 8Q (my 9m has an xl) my Hunchbacks and my Stalkers, 6 mechs out of 30
#62
Posted 15 August 2013 - 07:23 PM

I also STD my wang.... >.> in mwo only ofc... <.<
#64
Posted 15 August 2013 - 10:55 PM
It gives you space for high firepower + 64 kph + decent manoeuvrability + 3 internal heat-sinks.
If you're going to mount a STD and crawl along at 50 kph you might as well hop in an Atlas.
#65
Posted 15 August 2013 - 11:57 PM
Profiteer, on 15 August 2013 - 10:55 PM, said:
It gives you space for high firepower + 64 kph + decent manoeuvrability + 3 internal heat-sinks.
If you're going to mount a STD and crawl along at 50 kph you might as well hop in an Atlas.
All my HGNs run 300 STD. After speed tweak it goes 59+change. And it's nice to still be able to contribute if you lose a side.
#67
Posted 16 August 2013 - 08:17 AM
Java Junkie, on 15 August 2013 - 07:02 PM, said:
For the love of god drop the CASE! Even in a standard I would never, ever run MG, AC, or Missile ammo in my torsos even with a standard. In TT/P&P there was (some limited) reasons to run with ammo in your torso, but not MWO...
To the thread in general, I almost never lose a side unless I'm so beaten up that even if the hit had gone to CT I'd still have died. So even in my Jagers and Highlanders I'll run XLs. Spiders, Cicadas, Catapult, Jagers, Highlanders... They all run XLs fine if you spread out that damage love...
Edited by Shadey99, 16 August 2013 - 08:20 AM.
#68
Posted 16 August 2013 - 11:21 AM
#69
Posted 16 August 2013 - 11:47 PM
A sniper or fire support can use XL... they can avoid being targetted first by enemies if your brawlers grab their attention and make them lose situational awareness. Kinda hard to continue scanning hills and ridgelines for enemies when you gotta worry about a brawler crawling up your butt.
#70
Posted 17 August 2013 - 03:29 AM
IMO XL engines need to be buffed. It should require 4 critical hits to destroy an XL engine (instead of a side torso destruction).
With my suggestion, destroying a side torso would only give you 3 of the 4 required critical hits so you would need to get a 4th critical hit to destroy the mech.
Edited by Khobai, 17 August 2013 - 03:36 AM.
#71
Posted 17 August 2013 - 05:49 AM
Khobai, on 17 August 2013 - 03:29 AM, said:
IMO XL engines need to be buffed. It should require 4 critical hits to destroy an XL engine (instead of a side torso destruction).
With my suggestion, destroying a side torso would only give you 3 of the 4 required critical hits so you would need to get a 4th critical hit to destroy the mech.
Dunno bro. I run em in a lot of my builds with no problems.
#72
Posted 17 August 2013 - 09:56 AM
Khobai, on 17 August 2013 - 03:29 AM, said:
IMO XL engines need to be buffed. It should require 4 critical hits to destroy an XL engine (instead of a side torso destruction).
With my suggestion, destroying a side torso would only give you 3 of the 4 required critical hits so you would need to get a 4th critical hit to destroy the mech.
You also can't torso twist to protect yourself in TT.
XL's are just much better for some mechs than they are for others, depending on the hitboxes.
Edited by Roughneck45, 17 August 2013 - 09:56 AM.
#74
Posted 17 August 2013 - 10:18 AM
Zakie Chan, on 17 August 2013 - 10:14 AM, said:
Lies all lies. The XL engine takes away the best part of the wang... indestructibuuu!
Going fast means never having to lose your AC20 in the first place. So while you are zombie humping with your little pew pew, I will still be going "dakka dakka". At elast until I have have done so 28 times. Then I will being going around pewpewing too..... just faster!
#75
Posted 17 August 2013 - 10:21 AM
Commando: Yes to XL
Jenner: Yes to XL
Raven: Yes to XL
Centurion: Yes to XL
Hunchback: NO to XL
Terbuchet: No to XL
Kintaro: Yes to XL
Dragon: yes to XL
Quickdraw: It's a draw
Cataphract: Yes to XL
Jagermech: Yes to XL
Catapult: Yes to XL
Awesome: Yes to XL
Victor: Yes to XL
Highlander: Yes to XL
Atlas: NO to XL
IMO.
#76
Posted 17 August 2013 - 10:25 AM
DegeneratePervert, on 17 August 2013 - 10:21 AM, said:
Commando: Yes to XL
Jenner: Yes to XL
Raven: Yes to XL
Centurion: Yes to XL
Hunchback: NO to XL
Terbuchet: No to XL
Kintaro: Yes to XL
Dragon: yes to XL
Quickdraw: It's a draw
Cataphract: Yes to XL
Jagermech: Yes to XL
Catapult: Yes to XL
Awesome: Yes to XL
Victor: Yes to XL
Highlander: Yes to XL
Atlas: NO to XL
IMO.
You forgot the Stalker, with an emphatic NO, lol.
Also I mostly agree with your list, with 2 exceptions:
I think the HBK-4SP is a draw. Doesn't get torso'd as easy, and depends on the role. For short range, you run out of room to use that weight overall, but if you wanna pack LRMS, I think it's quite doable.
Also I ran my Trebuchet 7K with an XL exclusively without issues. SO I think it's another that is pure preference.
#77
Posted 17 August 2013 - 10:29 AM
Bishop Steiner, on 17 August 2013 - 10:18 AM, said:
But think of all that extra armor a sacrificial side torso gives! To me the speed difference doesn't warrant the lack of endurance. But then again I like to get close to my enemies and put my wang on their shoulder... Hit it and quit it works well for some, but it just isnt my style...
#78
Posted 17 August 2013 - 11:22 AM
Zakie Chan, on 17 August 2013 - 10:29 AM, said:
But think of all that extra armor a sacrificial side torso gives! To me the speed difference doesn't warrant the lack of endurance. But then again I like to get close to my enemies and put my wang on their shoulder... Hit it and quit it works well for some, but it just isnt my style...
hope you named your Wang "Marvin Gaye" then.
There's too much loving for my Wang to dole out to be stuck with just one partner a night!
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