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[627]

Last time i piloted an A1 was in closed beta, never touched it after that (I felt it was overused and i took a C4 as third cat). But yesterday, with 10 millon in the bank i couldn't resist and bought an A1 and fitted it for the upcoming changes to BAP and ECM.

CPLT-A1

I really had trouble to fill the tonnage, plenty of ammo (75 Missiles per enemy), heat is non-existent, I even took 2 tons of AMS Ammo - does the command console do anything? Extra module slot?

Anyway, i was... surprised with the results.


Just pugs, and just running with the group most of the time (you can see, 5 times I ran away lol).

No one was expecting a streak cat, many comment "extinct" and "lol you'll die first in PPCwarrior" and so on... and guess what, i was top score at the end most of the time, 5 kills and 3 assists was my best (400-500 damage).

And that with a stock A1 without any mech efficiencies or modules. I only run into three or four mechs that were tricky to open which means ECM:

A legged raven 3L, it was nearly impossible to keep range between 180 and 200m. A spider tooked that thing out before i could shoot.
A Bunch of Atlas - that was hard and i think BAP would have killed me. I ran away, waited for ppc mechs and shoot from behind, killed one of them.

At the end, it was overwhelming how good it still works. ECM, Missile nerfs, PPC-Snipers, large maps... you wouldn't expect to win with this (old) one trick pony but you can. With the upcoming changes to BAP this will be interesting. I can hear the streaknerf-QQ already

[One Medic Army]

I have two questions:
How often do you play Heavy mechs?
Did you chain-fire your streaks to make the most of their vision-impairing effects?

Edited by One Medic Army, 06 May 2013 - 11:04 PM.

[627]

I almost exclusively pilet heavy mechs, exceptions are my three new cicadas (I have 3 'phracts, the 3 jagers and now all 4 Cats...man i love my Cats).
I don't chain fire, but i have them in 2 weapon groups LA/RA. I think this is just how you like it, high alpha or constant annoying. Yesterday it was better to get them all out as soon as possible because of cover (for the enemy and for me).

[Spheroid]

You know that build is possible with a STD 300+ engine using endo and FF if you lose a few heatsinks and the excessive AMS ammo.

[Bishop Steiner]

627, on 06 May 2013 - 11:12 PM, said:

I almost exclusively pilet heavy mechs, exceptions are my three new cicadas (I have 3 'phracts, the 3 jagers and now all 4 Cats...man i love my Cats).
I don't chain fire, but i have them in 2 weapon groups LA/RA. I think this is just how you like it, high alpha or constant annoying. Yesterday it was better to get them all out as soon as possible because of cover (for the enemy and for me).

always liked to load LA alpha/left click, RA Alpha/right click, Chain-Fire/scroll wheel. Kinda lets me do any variety i need with out undue muss.
Add BAP and Target Decay and 360 Target, and then it get's interesting, especially if you wing up with a PPC Warrior.

[627]

Spheroid, on 06 May 2013 - 11:14 PM, said:

You know that build is possible with a STD 300+ engine using endo and FF if you lose a few heatsinks and the excessive AMS ammo.

Yeah, but what do I get with that? Only thing i see is i loose speed (hey, speed is life) and i loose AMS... but that would be okay i think.

For the STD engine... i almost never get killed by side torsos in Catapults and when it happens, i'd died anyway because i ran in a bunch of foes without backup. Catapult is the only chassis for heavy and above which can always benefit from an XL.


/edit:
BAP is in the CT

Edited by 627, 06 May 2013 - 11:24 PM.

[Curccu]

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...6a7c3d83c65b3f7

I don't know if its too hot and enough jumpies for your taste but STD instead of XL with speed.

[Kyynele]

I fitted my A1 with streaks for the first time after that BAP announcement too (I started playing at a time ECM was already in game and streakcats were already extinct.) I've played my A1 for nearly 400 matches as a splatcat.

Even with the current ECM and nerfed missile damage, it's pretty close to trolling. With Advanced Sensor Range and BAP, ECM Atlai are no problem, it's easy to stay in the 180-270 range. I played it for one night, only got top damage a couple times (usually mediocre in 300-400 range), but got most kills in over half of the games, with three 4 kill games in a row.

It's a beast to finish off wounded enemies.

When I get close enough to enemy snipers, they're having a really hard time trying to hit me at 86 kph, jumpjetting all over them and constantly chainfiring the SSRMs. It also obviously ****** those people off big time, and they usually waste the end of their match trying to shoot me while the rest of my team, with more firepower get to blast them freely. It feels really cheap, no wonder there's been QQ when it was stronger.

It really shines in killing lights, though. Even ECM ones go down fast if they aren't targeting me. If they do focus on me, it's game over of course. That will change on 21st.

[El Bandito]

Once May 21st comes, just buy a Stalker with Quad PPC and Quad SSRM2 with BAP and forget about A1. With 360 retention module, noone is going to escape your streaks.

Also, your A1 needs tiny bits of adjustments.

Edited by El Bandito, 07 May 2013 - 02:14 AM.

[Agent KI7KO]

I am the very model of an overpowered splattercat,
I've blasted ravens, trebuchets, highlanders and cataphract,
I know the weapon hardpoints, and i dodge them like an acrobat,
From PPCs to UACs, I yawn at like the grumpy cat.

I'm rather highly modified, with XL that i think is phat,
I understand heat tables, both with single and/or double stat,
About heat management in battle, I'm failing with not shutting down,
With lots of cheerful moments where I'm powered down just like a clown.




...pssst. I prefer dumbfire SRMs.

Edited by Afoxi, 07 May 2013 - 02:31 AM.

[627]

El Bandito, on 07 May 2013 - 02:10 AM, said:

Once May 21st comes, just buy a Stalker with Quad PPC and Quad SSRM2 with BAP and forget about A1. With 360 retention module, noone is going to escape your streaks.

Also, your A1 needs tiny bits of adjustments.

Baah, stalkers... lol

But please enlighten me about the tiny tweaks - i hope you don't want to put ammo in the torso


that STD build seems to be viable to, even has more armor on legs, but of course i could drop a ton of AMS... but what to do with 0.3tons?


Oh, the splatcat... thats what my C4 is for... this is definetly a streak cat only.

Edited by 627, 07 May 2013 - 03:10 AM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Kyynele, on 07 May 2013 - 01:33 AM, said:

I fitted my A1 with streaks for the first time after that BAP announcement too (I started playing at a time ECM was already in game and streakcats were already extinct.) I've played my A1 for nearly 400 matches as a splatcat.

Even with the current ECM and nerfed missile damage, it's pretty close to trolling. With Advanced Sensor Range and BAP, ECM Atlai are no problem, it's easy to stay in the 180-270 range. I played it for one night, only got top damage a couple times (usually mediocre in 300-400 range), but got most kills in over half of the games, with three 4 kill games in a row.

It's a beast to finish off wounded enemies.

When I get close enough to enemy snipers, they're having a really hard time trying to hit me at 86 kph, jumpjetting all over them and constantly chainfiring the SSRMs. It also obviously ****** those people off big time, and they usually waste the end of their match trying to shoot me while the rest of my team, with more firepower get to blast them freely. It feels really cheap, no wonder there's been QQ when it was stronger.

It really shines in killing lights, though. Even ECM ones go down fast if they aren't targeting me. If they do focus on me, it's game over of course. That will change on 21st.

Considering you are "cheaping" Poptarts... does it real count as cheap? There isn't much cheesier or lower skilled than parking a HGN or Phract and just pop and shoot.

[Alistair Winter]

I like it! People have been ignoring the fact that SSRMs are still too powerful against lights, due to the fact that they're now less useful against heavies and assaults. But it's still clearly in need of a tune-up, and the only way to make that happen is to fly the proud flag of the Streakcat once more.

I thought the Raven 3L would prove the point, but people missed it entirely and blamed it on lack of collision or the hitboxes or some other nonsense.

Good job, caped crusader!

[627]

Everything for the team and the lulz

[General Taskeen]

And the min/max race goes on... It has come to this.

[Bishop Steiner]

Alistair Winter, on 07 May 2013 - 06:34 AM, said:

I like it! People have been ignoring the fact that SSRMs are still too powerful against lights, due to the fact that they're now less useful against heavies and assaults. But it's still clearly in need of a tune-up, and the only way to make that happen is to fly the proud flag of the Streakcat once more.

I thought the Raven 3L would prove the point, but people missed it entirely and blamed it on lack of collision or the hitboxes or some other nonsense.

Good job, caped crusader!

No, it's still more the combo of ECM AND SSRMs that make the Com-2D and Raven-3L so broken. With the damage nerf currently on SSRMs, I find them to be useful, but hardly OP. But in all fairness, a 65 ton mech dedicating it's arsenal to killing lights, SHOULD be able to make short work of mechs 30+ tons lighter. Especially when you factor in that is 65 tons of mech on the team that isn't terribly useful against the Big Boys anymore. (Hell of a good kill stealer though)

Raven-3L still has some wonky hitboxes in it's favor too.....

(BTW, I don't pilot StreakaPults or Splat-Cats.... just never interested me to be a one trick pony)

[Trauglodyte]

Move 4 tons of ammo to your legs and move your JJs to your side torsos. Then, take the AMS ammo in your head and move it to one of your arms and put one of the other tons of Streak ammo there.

Either way, I'm still not worried about StreakCats. It was a fad back before PPCs were worth while and before poptarts were viable. 12 missiles isn't really that worrisome and will be less so once they actually get fixed to NOT hit CT every time they're fired (regardless of what the ATD person says, they still go to CT).

[Krzysztof z Bagien]

Pssst... You want Artemis with your Streaks. Just don't tell anyone!

[Sadistic Savior]

627, on 06 May 2013 - 10:51 PM, said:

THE FABULOUS RETURN OF THE STREAK CAT

The only mech in the game that is allowed to be called Fabulous is the Heavy Metal Highlander.

[Inyc]

Krzysztof z Bagien, on 07 May 2013 - 08:37 AM, said:

Pssst... You want Artemis with your Streaks. Just don't tell anyone!

Is it a bug that Artemis speeds up Streak lock-on, even though it doesn't increase Streak Crit space and Tonnage? Seems OP.

Also to OP: That build won't be so good once they fix SSRMs to no longer be so CT-centric in their damage. I personally feel the A1 is a much better mech with a mix of LRM, SRM and SSRM.