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#21 JudgeDeathCZ

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 02:41 PM

Well but Spider 5K loadout still sux aswell machinegun CDA :) .

#22 Belrix

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 12:17 AM

I have forever been a Warhammer fan, but I don't thing Harmony Gold is going to allow it without another lawsuit. (ref. the suit after the initial trailer was released many moons ago).

#23 Belorion

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 03:42 AM

View PostBelrix, on 12 May 2013 - 12:17 AM, said:

I have forever been a Warhammer fan, but I don't thing Harmony Gold is going to allow it without another lawsuit. (ref. the suit after the initial trailer was released many moons ago).


There was no lawsuit after the trailer for MW5.

#24 Onmyoudo

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 01:11 AM

View PostFrostCollar, on 11 May 2013 - 01:10 PM, said:

Don't underestimate the capabilities of a variant because of what weapons it starts with.


I didn't, hence my comment regarding it needing to have triple the hardpoints that standard variant has to be worthwhile. For example, the one the other guy on the last page was talking about seemed pretty badass. 2 PPCs, 4 MedLas, an AC10, an SRM6 and 2 SmaLas. 8 Energy, 1 Ballistic and 1 Missile rack? Bloody hell. Some of those energy slots are probably arm mounted, too. That thing would be a hellion on the field.

#25 C E Dwyer

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 08:12 AM

not sure what mechs are next, I do know this weekend was the last time I spend money on this platform unless they launch the victor, or put more restrictions the customisation in this game.

I'm tired off facing off against 6ppc stalkers and splat cats, and their ilk, I'm not a canon fanatic, but the cheese builds are tedious to fight against.

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 08:35 AM

View PostCathy, on 13 May 2013 - 08:12 AM, said:

not sure what mechs are next, I do know this weekend was the last time I spend money on this platform unless they launch the victor, or put more restrictions the customisation in this game.

I'm tired off facing off against 6ppc stalkers and splat cats, and their ilk, I'm not a canon fanatic, but the cheese builds are tedious to fight against.

I think canon/stock mode would suffice. But that's fro another discussion.

#27 Gyrok

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Posted 18 May 2013 - 01:08 PM

I am really curious about the Assault mech coming in July...I really think it would be the Mauler...but that's just taking a shot in the dark.

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Posted 18 May 2013 - 02:09 PM

Mauler does not have the needed three canon variants, only the 1R and 1K are available. There is the 1PT5, but the canonicity of it is questionable due to it only appearing in the German edition of the Solaris VII boxed game. The Devs stated in Ask the Devs 38 that they will not use non-three variant Mechs for a while.

I am guessing the Victor- extremely prevalent in the novels, plenty of variants, and a good balance of weaponry and mobility. Banshee, maybe, but I'm not holding my breath. I'd love the Hatamoto-Chi, but it probably will not make the cut.

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Posted 18 May 2013 - 02:26 PM

mech 20 in july

#30 Belrix

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Posted 20 May 2013 - 02:44 AM

View PostBelorion, on 12 May 2013 - 03:42 AM, said:


There was no lawsuit after the trailer for MW5.


Ok, it was a cease and desist order following the teaser trailer put out by Smith and Tinker on IGN. Though not the first time, as Harmony Gold has sued FASA in the distant past for many of their designs from the Macross Animes.

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 04:25 PM

View PostBelrix, on 20 May 2013 - 02:44 AM, said:


Ok, it was a cease and desist order following the teaser trailer put out by Smith and Tinker on IGN. Though not the first time, as Harmony Gold has sued FASA in the distant past for many of their designs from the Macross Animes.


They aren't Harmony Gold's designs, they are simply licensees of the designs from a foreign entity as are FASA. They were both in the right from their own point of view.

More recently in Japanese courts the company that licensed the rights to FASA was found to be the rightful holder of the rights to the images, while the company that licensed the rights to Harmony Gold was found to only have the rights to the animated series.

FASA had just come out of a case where they lost to people that had ripped off FASA designs, and they weren't in a financial position to continue fighting so they settled.

If they had money, or the case were after the Japanese ruling they would have won, and we would all be playing the unseen right now.

ETA: I said are in terms of FASA because I believe they still exist as a legal entity that holds the rights (to the other non-unseen designs) which they have in turn licensed to others.

Edited by Belorion, 23 May 2013 - 04:27 PM.


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Posted 23 May 2013 - 04:32 PM

View PostLord Ikka, on 18 May 2013 - 02:09 PM, said:

I am guessing the Victor- extremely prevalent in the novels, plenty of variants, and a good balance of weaponry and mobility. Banshee, maybe, but I'm not holding my breath. I'd love the Hatamoto-Chi, but it probably will not make the cut.

Good points about the Mauler, but I don't think the Victor is likely. We've already got an assault with JJs and I'm not sure the Victor can do enough compared to the Highlander to warrant inclusion at this time. The Hatamoto-Chi, with its mix of energy and missile slots, seems too close to the Awesome to be added either.

Also, the Victor and Hatamoto-Chi are both 80 tons. I think it's much more likely that we'll get a mech with a different tonnage than all current mechs, and that makes the Banshee more likely.

Edited by FrostCollar, 23 May 2013 - 04:32 PM.


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Posted 23 May 2013 - 07:57 PM

View PostBelrix, on 20 May 2013 - 02:44 AM, said:

Ok, it was a cease and desist order following the teaser trailer put out by Smith and Tinker on IGN.


Your info seems to contradict the official statement (just below the MW5 trailer). Have a source?

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Contrary to all the press and speculation that Harmony Gold was getting in the way of a deal or development, this had no impact whatsoever on development or signing a deal for MechWarrior.


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Posted 23 May 2013 - 08:20 PM

View PostBelrix, on 12 May 2013 - 12:17 AM, said:

I have forever been a Warhammer fan, but I don't thing Harmony Gold is going to allow it without another lawsuit. (ref. the suit after the initial trailer was released many moons ago).

Well they didn't sue Blizzard for that one unit in Heart of the Swarm...

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 08:27 PM

View PostSephlock, on 23 May 2013 - 08:20 PM, said:

Well they didn't sue Blizzard for that one unit in Heart of the Swarm...

That's the first thing I thought of when I saw the Terran Warhound in HoTS.

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 08:31 PM

View PostSephlock, on 23 May 2013 - 08:20 PM, said:


Well they didn't sue Blizzard for that one unit in Heart of the Swarm...


HG doesn't want to fight with Blizzard. Blizzard has money. In barrels. In swimming pools. Hot and cold running money from solid gold faucets.

PGI doesn't.

#37 Gyrok

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 08:31 PM

View PostGyrok, on 18 May 2013 - 01:08 PM, said:

I am really curious about the Assault mech coming in July...I really think it would be the Mauler...but that's just taking a shot in the dark.


You had MAL-1K, MAL-1R, MAL-1PT5, and MAL-C

#38 Sephlock

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 08:44 PM

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Like, everyone and their mom can use the warhammer... can't PGI just say LOOK LOOK SEE EVERYONE ELSE IS DOING IT!- I'm sure theres a legal term for that kind of defense :).

Just refer to it as an unknown lostech design that was recently discovered (if they can cram the X-5 into lore they can cram this in too). Give it a new name. I suggest "NYA NYA HARMONY GOLD!"

Call it the "Hammer of War".

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 10:05 PM

View PostGyrok, on 23 May 2013 - 08:31 PM, said:


You had MAL-1K, MAL-1R, MAL-1PT5, and MAL-C

MAL-C is 3060 I believe, and 1PT5 has canon issues.

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 10:22 PM

Greetings all,

Back on topic, I'd like to see the 100 ton "Devastator DVS-2" as a new assault mech. General Kerensky himself designed the specifications for the Devastator.



History: When Stefan Amaris seized the reigns of the Terran Hegemony, production of the Devastator was stalled until the invasion of Terra, when a mere six prototypes were delivered to the Star League Defense Force. After its deployment in the battle for Terra, the Devastator remained lost to the Inner Sphere for centuries, until troops from the Federated Suns chanced upon the blueprints in a Star League base on the world of Hoff in 3023. A downgraded version of the 'Mech was prototyped in 3033 by the NAIS, using technology available at the time. It was not until 3044 that a Devastator appeared that was constructed using the intended technologies (DVS-2); this version was finally put in production by 3048.


Variants: DVS-1D, DVS-3.

DVS-2
Engine 300XL (54Kph)
14 x DHs
2 x Gauss rifles
2 x PPC's
4 x Med Lasers

[what other Mech do we have that could mount 2 gauss and 2 PPC's, plus the lasers! Not a mech I'd ever want to be "in it's targets".]

Sarna link here:
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Devastator

Later,
9erRed





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