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[IceGryphon]

Edited by IceGryphon, 16 May 2013 - 07:55 PM.

[LaserAngel]

Kong Cast #2: Misery Loves Company
72 minutes
2013/5/11

Topics:
Introduction: With Jude
Misery, the Hero Stalker
Reflections on the May 7th Patch
Beagle Active Probe, the Return of the Streakcat
Phil's Jump Jet Tank
Clan Weapons, the New Weapons before Clan Mechs?
MechWarrior Online UI 2.0, Grand Theft Smurfy
Could a Retail Copy of MechWarrior Have Succeeded?
PGI/IGP Testing Pipeline, We're the Customers

Edited by LaserAngel, 13 May 2013 - 12:50 PM.

[IceGryphon]

HERE IT KONG KAST #1

[LaserAngel]

Ice, you should try to edit the title if possible so this can just be the official Kong Kast Podcast thread instead of specifically for #2.

Kong Kast #1: If it sucks, it's Beta.
92 minutes
2013/4/27

Show Notes:
Kotaku November 2012 Mechwarrior Q&A
http://kotaku.com/59...stionsright-now

Artemis Controller for MWO
http://imgur.com/eNFJMo6

Garth Erlam’s LinkedIn
http://ca.linkedin.com/in/gartherlam

Mech Size Scale
http://imgur.com/rbMuBz8

Edited by LaserAngel, 13 May 2013 - 01:00 PM.

[Vassago Rain]

I am Vassago Rain, and I approve of Kongkast beta BETA.

[IceGryphon]

Vassago Rain, on 13 May 2013 - 03:01 PM, said:

I am Vassago Rain, and I approve of Kongkast beta BETA.

My favorite part is still Phil's Jump Jet Tank in Desert Storm.
I laughed so hard last night.

[ratgoat]

I liked it.

+1 internets

[valkyrie]

Stopping by to say that no, I will not stop being a pessimistic *******.

PGI, beatings will continue until morale improves.

[StandingCow]

It's good getting the different viewpoints from the different podcasts.

NGNG tries to remain positive at all times...sometimes a bit to a fault.
Command Chair is more the "blue collar" podcast, where it's people that like the game but also criticize. A really good balance.
Kong Kast is more on the very critical side...again sometimes a bit to a fault.

I enjoy all of the podcasts equally, and between them all you really get a good feel of the community as a whole.

Have to say I sort of agree on the pricing model... why spend 35 bucks on a mech when you can buy an entire game for that price? PGI could sell a lot more if they would charge less... but hey, they know the numbers on their sales, and I guess they are happy with them.

Anyway, keep it up guys, always good to have more podcasts to listen to.

Edit: Ok finished listening. The only suggestion I would make... and it's just my opinion is.. the "mocking" sorta grated on my nerves a bit... I loved how critical you guys were, and agreed with a lot of your points, but some of the mocking (for lack of a better term) wasn't fun to listen to.... hopefully that makes sense and you know where I am coming from?

Edited by StandingCow, 14 May 2013 - 05:35 AM.

[LaserAngel]

Thanks for the feedback StandingCow and this is what I was looking for. I guess I can call myself the editor and coordinator for the podcast as a whole.

I must admit we sound cynical and jaded. That is the reality of the game for us though. I still feel that it is simply our desire to tell it how it is in this game. We do have a certain level of speculation but I'd rather have us bring to the table what has happened and also provide links back for the audience. It's easy to forget, just not for us.

We do know that somewhere deep down under everything there is a good game in MechWarrior Online. We keep playing and discussing what we jokingly call a "dead game". In fact after yesterday's barrage of information from Bryan, on Twitter no less, things are looking up for us.

Also, we're not NGNG. We really do appreciate what Phil does, attend his recordings, submit questions, and watch the IGP streams to squeeze information from Garth. It was NGNG that inspired us to make our own podcast. Yet, while I do understand Phil's position to promote discussion about MechWarrior, I suppose we feel that it just stops short there.

That is where we step in. We're not here to ruin the game for everyone else. We're here to step into the deep end and swim when no one else is willing.

Just remember, it's Beta.

Edited by LaserAngel, 14 May 2013 - 07:21 AM.

[StandingCow]

Fair enough. Like I said, overall I enjoyed it a lot, and look forward to the next one.

[valkyrie]

LaserAngel, on 14 May 2013 - 07:09 AM, said:

I must admit we sound cynical and jaded. That is the reality of the game for us though. I still feel that it is simply our desire to tell it how it is in this game. We do have a certain level of speculation but I'd rather have us bring to the table what has happened and also provide links back for the audience. It's easy to forget, just not for us.

We do know that somewhere deep down under everything there is a good game in MechWarrior Online. We keep playing and discussing what we jokingly call a "dead game". In fact after yesterday's barrage of information from Bryan, on Twitter no less, things are looking up for us.

Also, we're not NGNG. We really do appreciate what Phil does, attend his recordings, submit questions, and watch the IGP streams to squeeze information from Garth. It was NGNG that inspired us to make our own podcast. Yet, while I do understand Phil's position to promote discussion about MechWarrior, I suppose we feel that it just stops short there.

That is where we step in. We're not here to ruin the game for everyone else. We're here to step into the deep end and swim when no one else is willing.

This has been my stance since the poptart onslaught began. I want to see the screws put to PGI for their mistakes. I thought we could rely on the rest of the community to call out PGI when they make mistakes. NGNG was, for the longest time, the only real voice of the fans, but these days I can practically hear Phil grasping at straws over his microphone when PGI screws up YET AGAIN and he's trying to put a positive outlook on it. Some things you just can't sugarcoat, and that's when you've got to have someone else step in and play bad cop.

[Ialochin]

How did you get Dr. Krieger to Chair your podcast?

[valkyrie]

Ialochin, on 15 May 2013 - 11:50 AM, said:

How did you get Dr. Krieger to Chair your podcast?

Laser is holding his wife hostage on his hard drive.

[M4NTiC0R3X]

I like the cast but a little beat in the background goes a long way!

[thebman]

If you guys are so jaded then quit. If you feel your money is wasted go buy a retail game that you pay to play that still has bugs and have fun. I see alot of the issues on this game are because of the players not the game. Everyone loves to cheat and exploit as much as they can blame the players.

[LaserAngel]

M4NTiC0R3X, on 15 May 2013 - 03:10 PM, said:

I like the cast but a little beat in the background goes a long way!

I was exploring that but I find it annoying while listening to NGNG. In fact NGNG is the only podcast/show that I listen to that does have background music.

Ialochin, on 15 May 2013 - 11:50 AM, said:

How did you get Dr. Krieger to Chair your podcast?

We have some talented voices in our group.

Edited by LaserAngel, 15 May 2013 - 04:53 PM.

[Rather Dashing]

thebman, on 15 May 2013 - 03:18 PM, said:

If you guys are so jaded then quit.

GET A LOAD OF THIS GUY.
IT'S LIKE HE DIDN'T PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT THE ACTUAL MESSAGE WAS.
OH WAIT.

[IceGryphon]

thebman, on 15 May 2013 - 03:18 PM, said:

If you guys are so jaded then quit.

This is proof that you do not need to be a founder to have the mentality of a gold.
Maybe I will quit "SOON". This is only my position at the current time.
My feelings are only beta and I should stop being so entitled

[LaserAngel]

thebman, on 15 May 2013 - 03:18 PM, said:

If you guys are so jaded then quit. If you feel your money is wasted go buy a retail game that you pay to play that still has bugs and have fun. I see alot of the issues on this game are because of the players not the game. Everyone loves to cheat and exploit as much as they can blame the players.

I just talked to Tabrias about something along these lines.

Quote

The comment about them using the beta shield, and how in my opinion it is an admission by them that the game is not ready to be reviewed as a released game, and would any other company do it any differently.

This is mentioned around 1:00:00-1:01:00 depending on the version in Kong Kast #2.

I hope to touch on this again, as in the next show, since it's becoming more of an industry standard instead of riding PGI for trying to do it first. I've glanced at DOTA 2 but I'm told it is undergoing buglist galore quality from Valve of all people.

Edited by LaserAngel, 15 May 2013 - 05:29 PM.