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[Dodger79]

I am quite concerned about the heat efficiency of all the Stalker's stock designs. Every single one is lower and worse then the one of the really quick overheating Awesome 9M. So, as a Trial the Stalker won't be very good. And for a customized design you might need more heatsinks then are available in the whole inner sphere...

I'm really looking forward playing this Mech, but i think it will need a massive overhaul to make it effective.

[CoreHunter]

how many srm6s or medium lasers can you put in it? Will it get ecm?

Edited by CoreHunter, 15 December 2012 - 05:26 AM.

[JudgeDeathCZ]

Dodger79, on 15 December 2012 - 05:10 AM, said:

I am quite concerned about the heat efficiency of all the Stalker's stock designs. Every single one is lower and worse then the one of the really quick overheating Awesome 9M. So, as a Trial the Stalker won't be very good. And for a customized design you might need more heatsinks then are available in the whole inner sphere...

I'm really looking forward playing this Mech, but i think it will need a massive overhaul to make it effective.

It originally used a special computer to make the best use of its weaponry with regards to the heat it would generate. Unfortunately this program is now lost and a MechWarrior should stagger fire of its weapons to avoid overheating problems.^[2]

[Mavqie]

now i know what im saving up my c-bills for

[b1ackadder]

CoreHunter, on 15 December 2012 - 05:26 AM, said:

how many srm6s or medium lasers can you put in it? Will it get ecm?

Take a look here:

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Stalker

All the variants are shown there

[Redoxin]

Coret Trobane, on 13 December 2012 - 08:31 AM, said:

Pretty much of the same opinion (though it won't stop me buying several Stalkers!).

It just looks a little too tall, with the torso-twist joint looking, well, skinny - in addition to the two 'arm' missile pods being mounted a little too high.

I've done a *very* quick photochop of what changes I'd make to bring it a bit closer to the concept picture from pg1 of this thread:

Lol isnt the 2 basically the same? Only one is a little taller.

Oh well guess I never had an eye for such details.

b1ackadder, on 15 December 2012 - 04:01 PM, said:

Take a look here:

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Stalker

All the variants are shown there

Doesnt tell us the exact number of hardpoints they will have in the game though.

[El Death Smurf]

Redoxin, on 15 December 2012 - 04:17 PM, said:

Lol isnt the 2 basically the same? Only one is a little taller.

Oh well guess I never had an eye for such details.


Doesnt tell us the exact number of hardpoints they will have in the game though.

first it has some slight differences. 1) arms are lower, and not so bunny like 2) Gyro is nto exposed and teh upper body is right on top of the legs 3) mech, over all, is shorte rand wider, and not such a tower.

3 of the 5 variants explicitly must have 10 hardpoints, and if othe rmechs set an example, most of the varients will have 10 hardpoints.
3F- 4missle, 6 energy (standard)
5M- 5missle, 5 energy (it has a narc, and the 2 large lasers become 1 ER large moved to the center torso
5S- 4 missle, 6 energy (will likeley coem with 2 AMS since it comes stock with one (atlas K does the same)
those are for sure, but,
3H- has 2 lrm 20 and drops the 2 large lasers, so i'd bet 6million C-Bills that it will have 6missle- 4 energy
4N- just drops an lrm10, frankly i do'nt even know why they include it... its a modded 3F and does nothing for the mech flavor wise

[Hobosapien]

El Death Smurf, on 15 December 2012 - 05:28 PM, said:

first it has some slight differences. 1) arms are lower, and not so bunny like 2) Gyro is nto exposed and teh upper body is right on top of the legs 3) mech, over all, is shorte rand wider, and not such a tower.

Ah, I was wondering for a bit there too. I would have to disagree with the part you call the gyro there, however. It looks to me like it's just a swivel mechanism for the torso. Wouldn't the gyro be just as internal and protected as the engine? Sure that bit is a teensy bit thick but I really don't see anything more than "this is CT too, it has armor and stuff, but it swivels! (cue the car salesman with huge smile)"

anyhow... “I owe you all the beers ever!” You do this right PGI and you can be damn sure I might share a bit of my beer winnings ;D

[Redoxin]

El Death Smurf, on 15 December 2012 - 05:28 PM, said:

first it has some slight differences. 1) arms are lower, and not so bunny like 2) Gyro is nto exposed and teh upper body is right on top of the legs 3) mech, over all, is shorte rand wider, and not such a tower.

3 of the 5 variants explicitly must have 10 hardpoints, and if othe rmechs set an example, most of the varients will have 10 hardpoints.
3F- 4missle, 6 energy (standard)
5M- 5missle, 5 energy (it has a narc, and the 2 large lasers become 1 ER large moved to the center torso
5S- 4 missle, 6 energy (will likeley coem with 2 AMS since it comes stock with one (atlas K does the same)
those are for sure, but,
3H- has 2 lrm 20 and drops the 2 large lasers, so i'd bet 6million C-Bills that it will have 6missle- 4 energy
4N- just drops an lrm10, frankly i do'nt even know why they include it... its a modded 3F and does nothing for the mech flavor wise

Its a shame that all these variants are nearly the same. I dont think there is any other mech where the variants have so little differences. Makes it even more pointless to buy more than one.

[Adridos]

Redoxin, on 16 December 2012 - 03:39 AM, said:

I dont think there is any other mech where the variants have so little differences.

Dragon... I still can't understand why is there no G variant of it.

[Kenach]

Here is my prefered assault ! I played with it in the java mechlab hahaha I can't wait to buy this destruction machine

Edited by Kenach, 16 December 2012 - 11:36 AM.

[Anubis Ka]

Wake me up when the DAISHI is available....

[Redoxin]

Adridos, on 16 December 2012 - 03:48 AM, said:

Dragon... I still can't understand why is there no G variant of it.

I pilot Dragons mostly. And they have quite meaningful differences imo, at least bigger ones than the Stalkers. Having 4 lasers instead of 2 on the 1C is pretty big.

[VerusZetec]

Looking forward to this mech - I just sold my Atlas in preparation. (I can't stand Atlai. Never could, all the way back to MW2.)

[Thorqemada]

One more day and my Garage will see a mighty one joining in...

[FrostCollar]

Thorqemada, on 16 December 2012 - 08:40 PM, said:

One more day and my Garage will see a mighty one joining in...

[ApolloKaras]

That STK-5S is going to be expensive! Its around 16 million C-Bills or so... lol

[Reported for Inappropriate Name]

Dodger79, on 15 December 2012 - 05:10 AM, said:

I am quite concerned about the heat efficiency of all the Stalker's stock designs. Every single one is lower and worse then the one of the really quick overheating Awesome 9M. So, as a Trial the Stalker won't be very good. And for a customized design you might need more heatsinks then are available in the whole inner sphere...

I'm really looking forward playing this Mech, but i think it will need a massive overhaul to make it effective.

well the thing about the stalker is, it's a swiss army knife of range and damage.

long range, you have the lrm's backed up by the two torso mounted large lasers. as the enemy gets closer you switch from the two large lasers to the four medium lasers, now the pretty thing here is that the four medium lasers combined do more damage than the large lasers, but combined they also generate more heat but staggered they are actually more efficient than the large lasers at medium range. and then as they close into short range you have the punch of the srm's


in fact if i were to make a change at all it would be to put the srm's in the arms and the lrm's in the torso with the large lasers, so that I can effectively aim at leghumpers

tl;dr: at long range use lrm and blues

at medium range drop the blues except for alpha strike and use the greens in stagger fire save for alpha

at close range they should be so chewed up that a punch with the srm's will knock them down, clean up with the greens.

i would also like to make a note that you will want the greens on each arm staggered in their own grouping if you have the hotkeys or buttons to make that setup comfortable

Edited by Battlecruiser, 16 December 2012 - 09:35 PM.

[Arkmaus]

Are there any more pics of the model yet?

[AntiCitizenJuan]

I know that every time I kill one I'm going to shout "GET OUT OF HERE STALKER!"