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7 Kills, Over 800 Dmg, In A Spider 5D


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#21 Tesfurdo

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Posted 19 May 2013 - 08:15 AM

View Postbuttmonkey, on 19 May 2013 - 07:52 AM, said:

i dont record all my matches, dont know how and dont really have a good enough pc to play and record at the same time. i reported the guy, pgi said they are looking into it so we will see. ive been playing over a year and i like to think i can tell when i see an obvious aimbot

i also had 2 team mates with me on ts who agreed this guy was botting so is 3 witness testimones enough for you? i would like to see you use the "video or it didnt happen" defence in a court setting you would be laughed out of the room


I know for a fact that I've had a whole team convinced in various games I've played that I was aimbotting.... given that i've never used one and wouldn't trust any sort of 3rd party software designed for cheaters by cheaters... I find it quite amusing that people think I must be using an aim bot. I can (on occasion) be THAT accurate. There will already be plenty of players out there who are VERY good at this game already... my accuracy with the GR for example is over 90%... there must be a lot better players than me.

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Posted 19 May 2013 - 08:22 AM

E-PEEN? How about a, ah..D-Peen. I have a Stalker with 2LL, 3ML and 5 Streaks. I went around the base of a hill and ran into 5 mechs under ECM. Ouch! Retreat was not an option as I was point blank. I do not object to going out in a blaze of glory and since I could not escape and was overwhelmed I attacked a Catapult that was closest. I Alpha hit with all weapons (56 dmg) and then got off 2 more hits with 3ML and 5SSRMs (40 dmg each shot). All visibly hit at point blank range. They had lost their ecm coverage, do not know why. Then blew apart under fire of the rest. Reading the After Action Report I saw my total damage - 28 points. I do not claim an elite e-peen status, I am at best average. Draw your own conclusions.

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Posted 19 May 2013 - 12:10 PM

View Postbuttmonkey, on 19 May 2013 - 07:52 AM, said:

i dont record all my matches, dont know how and dont really have a good enough pc to play and record at the same time. i reported the guy, pgi said they are looking into it so we will see. ive been playing over a year and i like to think i can tell when i see an obvious aimbot

i also had 2 team mates with me on ts who agreed this guy was botting so is 3 witness testimones enough for you? i would like to see you use the "video or it didnt happen" defence in a court setting you would be laughed out of the room

i didn't reply to you but to the thead maker.

P.S.:This isn't a court, here "video or it didn't huppen" is valid argument and you know it. If you didn't, your wellcome.

#24 Li Song

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Posted 19 May 2013 - 12:43 PM

View PostLord Perversor, on 17 May 2013 - 08:36 PM, said:


if i'm not mistaken we had a fight around 2 days ago in river city night, you blew up my highlander and at the end you won the round by destroying an opposing Stalker weapons even despite you had lost a leg.

Not going to say much about the build (i seen other try it to emulate a panther Mech) but i have to recognize you have quite a good aim.even for such mech speeds.


Yes, that was me, I was so excited I forgot to lock the stalker to see I had disarmed it and kept hiding lol sadly, I didn't get a screen cap of that and my friend quit early and didn't fraps ><

#25 Li Song

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Posted 19 May 2013 - 01:04 PM

View PostIV Amen, on 17 May 2013 - 08:46 PM, said:

One hit wonder. If you can average 300 I salute.

I 300 is a quite normal score on this build.

View PostTesfurdo, on 19 May 2013 - 12:42 AM, said:

Shopped

It's a photo... difficult to shop but still you're welcome to ask PGI to verify it.

View Postbuttmonkey, on 19 May 2013 - 07:36 AM, said:

some of these guys are aimbots for sure. i was in a match on frozen city. now bear in mind you cant see very far, there was a spider perched up on top of a building over 1500m away, thats the furthest building i could see so it was at least that. he was hitting my side torso every time. once that was gone he started on my centre torso. no misses just 100% hits. now thats an aimbot and no mistake, he ended up with 650+ damage in that match

im not saying their all aimbots but use your brain, if your visibilty is only 1500m and you cant see the enemy mech how the hell can he hit you in the exact same spot over and over when he cant see you, and you are moving at over 1500m away?

I'll assure you, I'm not cheating I don't want none of those phreaker software on my computer... full of virus. Although wouldn't be the first time I've been accused :\ Some people are just sore loosers.

If you don't believe me: http://www.twitch.tv/Li_Song

View PostTesfurdo, on 19 May 2013 - 08:15 AM, said:


I know for a fact that I've had a whole team convinced in various games I've played that I was aimbotting.... given that i've never used one and wouldn't trust any sort of 3rd party software designed for cheaters by cheaters... I find it quite amusing that people think I must be using an aim bot. I can (on occasion) be THAT accurate. There will already be plenty of players out there who are VERY good at this game already... my accuracy with the GR for example is over 90%... there must be a lot better players than me.

Agreed!

Edited by Li Song, 19 May 2013 - 01:59 PM.


#26 Wispsy

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Posted 19 May 2013 - 01:09 PM

View Postbuttmonkey, on 19 May 2013 - 07:52 AM, said:

i dont record all my matches, dont know how and dont really have a good enough pc to play and record at the same time. i reported the guy, pgi said they are looking into it so we will see. ive been playing over a year and i like to think i can tell when i see an obvious aimbot

i also had 2 team mates with me on ts who agreed this guy was botting so is 3 witness testimones enough for you? i would like to see you use the "video or it didnt happen" defence in a court setting you would be laughed out of the room


Well there are actually a lot of flaws with eyewitness testimony...The main one being people and their memories are actually not the most reliable of things.

That aside I headshot 2 mechs in a row on my ERPPC Spider yesterday and that is 4 shots each and whilst they were not moving particularly well they were not stationary...Sometimes you just get a really good game against not so great opponents, sometimes you get really really lucky.

#27 Tesfurdo

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Posted 19 May 2013 - 02:00 PM

View PostLi Song, on 19 May 2013 - 01:04 PM, said:


It's a photo... difficult to shop but still you're welcome to ask PGI to verify it.


I didn't actually think it was shopped... it was a joke. XD obv not a funny one...

Edited by Tesfurdo, 19 May 2013 - 02:00 PM.


#28 Novakaine

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Posted 19 May 2013 - 02:09 PM

View PostLi Song, on 17 May 2013 - 11:35 AM, said:

http://imgur.com/mVGtaQ1

Nuff said. 5minutes ago


I'm sorry that was my 3rd grade playtest group of children I work with.
Once again sorry for boosting your ego like that.
I feel bad.

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Posted 19 May 2013 - 06:16 PM

View PostM0rpHeu5, on 19 May 2013 - 12:10 PM, said:

i didn't reply to you but to the thead maker.

P.S.:This isn't a court, here &quot;video or it didn't huppen&quot; is valid argument and you know it. If you didn't, your wellcome.



I've seen aimbots do amazing things in other games. I wouldn't doubt that they exist here. To do so would be naive.

#30 Haji1096

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Posted 19 May 2013 - 06:24 PM

I just tried the ER PPC Spider 5 V build today.

I hit about 1 out of every 5 shots. Any tips on aiming while moving at high speeds and jumping ?

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Posted 19 May 2013 - 09:34 PM

View Poststjobe, on 19 May 2013 - 01:09 AM, said:

Ridiculous.

There's only about 10% light 'mechs left in the game, are you trying to get rid of the last of us?

Light 'mechs, just like any other 'mech, should be aiming to kill every enemy 'mech, no matter what weight class.

It also happens that both Liege and Tesfurdo are right; a light isn't the ideal 'mech to go after another light, that's normally much more efficiently done by a fast medium.


Leige and Tesfurdo said they don't like fighting lights in their spider. because the spider is the worst light at fighting other lights. after patch i expect to see a massive influx of Jenners back in the field, with BAP so they can kick the 3L of its high and mighty pedestal.

To each their own. our light pilots frequently go take on enemy lights/ fast mediums so they can do their work unmolested later. of course im usually helping too, laying out missile volleys so they have more to worry about (used to work better, of course... we all remember the days of "oops i one shot that commando...")

Though, with the current matchmaker thinking its funny to give one team 2 jenners, a raven and 2 cicada's against mostly heavy and assault mechs, its impossible to plan exactly what to do before match anymore.

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Posted 19 May 2013 - 11:19 PM

View PostHaji1096, on 19 May 2013 - 06:24 PM, said:

I just tried the ER PPC Spider 5 V build today.

I hit about 1 out of every 5 shots. Any tips on aiming while moving at high speeds and jumping ?

1st you cannot have ppc in 5V, only in 5D.

how to improve your aiming? play 50 more games in that mech and should have way better hit ratio already.

View PostFerrolupisXIII, on 19 May 2013 - 09:34 PM, said:


Leige and Tesfurdo said they don't like fighting lights in their spider. because the spider is the worst light at fighting other lights. after patch i expect to see a massive influx of Jenners back in the field, with BAP so they can kick the 3L of its high and mighty pedestal.

To each their own. our light pilots frequently go take on enemy lights/ fast mediums so they can do their work unmolested later. of course im usually helping too, laying out missile volleys so they have more to worry about (used to work better, of course... we all remember the days of "oops i one shot that commando...")

Though, with the current matchmaker thinking its funny to give one team 2 jenners, a raven and 2 cicada's against mostly heavy and assault mechs, its impossible to plan exactly what to do before match anymore.

Spider can challenge any light...
...Without streaks and win

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Posted 19 May 2013 - 11:24 PM

I have a PPC Spider 5D w ECM... and 255 is the best I've done so far since its a pretty new build... (it takes good aiming skills, mine are just average), but people in my unit regularly do 400-600 damage with them. One unit member has a comando with ppc and ecm and hits the 700+ dmg quite often. But he's got really, really good aim and is a quality pilot.

Lights can be a true terror to the enemy when deployed correctly.

#34 Tesfurdo

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Posted 20 May 2013 - 08:33 AM

View PostCurccu, on 19 May 2013 - 11:19 PM, said:

Spider can challenge any light...
...Without streaks and win


Very true... but I just can't... well not properly. I'm still learning light mechs after a switch from heavies and assaults.... but the main reason I switched is because assaults and even some of the slower heavies just aren't fun to play any more. IMO.

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Posted 20 May 2013 - 09:00 AM

Sometimes a perfect combination of circumstances and events can lead to something like this.

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Posted 20 May 2013 - 11:36 AM

Enough said?

You can do 800 damage in a spider...that's all it said to me. There are plenty of other factors one must consider, otherwise it's just speculation, and I speculate the opposing team wasn't that great to begin with.

I can do 900 damage with a single small laser in a match.

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Posted 20 May 2013 - 11:42 AM

View PostCurccu, on 19 May 2013 - 11:19 PM, said:

Spider can challenge any light...
...Without streaks and win


Maybe you're a better spider pilot. but in so far as I've seen, most spiders run hell for leather when a Jenner or Raven show up. and the light pilots i know frequently just tear them to pieces. *shrug*

Pilot skill is HUGE in this game. yes, a well piloted spider can do good work. (see O.P.?) but I'd rather see that good pilot in a good mech. and lets face it. the spider series is not top teir.

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Posted 20 May 2013 - 11:53 AM

You can fire 300 times with the beam duration fully on another mech in 15 minutes?

You do realize that's firing once every second, right?

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Posted 20 May 2013 - 12:14 PM

I managed a 900+ point in a C-3M, with just 4 Md Lsrs and 5 kills. Two were Hgh, one STK, and two Med Mechs (Hunch/Cent?)

I got really lucky as the assault pilots were all novice, the meds were already critted.

Don't ask me how my teammates managed to either do far less damage and or die...I was in a PUG at the time and not in a usual Clan lance/wing drop. I was surprised as all hell when I saw the final score. (yes I have a screen shot)

Edited by 8100d 5p4tt3r, 20 May 2013 - 12:15 PM.


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Posted 21 May 2013 - 07:04 AM

I don't have nearly the success you have with this build yet. (my ELO is WAY to high for me on lights. Either that or I keep getting stuck with awful PUGs.)

But, this is a HELLA fun build. I'm actually running this on all three versions of my spider (minus the ECM for two of them) and I try it with both XL and STD engines.

Surprisingly, the XL versions don't die nearly as early as I though they would.

On the STD versions since I save weight from the ECM, medium laser in the Center Torso help maintain Zombie mode after the ER PPC has been destroyed.





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