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[MuKen]

Assuming nothing else about them was changed.

Note: the purpose of this thread is not to propose any particular "fix" to pulse lasers, only to consider whether or not they bring enough advantages to merit what they cost.

Edited by MuKen, 23 May 2013 - 05:53 PM.

[Soy]

Dumb.

[MuKen]

Shoo. Your stalking is getting tiresome.

[Roland]

It is unlikely that they will change the weight, as that screws up stock builds.

I would suggest, instead, they increase the range.

[o8oo Anarch]

You missed the "I already do" option.

[MuKen]

o8oo Anarch, on 23 May 2013 - 05:52 PM, said:

You missed the "I already do" option.

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[Deathlike]

For the SPL , no, since you're trading heat for a slightly lower duration.

For the MPL, no, since the DPS/HPS is still bad.

For the LPL, I'd consider it, but the range is rather poor.

Edited by Deathlike, 23 May 2013 - 05:56 PM.

[FupDup]

Roland, on 23 May 2013 - 05:51 PM, said:

It is unlikely that they will change the weight, as that screws up stock builds.

I would suggest, instead, they increase the range.

For the stock builds they could just do this *magical* thing called using the spare tonnage on other things like more heat sinks and ammo.

Note that I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with the tonnage reduction idea, I'm just saying that who cares if a stock build carries more ammo/HS/whatever than it did in TT?

[Svalfangr]

I use LPLs on my Atlas D-DC and i love them.

I tried using ERLL and Reg LL but they didnt have the feel that LPLs do.

I know a lot of people dont like them but i think they are great.

[o8oo Anarch]

MuKen, on 23 May 2013 - 05:53 PM, said:

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V.nice

To be more helpful: The change it would bring for me is that my current pulse using mechs would add extra heat sinks and my none pulse would remain unchanged.

[MuKen]

Just to reiterate what I said in the OP, I am not saying we should lower weight. I am just polling how good people think the OTHER tradeoffs of the pulse lasers are.

[Soy]

MuKen, on 23 May 2013 - 05:51 PM, said:

Shoo. Your stalking is getting tiresome.

I feel the same way about awful suggestions.

[MuKen]

Soy, on 23 May 2013 - 05:56 PM, said:

I feel the same way about awful suggestions.

That's good, keep bumping them. And as I said "this is not a suggestion"

Edited by MuKen, 23 May 2013 - 06:01 PM.

[Sug]

I feel that the weights are appropriate. The only thing that punches me in the face is the 7 ton weight of the LPL. But remember that the clan versions of Large Lasers are lighter already, 4 tons for LL and 6 tons for the LPL.

If the LPL had it's beam duration reduced to 0.50 sec I'd consider it worth the weight.

Edited by Sug, 23 May 2013 - 06:03 PM.

[Metafox]

Now that you mention it, pulse lasers would probably be pretty well-balanced if they weighed the same as standard lasers. They do slightly more damage with a shorter duration, but they are hotter and have a shorter range. I'd probably still stick with standard lasers in most of my builds, but I might be able benefit from lighter pulse lasers in a few places.

[Soy]

MuKen, on 23 May 2013 - 06:00 PM, said:

That's good, keep bumping them. And as I said "this is not a suggestion"

Of course it's good, we're having discussions. People expressing opinions. I think this is a dumb ******* suggestion, that's my opinion. Nothing personal.

[MuKen]

Soy, on 23 May 2013 - 06:04 PM, said:

Of course it's good, we're having discussions. People expressing opinions. I think this is a dumb ******* suggestion, that's my opinion. Nothing personal.

Well now I'm just confused again about your "stop expressing stuff" stance.

And for the fourth time now, this isn't a suggestion.

Edited by MuKen, 23 May 2013 - 06:06 PM.

[Soy]

I think they're tiresome and awful, thusly, I'd love to see you come up with something better. Til then, this sucks *** but good try.

[MuKen]

Soy, on 23 May 2013 - 06:06 PM, said:

I think they're tiresome and awful, thusly, I'd love to see you come up with something better. Til then, this sucks *** but good try.

What's "this"? As I've said repeeatedly the purpose here is not to suggest anything. It is only to discuss just how bad the current balance is. I don't know why "this is not a suggestion" is so difficult to understand.

[Soy]

******** is this SemanticsWars?

Your idea is ******* dumb.

That's my opinion.

I appreciate your spirit and concern and passion for the game, but this is a dumb ******* idea.