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#1 Mellostomp

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 11:04 AM

Ok,

what i want is a mech with JJ, 95ish kph, and a gauss with some lasers.

Or a dragon with JJ.

Which chasis do i want?

Please help me with a chasis and loadout.

I love you guys.

Mello

#2 Deathlike

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 11:08 AM

There are no Dragons with JJs.

The best mech that fits your criteria is the Spider-5K. I'm not kidding. There's also the Raven-4X...

Couldn't figure out a 5K build worth speaking of, so I put together this creation of woe:
RVN-4X

Edited by Deathlike, 28 May 2013 - 11:19 AM.


#3 Kilroy

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 11:09 AM

At the moment I think the closest mech to what you want might be a Black Jack BJ-1.

You'll only go about 80 but with speed tweak you can get up to around 90.

You could do it with a Cataphract 3D I suppose, but I personally think those are terrible mechs. The low arms and enormous torsos make it hard to fire and easy to be hit. I think they're also very slow, but I've haven't used a 3D before.

Edited by Kilroy, 28 May 2013 - 11:10 AM.


#4 Mellostomp

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 11:09 AM

i know there are no DraGONS with JJ. what would be the equvalent??
Is there something coming in the future that might be what i want?


Still love you guys!

;)

Edited by Mellostomp, 28 May 2013 - 11:11 AM.


#5 LordBraxton

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 11:11 AM

Phract 3-D

Kilroy if you think the cataphract is a 'terrible' mech I think you smoke the meth

you might not LIKE the phract

but it is the most balanced mech in game right now

a 3-D loaded with 4PPCs and JJs still goes 76kph

a Phract 1-X can drop the JJs to carry 4PPCs and go 86.6kph

PPCs are so good not even gauss is worth the weight IMO

Phract is best mech for newer players

period.

obviously any phract can carry 2ppcs\gauss

and do it damned well

with that weapon loadout each variant does something special in my garage

the 1-X uses more engine space to be speedy

the 3-D has jump jets to pop-tart

the 2-X carries 2 streaks to chase lights and spiders away

the 4-X is garbage don't trust anyone who says its good

Edited by LordBraxton, 28 May 2013 - 11:13 AM.


#6 nubcake

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 11:14 AM

As close as it gets
If you'd rather have a BJ ;)

Edited by nubcake, 28 May 2013 - 11:18 AM.


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Posted 28 May 2013 - 11:17 AM

Well, you can make a fast Dragon with one Gauss and one ERPPC, but not much else. And no jump jets. It can be pretty deadly if you can aim while running. Quick and dirty: DRG-1C

Edited by Modo44, 28 May 2013 - 11:19 AM.


#8 Kilroy

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 11:21 AM

Here's a build for the BJ I quickly did in Smurfy. I run a similar build with an AC20.

You can kind of ignore the armour values, I couldn't get smurfy to cooperate with me on that.

It should give you a good idea of what you can do anyways.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...67bd5ac73cdf2a1

View PostLordBraxton, on 28 May 2013 - 11:11 AM, said:

Phract 3-D

Kilroy if you think the cataphract is a 'terrible' mech I think you smoke the meth


I've killed too many to think they're anything but terrible. ;)

#9 LordBraxton

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 11:25 AM

View PostKilroy, on 28 May 2013 - 11:21 AM, said:

Here's a build for the BJ I quickly did in Smurfy. I run a similar build with an AC20.

You can kind of ignore the armour values, I couldn't get smurfy to cooperate with me on that.

It should give you a good idea of what you can do anyways.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...67bd5ac73cdf2a1



I've killed too many to think they're anything but terrible. ;)


If you play enough MWO you kill every mech a bajillion times

Wait...

are you linking him a build

OF THE BLACKJACK?!?!?!

AFTER CLAIMING THE CATAPHRACT SUCKS?!?!?

I AM AT A LOSS.....

SOMEONE HELP ME

OP do not buy

any mediums as your starter mech

mediums require the best pilots in the game to be useful at all, trumped only by the spider

start with a (NON DRAGON) heavy, you won't regret it

Cataphract is best starter mech bar none

these people who claim otherwise just want more easy targets in game

if not a phract go for an assault, but stalkers and highlanders are expensive

Edited by LordBraxton, 28 May 2013 - 11:27 AM.


#10 Mellostomp

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 11:35 AM

ok bj 1 looks good. what if i want bap with it?

#11 Mechteric

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 11:39 AM

View PostMellostomp, on 28 May 2013 - 11:35 AM, said:

ok bj 1 looks good. what if i want bap with it?


you can put BAP on any mech, but if you don't have missiles there's little point in mounting BAP (unless you just want the extra radar range for sniping)

Edited by CapperDeluxe, 28 May 2013 - 11:39 AM.


#12 Deathlike

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 11:40 AM

I think you're asking for too much. You are better off aiming for getting the GXP for the Sensor Range Module and eventually the Advanced Sensor Range Module. That would be more beneficial than BAP, unless you're using for something other than increasing radar range (which is what the Advanced Sensor Range Module is all about).

#13 Kilroy

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 11:41 AM

View PostMellostomp, on 28 May 2013 - 11:35 AM, said:

ok bj 1 looks good. what if i want bap with it?


Well a Beagle Active Probe really only helps missiles builds. It does counter ECM but ECM has little effect on a laser/ballistic build.

If you'd like it anyways you could strip out a heat sink and maybe a little armour from the cockpit to free up the weight.

The gauss rifle is heat neutral so heat isn't a big issue with this mech, so long as you have the minimum number of heat sinks for your engine. Just be careful with the medium lasers' heat.

#14 WVAnonymous

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 01:55 PM

View PostKilroy, on 28 May 2013 - 11:41 AM, said:


Well a Beagle Active Probe really only helps missiles builds. It does counter ECM but ECM has little effect on a laser/ballistic build.

If you'd like it anyways you could strip out a heat sink and maybe a little armour from the cockpit to free up the weight.

The gauss rifle is heat neutral so heat isn't a big issue with this mech, so long as you have the minimum number of heat sinks for your engine. Just be careful with the medium lasers' heat.


It's always worth going to double heat sinks when you have the money. After the first 1000 drops or so you quit worrying so much about the cost.





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