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I Just Reallized Erppc Have A Min Range, But Ppcs Still Do Damage At Point Blank.


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#41 cyberFluke

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 05:15 PM

View PostPhoenix Gray, on 29 May 2013 - 04:11 PM, said:

Training grounds?


It's possible, I don't deny, but would be far easier with a fully armoured target that can report what they see. Besides, the hit detection issue like can't be reproduced with stationary, non-live targets. (I've tried). I suspect desync and unsteady ping to be the culprit, but you know, only got Training Grounds....

Edited by cyberFluke, 29 May 2013 - 05:16 PM.


#42 Mavek

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 05:31 PM

Lot of good feedback here. The more I think about it, it seems like a hit detection issue. I know it's not perfect, but I thought it was more reliable than it is. I've heard grumbles about it before, but it had never been quite as blatant as in this particular instance to me. I know that fast movers still cause hit detection issues, but I hadn't seen a stationary target shrug off obvious hits like this before.

I spose its wrong of me to expect that when my target's armor burns bright right where my eyes saw my shot hit, that the game will actually reward me with damage done to that target...

Hopefully they are still working on this and will get it right soon.

Thanks again guys.

#43 OneEyed Jack

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 07:00 PM

View Postjeffsw6, on 29 May 2013 - 04:45 PM, said:

PPC ought to have less damage inside 180m or so, and do zero damage inside 90m.

This would basically turn those weapons into almost dedicated sniper weapons, which is really what they should be.

No, they shouldn't be.

As has been pointed out many times, this is not CoD. There are no snipers. There are simply people that choose to use weapons with range and play a sniper-like role. Likewise, and more to the point, there are no sniper rifles, and nor should there be. These are giant walking tanks, not guys crawling around in ghillie suits with big, bulky long rifles. Furthermore, even if there were snipers and sniper rifles, it certainly wouldn't be one that's out-ranged by double.

Just because in your head, people using PPC's are "snipers" does not mean that a basic utilitarian weapon should be re-designed to fit your image of what a "sniper" carries.

#44 Vareli

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 07:42 PM

Confirmed this in testing grounds.

ERPPC does no damage inside of 90m where as it should.

Standard PPCs do damage at point blank range. Damage is reduced, but it still does damage.

Havent made a video showing this. Suppose I could later.

#45 Disapirro

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 07:48 PM

In game I have killed plenty with ERPPC at point blank. Must something off with testing ground.

#46 Profiteer

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 07:59 PM

I've been having serious problems with ER-PPCs not doing damage at close range.

#47 Filth Pig

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 08:19 PM

Pics or ****!

#48 t9nv3

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 08:55 PM

I run a spider with an ERPPC and I've been expereincing the same issue for a while now. Every so often, when I hit at close range, I see the animation as my shot clearly explodes on the armour, but the reticle wont turn red and no damage gets applied. I find it annoying, but not a top priority by any stretch of the immagination. Not sure how frequently this happens, but I tend to notice the failures more than the actual hits, so I might be biased.

Edited by t9nv3, 11 June 2013 - 08:59 PM.


#49 Alex Warden

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 09:38 PM

View PostMavek, on 28 May 2013 - 09:02 PM, said:

yeah, i know all about PPCs/ERPPCs. I was there in 1985 when the CBT came out. What I am saying is that in this game, when I shoot people with ERPPCs at close range, they do little or no damage. When I shoot people with PPCs at the same range, they do far more visible damage, when they should be doing no damage at all.

i can confirm that ERPPC´s often dont register at close range. I stood in front of an atlas on RCN and shot him like 5 times to the chest, no registration... i then aimed slightly lower, and BAM, i hit (note:my gauss/AC combo registered all shots on the same spot)... strange, but it has been that way for a while...ERPPC/ PPC always had a bad hit detection from what i know

Edited by Alex Warden, 11 June 2013 - 09:40 PM.






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