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[Alexandrix]

IceSerpent, on 31 May 2013 - 10:56 AM, said:

If you had spent more than 2 seconds reading this thread, you would have realized that we were talking about ERPPCs, not regular ones. Besides, the viability of an Atlas with less than 325 engine is highly debatable.

The point of the thread actually,was alpha boating.rather it's 4 ppc's or 4 erppc's doesn't change that.It's still min/maxing.which is pretty much all you see in your standard pug match now days.when more than 50% of the mechs in a match are nothing but alpha boats,which is not at all uncommon in my experience,it's a problem.This isn't battletech/mechwarrior.It's CoD/counterstrike in robots.

[Yanlowen Cage]

Alexandrix, on 31 May 2013 - 11:03 AM, said:

The point of the thread actually,was alpha boating.rather it's 4 ppc's or 4 erppc's doesn't change that.It's still min/maxing.which is pretty much all you see in your standard pug match now days.when more than 50% of the mechs in a match are nothing but alpha boats,which is not at all uncommon in my experience,it's a problem.This isn't battletech/mechwarrior.It's CoD/counterstrike in robots.

Thank you I don't have the ability to put things as clearly as you did. That is exactly my point. Thanks again.

[IceSerpent]

Alexandrix, on 31 May 2013 - 11:03 AM, said:

The point of the thread actually,was alpha boating.rather it's 4 ppc's or 4 erppc's doesn't change that.It's still min/maxing.which is pretty much all you see in your standard pug match now days.when more than 50% of the mechs in a match are nothing but alpha boats,which is not at all uncommon in my experience,it's a problem.This isn't battletech/mechwarrior.It's CoD/counterstrike in robots.

Wait, you are saying that the whole point was to tell us something we already know and have been complaining about for the past two months? That's not much of a point, to be honest.

[Alexandrix]

IceSerpent, on 31 May 2013 - 02:04 PM, said:

Wait, you are saying that the whole point was to tell us something we already know and have been complaining about for the past two months? That's not much of a point, to be honest.

Not my thread.just pointing out the op's orginal intention,since you seem to have missed it the first time.

[RG Notch]

Mister Blastman, on 31 May 2013 - 08:59 AM, said:

OP:

It is crap like this that makes me enjoy MechWarrior Living Legends even more.

So, why not spend your time more productively on their obviously thriving forums. How's that next update looking?

[IceSerpent]

Alexandrix, on 31 May 2013 - 02:12 PM, said:

Not my thread.just pointing out the op's orginal intention,since you seem to have missed it the first time.

I didn't miss it, but the only part worth commenting on was that mention of 4 erppc + gauss Atlas. The rest has already been discussed about a hundred times (yes, PGI broke short range weapons, which caused sniper configs to be FOTM due to no other options being available; no, we don't know if/when it will get fixed).

[Corvus Antaka]

this is ridiculous. any more than 3 ppc is barely viable. yes, there is a problem, PGI has already stated they are working on a fix. go check the right forum and get back to it.

[Goose]

PPCs, like all the non-energy weapons in the game, ignore the "twisting" defensive technique that some bright boy though up in the face of a Swayback. And while poptarting is about overheating in cover, PPCs will continue to show up on smaller and smaller 'Mechs until something is done to make laser boats feel as though they have moar punch.

Even if that would be contrary to the "overall too much damage" thing we heard about from on-high …

[Roadbuster]

Livewyr, on 31 May 2013 - 07:35 AM, said:

It's just you. PPCs are fine. Alphastrike boating is fine. Nothing to see here except whiners. *barf*

Well, it's nothing new that people boat PPCs on every mech from Spider to Atlas.
I have a few mechs which use PPCs too but I refuse to run the FOTM builds.
Ha! One of my teammates even got offensive yesterday because I wasn't using PPC and Gauss on my Highlander. I lol'd.

PGI is working on a limiting factor for boating/alpha striking and maybe we will have viable LRMs someday. Maybe players will even get tired of running the same loadout on every mech and notice that it's more fun to try different things.

For now, all you can do is: swim against the stream, run different loadouts and blast the FOTM builds to pieces till they learn.

[johnyboy420]

140 bucks in Roberts game hell ya boi

[Carrioncrows]

I've had to switch my Awesome over to FIVE PPC's just to stay competitive.

Everyone else laughs at medium lasers no matter how many you have.

[Gelion]

Carrioncrows, on 01 June 2013 - 03:19 AM, said:

I've had to switch my Awesome over to FIVE PPC's just to stay competitive.

Everyone else laughs at medium lasers no matter how many you have.

Awesome 8Q with large lasers is perfectly viable. I do not run FOTM builds and have my aws-8R in a srm brawler spec. They are working on the poptarting and high alpha builds, they will end, and according to PGI balance would probably be run into the ground. For now, just waiting till others engage and then engaging while the enemy is engaged. There is a problem, it is being fixed. The A1 is only a major problem in coordinated group play, otherwise just stay 270m away. With the jagermech, everyone with some experience knows that it is a weapons platform, and under heavy fire dies fairly quickly, especially the double ac-20 build which is normally an xl engine.

[Sable]

Carrioncrows, on 01 June 2013 - 03:19 AM, said:

I've had to switch my Awesome over to FIVE PPC's just to stay competitive.

Everyone else laughs at medium lasers no matter how many you have.

OH really??? 4 medium lasers are equal in damage to 2 ppcs. Sure they have less range but are way more heat efficient. Learn to hold on target and you will find success. You guys must be in a completely different elo than me. I see variety in builds everywhere but i also play conquest so variety in builds are a must. Although i prefer heavies and assaults i've been running a light mech in a wolf pack with some friends, Troll those assaults so much while we pick them apart and when those ppc/gauss builds can't land a hit we laugh and laugh while they die to mechs 1/4th their weight.

Edited by Sable, 01 June 2013 - 10:10 AM.

[scJazz]

Sable, on 01 June 2013 - 10:08 AM, said:

OH really??? 4 medium lasers are equal in damage to 2 ppcs. Sure they have less range but are way more heat efficient. Learn to hold on target and you will find success. You guys must be in a completely different elo than me. I see variety in builds everywhere but i also play conquest so variety in builds are a must. Although i prefer heavies and assaults i've been running a light mech in a wolf pack with some friends, Troll those assaults so much while we pick them apart and when those ppc/gauss builds can't land a hit we laugh and laugh while they die to mechs 1/4th their weight.

Yes I'm sure your excellent with MLs. However, in patting yourself on the back you completely missed the point. Double even triple the range with very fast "bullet" obviating the need to even bother staying on target... yeah PPCs rock. I don't use them but they do rock.