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[Deathlike]

I'm starting to wonder if Bryan is gonna post the AtD on time. After all, he has only 5 questions to answer thoroughly.. and I bet it'll set a new bar... (and this bar will be much lower than the monthly dev update).

[DeathofSelf]

Deathlike, on 12 July 2013 - 02:26 PM, said:

I'm starting to wonder if Bryan is gonna post the AtD on time. After all, he has only 5 questions to answer thoroughly.. and I bet it'll set a new bar... (and this bar will be much lower than the monthly dev update).

I wouldn't be surprised at this point

[Wintersdark]

KnightedChaos, on 12 July 2013 - 02:10 PM, said:

I was going to say Assassin's Creed, as it came out of the Canadian division of Ubisoft but Ubisoft itself is actually french

Still a Canadian studio that made it.

See also: All the good titles Bioware made - Dragon Age, Mass Effect, KotoR.

[Deathlike]

DeathofSelf, on 12 July 2013 - 02:28 PM, said:

I wouldn't be surprised at this point

I'm shocked the AtD didn't disappoint.

[DeathofSelf]

Deathlike, on 12 July 2013 - 02:51 PM, said:

I'm shocked the AtD didn't disappoint.

Indeed, although, the first answer was a little disappointing

[101011]

If by a little you mean a lot. "You wanted to know whether it would be in-game by launch? I'll tell you what stage half your items are at, and ignore the others". A pity, too, cause I really wanted to know.

[Deathlike]

DeathofSelf, on 12 July 2013 - 02:52 PM, said:

Indeed, although, the first answer was a little disappointing

101011, on 12 July 2013 - 03:02 PM, said:

If by a little you mean a lot. "You wanted to know whether it would be in-game by launch? I'll tell you what stage half your items are at, and ignore the others". A pity, too, cause I really wanted to know.

This is one of the few times I will play the "White Knight" (it's easy to be the antagonist).

The thing is in software development... poop happens. Sometimes things may simply take longer than it should to be accomplish. It doesn't mean the person or people responsible for getting it done is incompetent.. rather there is a series of processes that must occur to ensure that a change doesn't just break the game (I mean, serious stability, and a crapload of stuff that isn't working as intended™ ). In this sense, delays are inevitable and people have to deal with it.

With that said, the things that are more important to me like balance (currently being near the top of the list) is not being addressed... and Paul is mostly (if not completely) responsible for that. His deadlines are pretty much on time (outside of not having an ECM command post months earlier). Paul's balance changes leave a lot to be desired.

There is a separation of what is done and what is actually done. I would rather people get 90+% of something right instead of 100% of something that is totally dumb (like Paul's heat proposal). That's just the heart of the matter....

Edited by Deathlike, 12 July 2013 - 03:19 PM.

[Deathlike]

With respect to "any sort of July dev update"... I think the community at this point can construct that post, given all the info that has been provided lately.

There's also Syllogy's thread as well.

[Gregory Owen]

Deathlike, on 12 July 2013 - 03:12 PM, said:

This is one of the few times I will play the "White Knight" (it's easy to be the antagonist).

The thing is in software development... poop happens. Sometimes things may simply take longer than it should to be accomplish. It doesn't mean the person or people responsible for getting it done is incompetent.. rather there is a series of processes that must occur to ensure that a change doesn't just break the game (I mean, serious stability, and a crapload of stuff that isn't working as intended™ ). In this sense, delays are inevitable and people have to deal with it.

With that said, the things that are more important to me like balance (currently being near the top of the list) is not being addressed... and Paul is mostly (if not completely) responsible for that. His deadlines are pretty much on time (outside of not having an ECM command post months earlier). Paul's balance changes leave a lot to be desired.

There is a separation of what is done and what is actually done. I would rather people get 90+% of something right instead of 100% of something that is totally dumb (like Paul's heat proposal). That's just the heart of the matter....

i completely agree with you,but I think what puts the community in an uproar is the lack of transperancy. if they just told us exactly what was going on and what people were working on we could talk constructively about things because we'd have a base to make assumptions of off, instead we get very vague answers or none at all which leads to pure speculation and that tends to go negative quickly.

they closest they've come is when he just mentioned the new intern will be but to work fixing some of the terrain collision stuff.

Russ should be trying to sell us this like Walt Disney sold people on disneyland , show us what the artists are doing, tease us with something, show us what "john doe" is doing over in texturing this week, or what "jane doe" is doing in animation.

in a nutshell, they suck at PR and really need to change the way the wrangle the community.

[New Day]

wickwire, on 12 July 2013 - 02:22 PM, said:

Agreed, Bioware.

Quite a few big names in here: http://en.wikipedia....anies_of_Canada

Bioware is not what it used to be.

[101011]

Deathlike, on 12 July 2013 - 03:12 PM, said:

This is one of the few times I will play the "White Knight" (it's easy to be the antagonist).

The thing is in software development... poop happens. Sometimes things may simply take longer than it should to be accomplish. It doesn't mean the person or people responsible for getting it done is incompetent.. rather there is a series of processes that must occur to ensure that a change doesn't just break the game (I mean, serious stability, and a crapload of stuff that isn't working as intended™ ). In this sense, delays are inevitable and people have to deal with it.

With that said, the things that are more important to me like balance (currently being near the top of the list) is not being addressed... and Paul is mostly (if not completely) responsible for that. His deadlines are pretty much on time (outside of not having an ECM command post months earlier). Paul's balance changes leave a lot to be desired.

There is a separation of what is done and what is actually done. I would rather people get 90+% of something right instead of 100% of something that is totally dumb (like Paul's heat proposal). That's just the heart of the matter....

I will admit that I find myself being more negative then I would like, but...I'm just pretty disappointed, you know? It's a basic yes/no question. I liked the rest of the answers, and, I quote from the topic: "I must say, I'm kind of disappointed by the answer to Bill's question. The other's were great, and over all I think this is one of the better ATD's, but Bill asked for a definite yes/no, not a timeline. I mean, the timeline is cool and all, but combined with the absence of most of the things he asked about, such as: toggles for TAG/AMS, targeting friendlies, 4x zoom, report functionality, prefix tags, minimap zoom, or integrated voice chat (I really don't think C3 counts), it just seems to leave half the question unanswered." I just don't get why they can't do this. I mean, even if they put no for everything and then explained why it wouldn't, I would have minded, but to leave us guessing on whether they can make the deadline... I don't get it, I really don't.

[Deathlike]

101011, on 12 July 2013 - 06:53 PM, said:

I will admit that I find myself being more negative then I would like, but...I'm just pretty disappointed, you know? It's a basic yes/no question. I liked the rest of the answers, and, I quote from the topic: "I must say, I'm kind of disappointed by the answer to Bill's question. The other's were great, and over all I think this is one of the better ATD's, but Bill asked for a definite yes/no, not a timeline. I mean, the timeline is cool and all, but combined with the absence of most of the things he asked about, such as: toggles for TAG/AMS, targeting friendlies, 4x zoom, report functionality, prefix tags, minimap zoom, or integrated voice chat (I really don't think C3 counts), it just seems to leave half the question unanswered." I just don't get why they can't do this. I mean, even if they put no for everything and then explained why it wouldn't, I would have minded, but to leave us guessing on whether they can make the deadline... I don't get it, I really don't.

The thing is... it's trending on a whole lot of "no". It is unlikely they will get anything of use by their own deadline (which is probably IGP influenced and marketed).

Considering that their UI overhaul has dependencies on other stuff such as CW to operate correctly... you simply cannot guarantee anything. There is no ETA for something you have no idea how long it will take. That's the scary truth. Sometimes you can have an idea of how long, but even then, any hint of trouble can cause one to spend more time than they would like...

Gregory Owen, on 12 July 2013 - 05:30 PM, said:

in a nutshell, they suck at PR and really need to change the way the wrangle the community.

Oh, they definitely suck at PR, and I don't believe they don't know how to address it.

[Tekadept]

Just checking to see if they have the updated the update about their being no update?

[LockeJaw]

Deathlike, on 12 July 2013 - 02:26 PM, said:

I'm starting to wonder if Bryan is gonna post the AtD on time. After all, he has only 5 questions to answer thoroughly.. and I bet it'll set a new bar... (and this bar will be much lower than the monthly dev update).

B/c no one cares anymore. Hell, this is my first day on the forums in a few weeks. Mass Effect 3 multiplayer is actually quite fun!

[The Trice]

[POWR]

In this thread: Extreme rudeness, ridiculously impolite posts and complete disregard for other people. Good on you, gamers!

[101011]

POWR, on 14 July 2013 - 04:52 AM, said:

In this thread: Extreme rudeness, ridiculously impolite posts and complete disregard for other people. Good on you, gamers!

Most people consider it rude to apply labels to everyone who posted in the 54 pages of this thread. I'm sure you can find at least one post that doesn't apply.

[Amsro]

POWR, on 14 July 2013 - 04:52 AM, said:

In this thread: Extreme rudeness, ridiculously impolite posts and complete disregard for other people. Good on you, gamers!

While those may happen from time to time, you'll find that the opposite is generally true. This thread is currently just a troll thread for those waiting on July CDU.

Speaking of July CDU.... ahh forget it , just gonna enjoy the victors.

[ICEFANG13]

Edited by ICEFANG13, 14 July 2013 - 09:20 AM.

[The Trice]

ICEFANG13, on 14 July 2013 - 09:20 AM, said:

They may actuallydo it this way i mean the 2nd patch is coming on 16 june and its 14 right now , i mean its 2 days left to post CDU for it to make sense , or tell us that there is no CDU this month instead of ignoring us as fools