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[Fooooo]

The orion was not delayed.

It was scrapped!

In favor of a real 75T mech!!

That will be invisible to avoid legal issues.

[Sephlock]

Fooooo, on 08 June 2013 - 11:01 PM, said:

The orion was not delayed.

It was scrapped!

In favor of a real 75T mech!!

That will be invisible to avoid legal issues.

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Rakshasa

[SgtMagor]

time to get my Arty practice in, some sweet splash damage ready to be served! a real 75ton mech heh!

Edited by SgtMagor, 09 June 2013 - 06:07 AM.

[CMDR Sunset Shimmer]

Whatever... The Orion is the mech I'm waiting for, I'm not spending a single cent more on this game till it comes out.

Screw your Quickdraw, screw your clan mechs, screw every piece of equipment you throw into the game.

The ONLY thing PGI could do to get my money outside of the Orion release, is Unseen Warhammer and Marauder.

That's all they have left to get my money.

Edited by Jade Kitsune, 09 June 2013 - 10:58 PM.

[Anjian]

I can trade the Orion for an Archer. Archers are long overdue in MWO and are supposed to work in tendem with Trebuchets. Don't worry, the Archer has similar basic specs to the Orion.

[One Medic Army]

Honestly, much more excited about the Victor, and even the Quickdraw a little (since it doesn't waste any hardpoints on heavy ballistics which would prevent it being a fast jumping 60tonner).
I'm not quite sure what an Orion could do that a Cataphract couldn't other than be 5 tons heavier.

[Sephlock]

One Medic Army, on 09 June 2013 - 11:24 PM, said:

other than be 5 tons heavier.

Isn't that enough?

[One Medic Army]

Sephlock, on 09 June 2013 - 11:31 PM, said:

Isn't that enough?

Not for the Cataphract 4x compared to the Jagermech.
Not really for the Cicada compared to the Jenner either.

[Sephlock]

It's different because it occupies the sweet spot.. 75 tons. THINK OF ALL THE MISSILES YOU COULD CRAM ONTO ONE WITHOUT BEING AN ASSAULT MECH! - err, I mean...

[One Medic Army]

Sephlock, on 09 June 2013 - 11:37 PM, said:

It's different because it occupies the sweet spot.. 75 tons. THINK OF ALL THE MISSILES YOU COULD CRAM ONTO ONE WITHOUT BEING AN ASSAULT MECH! - err, I mean...

Sorry my sweet spots are 55tons and 85tons.
The biggest mech I can get before the JumpJets start weighing more.
Or if you like MASC go for 20, 40, 60, 80, and 100.

I will admit the Orion is the sweet spot for playing what's almost an assault without having to play in my assault Elo.

Edited by One Medic Army, 09 June 2013 - 11:42 PM.

[armyof1]

Massive CT looks massive I have to say, and the right side torso looks really slim compared to the left. I wonder if they can really make this mech as asymmetric as the art without it being a problem in gameplay. Oh well we'll see in Nov.

[stjobe]

Anjian, on 09 June 2013 - 11:01 PM, said:

I can trade the Orion for an Archer. Archers are long overdue in MWO and are supposed to work in tendem with Trebuchets. Don't worry, the Archer has similar basic specs to the Orion.

While I would love an Archer, it is Unseen and thus unlikely to ever be introduced.

It is based on (well, copied really) from the Macross MBR-07-Mk II Spartan Main Battle Destroid:


Also, it really doesn't "have similar specs to the Orion" - the Archer is *the* LRM boat from original BT.

Edited by stjobe, 10 June 2013 - 12:49 AM.

[Tennex]

stjobe, on 10 June 2013 - 12:48 AM, said:

While I would love an Archer, it is Unseen and thus unlikely to ever be introduced.

It is based on (well, copied really) from the Macross MBR-07-Mk II Spartan Main Battle Destroid:


Also, it really doesn't "have similar specs to the Orion" - the Archer is *the* LRM boat from original BT.

i like this version of the archer

[Belorion]

I could get behind Tennex version there. I really do think there is a modifiable art version that would work for most of the unseen.

[Tennex]

Belorion, on 10 June 2013 - 04:55 AM, said:

I could get behind Tennex version there. I really do think there is a modifiable art version that would work for most of the unseen.

Yup. artwork by shimmering sword. its based off of the reseen anyway. so i don't see any copyright issue.

but PGI are being scardie cats when it comes to anything unseen.

[Bishop Steiner]

Tennex, on 12 June 2013 - 05:48 AM, said:

Yup. artwork by shimmering sword. its based off of the reseen anyway. so i don't see any copyright issue.

but PGI are being scardie cats when it comes to anything unseen.

like most of SS's stuff, it wouldn't pass the "resemblance" factor of a copyright/trademark/patent issue. Jeep was able to successfully sue KIA for having a 7 slot grill on their Sportage, because a 7 slot grill is a jeep "visual identifier" or some such.

SS is awesome, but his takes usually are just melty/smoothed versions of the original. HG would feast.

[buttmonkey]

what makes me laugh is that the devs make out that they are doing us a favour lol. look at the posts, most people commenting want the orion. i was looking forward to a 75 ton mech but instead we get the quickcored.

[Sephlock]

buttmonkey, on 12 June 2013 - 02:09 PM, said:

what makes me laugh is that the devs make out that they are doing us a favour lol. look at the posts, most people commenting want the orion. i was looking forward to a 75 ton mech but instead we get the quickcored.

I think its more an issue of presenting a united front and/or falling in line.

What exactly are they supposed to say? There's probably some other reason for the delay that they don't want to/can't tell us.

[Tremendous Upside]

One Medic Army, on 09 June 2013 - 11:24 PM, said:

Honestly, much more excited about the Victor, and even the Quickdraw a little (since it doesn't waste any hardpoints on heavy ballistics which would prevent it being a fast jumping 60tonner).
I'm not quite sure what an Orion could do that a Cataphract couldn't other than be 5 tons heavier.

I think you're dead on with this. Don't get me wrong, I really wanted to have the Orion available - but the 75 tons you'll get with it seems like it'll be close to a "wash" vs. the Cataphract. You'll need a 300-size engine to run it at the same default speed - and heavier to go faster, so that extra 5 tons, a lot of that's already spoken-for. If you're talking about standard engines, you're looking at a difference of 3 tons between the 280 for the CTF and the 300 for the Orion (22 tons vs. 25). The only "real" difference is going to come down to the hitboxes and hardpoints. It looks like it'll be a slightly more effective CTF-2X to me...

That said, no doubt I'll be buying the Orion when it does get released I'll happily buy the Quickdraw as well. It should be a very fun and versatile 60-tonner. Lightweight hardpoint options, high speed and armor capacities, jump jets -- what's not to love about it? People complain to no end about the PPC-happy state of the game, and then PGI gives you a 60-ton flanker/striker... I don't get the hate. This mech (and the Victor) are exactly what MWO needs to break out of the stale "walk to the front line and trade shots" mentality the game has settled into.

[Tennex]

buttmonkey, on 12 June 2013 - 02:09 PM, said:

what makes me laugh is that the devs make out that they are doing us a favour lol. look at the posts, most people commenting want the orion. i was looking forward to a 75 ton mech but instead we get the quickcored.

instead we get this ugly sob