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[Joseph Mallan]

Livewyr, on 08 June 2013 - 04:24 AM, said:

Sorry Mallan, never watched that version. Didn't want to ruin the image I had of the Good One with Gene Wilder.

(So I'm unfamiliar with the meaning of the post..)

You can use the Wilder version interchangably with the Depp version I think.

[Jonneh]

Smokeyjedi, on 08 June 2013 - 04:31 AM, said:

What point would that be, my language pack for windows 7 have gone mental, and Ive fought with it probably longer than you have played MWO, so mayb you should get on point and quit being so smug and off point..

You have no point. Your moronic attitude towards new players is the same as my ironic and sarcastic point towards your inability to articulate yourself.

I've spoiled it for you now, since its taking you a while to figure out.

Also, your language pack "has" gone mental. Not have. Also no language pack in the world will replace a firm education in the written word.

Edited by Jonneh, 08 June 2013 - 04:35 AM.

[Smokeyjedi]

Jonneh, on 08 June 2013 - 04:34 AM, said:

You have no point. Your moronic attitude towards new players is the same as my ironic and sarcastic point towards your inability to articulate yourself.

I've spoiled it for you now, since its taking you a while to figure out.

Also, your language pack "has" gone mental. Not have. Also no language pack in the world will replace a firm education in the written word.

Indeed vocabulary is important, If I had to write an essay I could. that's not what Im here for, When I press shift no key will produce its secondary functions except the number row, so get bent, you haven't proved anything, other than how high you hold yourself presumptuously, and how you suffer from small man behind a keyboard syndrom. Come off how you want to, you are safe over that keyboard. as are all other people who only focus on the person not the issue. sidetracked by some form of wrongly placed focus. you've now picked a fight and have gone way off topic. more of a personal attack, but that's fine, your mouth is obviously well ran.

Edited by Smokeyjedi, 08 June 2013 - 04:43 AM.

[Livewyr]

Smokey, please grace us with the true meaning of your Original Post.. I can't seem to find a legitimate addition to the forums anywhere in it.

[AlexEss]

MWHawke, on 08 June 2013 - 04:15 AM, said:

Coz they will pay more to win?

Yupp.. And more money means more development. And since there is nothing in the game they can actually pay for to make them win and 3 person camera does not save their arse from my dance of death i have no problem with that.

[Zerberus]

Smokeyjedi, on 08 June 2013 - 04:24 AM, said:

the drops speak for themselves, patch after patch, month after month, not my stats due to the fact that theyve been wiped 3X after they were implemented. about 10K drops after I started playing. so yeah, id say I have developed some mech control. but seeing a total lack of intuition and any kind of situational awareness is astounding, after all this is war!

AAh, I think we may be on to something...

Stats have NOT been wiped since March, before Elo MM was implemented.

How much have you played since then? I`ve seen numerous posts from people who were "high tier" players in Closed beta but havent been here for a year or more, all complaining about "getting put in with the scrubs" and quitting again after 5-10 matches, coming back 2 months later, rinse and repeat. They complain about getting put in with beginners all the time, but as far as the MM system is concerned are still beginners themselves and play less than most cadets.

This is however entirely counterproductive, because when coming back to a newly introduced Elo ranking system, you are first given the Elo of a scrub, and have to "earn" your way up like everyone else. For ex. if you have played less matches than the average cadet (25), then you are in no way entitled to matches against better players. Switching mechs during this period further compounds the issue, becasue you have 4 elo scores, one for each weight class. But it is what many do out of reflex. Play 5 matches in a Cat, think "ok, maybe I`m just too stupid fo rcatapults today, where`s my atlas" , and the whole shebang starts again from teh beginning because the Atlas is a new , unplayed under Elo weight class, and therefore starts at "scrub", exactly where the Cat istill is becasue 5 matches is not a decent size track recors, but a "quick stint in a trial mech".

Conversely, those of us that have hundreds or even thousands of matches since March provide the MM with a MUCH greater sample size to accurately determine our Elo, and as a result get fewer and fewer roflstomps every day. I also very rarely see trial mechs unless it`s me or one of my buddies testing a new chassis or just trolling.

At least that is my general impression, the people complaining the loudest about Elo are the people that took long breaks that started before Elo and ended after it was introduced, and have only played sporadically since returning, be it out of time constraints or frustration. They are essentially not even giving teh MM a fair chance to sort their skill level out, and are as a result complaining about getting put in teh same bracket with all of the other people who the mackmaker considers "unknown" factors in a a match

It may seem like complete insanity at first, but if the above applies to you all I can recommend is to play more so that the MM can start to get a feel for where you really belong

Cheers

Edited by Zerberus, 08 June 2013 - 05:21 AM.

[Smokeyjedi]

Livewyr, on 08 June 2013 - 04:41 AM, said:

Smokey, please grace us with the true meaning of your Original Post.. I can't seem to find a legitimate addition to the forums anywhere in it.

What was so difficult, you guys and your forum trolling, Let me break it down for you.........Licencing should be introduced, to keep people who have no mind about warfare or combat simulation, or self preservation, or any of the dozen or so other reasons I could name. situational awareness, or common sense, or heres a good one, teamwork.......squad based coop. Maybe it could be implemented similarily to difficulty on FPS games( seeing as this is where this MWO is headed) Arcade-mode any halfwit can drop any mech loadout, normal-mode restrictions on weapon loadouts engine sizes mix of new and old etc, and simulator mode......which would have some RP elements of seriousness to it. allowing only feasible tech. for the year of gameplay.and matchmaking is refined massively these could be given as choices to each player. at least try to corral the population where it makes sense for them. underground,amatuer,and pro.

Edited by Smokeyjedi, 08 June 2013 - 05:26 AM.

[Junkman7mgte]

Smokey .... If you don't enjoy being dropped with scrubs -- like me -- Maybe it would benefit you, to join an 8 man team, so you have the teamwork they provide.

[Soy]

Brick killed a guy... with a trident...

[Livewyr]

A forums license was referred to earlier, on page 1.. I think that one could have merit.

Different difficulty groups for forum posting based on (from most important to least)
1: A point.
2: A Basic understanding of the game, and of people.
3: A constructive goal.
4: Evidence (not based on personal anecdotes or opinions.)
5: Formatting.
6: Spelling.

Different forums for different difficulty levels of posting.
Certainly would clean up around here and make everyone's forum experience enjoyable according to their own style.

[Smokeyjedi]

Junkman7mgte, on 08 June 2013 - 05:45 AM, said:

Smokey .... If you don't enjoy being dropped with scrubs -- like me -- Maybe it would benefit you, to join an 8 man team, so you have the teamwork they provide.

I do drop with my house liao warrior squad House Ma-Tsu-Kai, but when I don't have time I like to solo drop a few matches, but that is really not endurable for much longer.......seems anyone can get their hands on a rig that will run this colossus brute of a FPS.

Livewyr, on 08 June 2013 - 06:18 AM, said:

A forums license was referred to earlier, on page 1.. I think that one could have merit.

Different difficulty groups for forum posting based on (from most important to least)
1: A point.
2: A Basic understanding of the game, and of people.
3: A constructive goal.
4: Evidence (not based on personal anecdotes or opinions.)
5: Formatting.
6: Spelling.

Different forums for different difficulty levels of posting.
Certainly would clean up around here and make everyone's forum experience enjoyable according to their own style.

See here you are again, thinking that the forum is the focus here. when it is simply the player base that were discussing. you better put the catnip down, your out in left field again, what does forum posting have to do with the fact that any dummy can get into this warzone(who gives a kangaroo an ak-47 and expects him to survive Vietnam), should be qualified somehow, right after all who likes getting shot in the back by someone who clearly cant understand that lazers into your friends back are not good. You are still choking on your need to undermine my credibility through my lack of use of grammer.

Edited by Smokeyjedi, 08 June 2013 - 06:27 AM.

[Livewyr]

Smokeyjedi, on 08 June 2013 - 06:24 AM, said:

See here you are again, thinking that the forum is the focus here. when it is simply the player base that uses the forums that were discussing. you better put the catnip down, your out in left field again, what does forum posting have to do with the fact that any dummy can get into this warzone forum, should be qualified somehow, right after all who likes getting shot in the back an elitist forum post by someone who clearly cant understand that lazers into your friends back are not formatting, and an understanding of people are good [things].

Is that a little clearer?

[GoManGo]

Smokeyjedi, on 08 June 2013 - 04:05 AM, said:

For the love of god pgi, give us a system to aquire licences so all of us veterans don't have to drop with these completely unacceptable cadets. hell they would still be in boot camp, not even close to a Mech, I have dropped over 5 drops a day for a year and a half. Why for the love of god am I still getting pug matched to half dcd mechs and completely useless tonnage(ELO GARBAGE), MAKE THIS A MATURE GAME BECAUSE AIMING @ NON COMPREHENDING DEMOGRAPHICS TARGETS IS GREEDY AS ALL HELL!!!! THEY SHOULD GO BACK TO TF2 and HAWKEN where all thos cyber-crack heads respawn a million times an hour. quit spamming our precious one of a kind batlle simulator with your 12year old spray and prey. IM OUT! NOOBZ!!!!

Well I would assume its because #1 you really suck bad at this game or #2 MM and ELO are working as intended HAHAHA ELO has to be a joke or #3 so many players are leaving this terrible grind non-meta game I wont even call it a true MechWarrior game anymore that your being matched as intended with fill ins for your ELO rating. Or its just some random person at PGI that hates your assssssss. LOL

Edited by GoManGo, 08 June 2013 - 06:31 AM.

[Livewyr]

I got it.

He's in ELO HELL.


EDIT: It has begun.

Edited by Livewyr, 08 June 2013 - 06:31 AM.

[Smokeyjedi]

GoManGo, on 08 June 2013 - 06:28 AM, said:

Well I would assume its because #1 you really suck bad at this game or #2 MM and ELO are working as intended HAHAHA ELO has to be a joke or #3 so many players are leaving this terrible grind non-meta game I wont even call it a true MechWarrior game anymore that your being matched as intended with fill ins for your ELO rating. Or its just some random person at PGI that hates your assssssss. LOL

Well there you go with your assumptions. first mistake made by most of the common population congratz, you fit in.

[GoManGo]

Smokeyjedi, on 08 June 2013 - 06:33 AM, said:

Well there you go with your assumptions. first mistake made by most of the common population congratz, you fit in.

You have to admit though im probably right on #2 and #3 we will give you a pass on #1 hahahahaha

[Smokeyjedi]

Livewyr, on 08 June 2013 - 06:28 AM, said:

Is that a little clearer?

You came into this thread with an attitude so smug, and yet you want to understand people............we have a word for that in the English language its called hypocrite. I stated that its not TF2 and that mentality is annoying at best to those of us who want to mix the seriousness of simulation(think GT5 realism), with the futuristic robots(armored core series maybe). Id prefer a clean racing sim to bumpercars online MMO racing anyday. OR MWO VS HAWKEN. It must be that actual intelligence building (or performance increasing)style of gaming that you clearly cant comprehend. I want to challenge, better, or develop something with each drop. not just stand around looking cool. mr 3K posts. always learning always consuming knowledge always getting more proficient. try and keep up.

Edited by Smokeyjedi, 08 June 2013 - 06:45 AM.

[BillyM]

To the original poster: Why don't you work to organize your team, set a plan, support your noobs (let them meat-shield), win matches, and watch your ELO pull you out of the beginner ranks? For the mean-time, take one of those mechs that just frustrates the heck out of new players (something nimble with face-punch abilities, hbk4sp for example) and get them crossed up while you destroy their newly-purchased assault chassis in half their tonnage.

A: You will get kills/wins and increase your ELO such that you aren't burdened by their ineptitude.
B: They will drop their assaults because they "turn too slow" and get in a more deserving chassis.

(if you were a man, you would post your w/l and kdr stats, so we would know if you are truly a "veteran")

--billyM
1.6avg w/l
2.3avg kdr
382dmg/match
(does not self-consider being a "vet")

Edited by BillyM, 08 June 2013 - 06:54 AM.

[GoManGo]

Smokeyjedi, on 08 June 2013 - 06:43 AM, said:

You came into this thread with an attitude so smug, and yet you want to understand people............we have a word for that in the English language its called hypocrite. I stated that its not TF2 and that mentality is annoying at best to those of us who want to mix the seriousness of simulation(think GT5 realism), with the futuristic robots(armored core series maybe). Id prefer a clean racing sim to bumpercars online MMO racing anyday. OR MWO VS HAWKEN. It must be that actual intelligence building (or performance increasing)style of gaming that you clearly cant comprehend. I want to challenge, better, or develop something with each drop. not just stand around looking cool. mr 3K posts. always learning always consuming knowledge always getting more proficient. try and keep up.

You just don't get it do you SMOKEY-DA-BEAR? MWO is not about skill or meta or even about simulation its about being a good LEMMING and grinding to hell for that GXP MWO is NOT MechWarrior like the days of MW2-MW4 with true leagues and clans and roleplay,ETC.SO either come play WarThunder which is a simulation or stay and be a good LEMMING and enjoy your grandee game and no brainier gameplay.

[Smokeyjedi]

BillyM, on 08 June 2013 - 06:46 AM, said:

To the original poster: Why don't you work to organize your team, set a plan, support your noobs (let them meat-shield), win matches, and watch your ELO pull you out of the beginner ranks?  For the mean-time, take one of those mechs that just frustrates the heck out of new players (something nimble with face-punch abilities, hbk4sp for example) and get them crossed up while you destroy their newly-purchased assault chassis in half their tonnage.  

A: You will get kills/wins and increase your ELO such that you aren't burdened by their ineptitude.  
B: They will drop their assaults because they "turn too slow" and get in a more deserving chassis.

(if you were a man, you would post your w/l and kdr stats, so we would know if you are truly a "veteran")

--billyM
1.6avg w/l
2.3avg kdr
382dmg/match
(does not self-consider being a "vet")

This is solid advice, but you can only do so much with people who dismiss most of the content spoken in game as radio chatter, who do not consider that I just told them 4 enemies in d4, 2jagger 2catapract,  I then watch them wade in 1 at a time to that zone and be punished so, I can admit sometimes its wrong place wrong time. but that's not consistant with my playstyle.  

Edited by Smokeyjedi, 08 June 2013 - 07:11 AM.