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[OnLashoc]

I just wish they'd quit listening to crybabies and make the game they were going to make.

Stop with the nerf's and buffs and just make the game.

Everytime they cave in it makes another group mad, and throws the entire balance off trying to counter balance their on-a-whim-balancing-because-some-baddies-said-something-was-OP.

[Purlana]

OnLashoc, on 17 June 2013 - 02:17 PM, said:

I just wish they'd quit listening to crybabies and make the game they were going to make.

You mean like 3rd person mode? Ewww!

[OnLashoc]

I'd like 3rd person as an option, with limitations, but yea like 3rd person view whiners.

[PanzerMagier]

OnLashoc, on 17 June 2013 - 02:17 PM, said:

I just wish they'd quit listening to crybabies and make the game they were going to make.

Stop with the nerf's and buffs and just make the game.

Everytime they cave in it makes another group mad, and throws the entire balance off trying to counter balance their on-a-whim-balancing-because-some-baddies-said-something-was-OP.

So you're quite fine with the broken mechanics which means that only 1 maybe 2 weapons are far more superior than everything else. So why don't they just ditch the weapon system? Just give everyone a 6 ppc stalker, yea let's ditch mech types too... You know this is beginning much like cod, maybe you should go play that instead?

I wonder how many hours a week you play... Clearly not enough to actually care or understand how borked the game is right now. So before you open your mouth on OP-is-complaining-about-XYZ-again... Understand that complaining about people who are complaining about issues is like complaining to the firemen who used water to extinguish the fire in your own ******* house.

"God damnit those bloody firemen did it again! I accidently set my own home on fire and they housed it all down again, couldn't they have at least cleaned the house afterwards, they're certainly responsible for all that water damage..."

[OnLashoc]

PanzerMagier, on 18 June 2013 - 06:12 AM, said:

So you're quite fine with the broken mechanics which means that only 1 maybe 2 weapons are far more superior than everything else. So why don't they just ditch the weapon system? Just give everyone a 6 ppc stalker, yea let's ditch mech types too... You know this is beginning much like cod, maybe you should go play that instead?

I wonder how many hours a week you play... Clearly not enough to actually care or understand how borked the game is right now. So before you open your mouth on OP-is-complaining-about-XYZ-again... Understand that complaining about people who are complaining about issues is like complaining to the firemen who used water to extinguish the fire in your own ******* house.

"God damnit those bloody firemen did it again! I accidently set my own home on fire and they housed it all down again, couldn't they have at least cleaned the house afterwards, they're certainly responsible for all that water damage..."

Ok that made no sense.

Who's who to say a mechanic is broken? You clearly are not a dev, and your rant wasn't even entertaining. Who's to say something is OP? You obviously don't know me and are a spoiled child to think everything should be done your way or it's broken.

It is a free to play game and I'm invested, are you? I think I have just as much right to my opinion as you or anyone else.

I say screw the cry babies and make the game, don't give into the whiners because they lack the skill and ability to make best of the same tools everyone else has freely available to them.

[tenderloving]

Sephlock, on 12 June 2013 - 02:27 PM, said:

Honestly I think its more of a convergence issue than anything else, because if you are just carrying a single PPC the current state of PPCs feels about right, IMHO.

This. A single PPC feels adequate. Two is strong. 3 is powerful (The Awesome should be a unique platform for this.) 4 is broken, and 5+ is absurd. It doesn't matter if the platform overheats on shot 2 if the target is dead.

[SpiralRazor]

Because then they would be useless again, and no one would field them.

[DeadlyNerd]

The main problem aren't the heat values but the fact that PGI can't realize that increasing heat threshold instead of heat dissipation is what's aiding high alpha builds and, in OP's case, PPC boats.

Why couldn't they just keep the TT rules and tweak dissipation. Instead they tried to act smart and create their own system that ultimately failed.
Worse, they're denying their failure and attempting to fix by breaking it even further.

This is like putting bondo to cover up rust on your car. The car will continue to rust...

[Pinselborste]

DeadlyNerd, on 18 June 2013 - 07:13 AM, said:

The main problem aren't the heat values but the fact that PGI can't realize that increasing heat threshold instead of heat dissipation is what's aiding high alpha builds and, in OP's case, PPC boats.

Why couldn't they just keep the TT rules and tweak dissipation. Instead they tried to act smart and create their own system that ultimately failed.
Worse, they're denying their failure and attempting to fix by breaking it even further.

they started with the exact TT values for weapons and more than half of the weapons where useless.

the solution would have been to drop the TT values completely, or make the game act like a first Person Version of the TT game where you only target the enemy and rest is decided randomly.

since MWO has totally different game mechanics than the TT game, it would also Need its own weapon stats that are made for exactly those game mechanics.

[MaddMaxx]

PanzerMagier, on 18 June 2013 - 06:12 AM, said:

So you're quite fine with the broken mechanics which means that only 1 maybe 2 weapons are far more superior than everything else. So why don't they just ditch the weapon system? Just give everyone a 6 ppc stalker, yea let's ditch mech types too... You know this is beginning much like cod, maybe you should go play that instead?

I wonder how many hours a week you play... Clearly not enough to actually care or understand how borked the game is right now. So before you open your mouth on OP-is-complaining-about-XYZ-again... Understand that complaining about people who are complaining about issues is like complaining to the firemen who used water to extinguish the fire in your own ******* house.

"God damnit those bloody firemen did it again! I accidently set my own home on fire and they housed it all down again, couldn't they have at least cleaned the house afterwards, they're certainly responsible for all that water damage..."

So you feel it is the 8.00 heat of the PPC's that makes them OP do you? How about why you see almost NO erLarge Lasers on the Field? They do just one less damage, have better range, cool down quicker, but alas, they have 1.5 more Heat per unit.

Are the erLarge Lasers to HOT? If not then we could just add, say 1.5 Heat, to the PPC and that would be acceptable right? Or can you envision the whining and gnashing of teeth a simple 1.5 heat increase would bring as in reality, 1.5 would equate to between 6 and 9 more Heat per Boat Alpha.

We simply cannot allow that right? The PPC would be useless... yet again I would guess.

What is needed is for someone to decide. Damage, Heat, or Range. Having a couple of Weapons with all three is BS and causes these issues we see all over the Forums. And at this point, BT, TT be damned.

[PanzerMagier]

OnLashoc, on 18 June 2013 - 06:21 AM, said:

Ok that made no sense.

Who's who to say a mechanic is broken? You clearly are not a dev, and your rant wasn't even entertaining. Who's to say something is OP? You obviously don't know me and are a spoiled child to think everything should be done your way or it's broken.

It is a free to play game and I'm invested, are you? I think I have just as much right to my opinion as you or anyone else.

I say screw the cry babies and make the game, don't give into the whiners because they lack the skill and ability to make best of the same tools everyone else has freely available to them.

So you're saying ppcs aren't broken even though the devs admitted it? Oh and what's this, name calling? I'm a spoiled child?
Yes, you're quite the mature one, aren't you.
Hypocritical and ironic that someone would actually complain about people complaining...

I'm not going to explain to you why customer complaints, suggestions and feedback is necessary in a business. You're 33 and you're old enough to think for yourself what happens when a company ignores it's customers.

I suggest that you keep quiet before you embarrass yourself some more.

[hashinshin]

because they like people using PPCs.

I know you hate people using PPCs and want to return to the days when PPCs were hilarious to fight as an assault mech as you could just dead charge in to them and they'd overheat loooooooong before you were ever in danger, but those days sucked (unless you were the assault mech.)

Edited by hashinshin, 18 June 2013 - 11:17 AM.

[OnLashoc]

PanzerMagier, on 18 June 2013 - 10:41 AM, said:

So you're saying ppcs aren't broken even though the devs admitted it? Oh and what's this, name calling? I'm a spoiled child?
Yes, you're quite the mature one, aren't you.
Hypocritical and ironic that someone would actually complain about people complaining...

I'm not going to explain to you why customer complaints, suggestions and feedback is necessary in a business. You're 33 and you're old enough to think for yourself what happens when a company ignores it's customers.

I suggest that you keep quiet before you embarrass yourself some more.

If they said they are broke, proof please, then quit whining, they fix them when they get to them.

Again, spoil child syndrome in full effect.

[SpiralRazor]

Indeed, link proof or shut up your suck hole.

Edited by SpiralRazor, 18 June 2013 - 11:39 AM.