Jump to content

Perfectly Timed Patch Day, Pgi Manages To Accomplish No Balance Changes Whatsoever. Offers More Promises Instead.


82 replies to this topic

#61 hammerreborn

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Legendary Founder
  • Legendary Founder
  • 3,063 posts
  • LocationAlexandria, VA

Posted 18 June 2013 - 10:54 AM

View PostProphetic, on 18 June 2013 - 10:12 AM, said:

I guess PGI will have plenty of employees around to implement this huge patch in July. It's not like there are lots of people going on vacation around July 4th week.

I'm not sure what constitutes a huge patch from them anymore.

I just spent money on this game because of the proposed weapons changes that were misrepresented to be in this patch.

I will not spend another dime on this game until I see CW. I do not care what maps, weapon changes, new hero mechs come out.
I do not believe anything that you present to us anymore.
I will only believe it when it happens.

No CW = no interest from me or anyone else that I keep convincing to stay and play this game.


I don't think there are that many canadians celebrating Independence Day.

#62 El Bandito

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Big Daddy
  • Big Daddy
  • 26,736 posts
  • LocationStill doing ungodly amount of damage, but with more accuracy.

Posted 18 June 2013 - 10:56 AM

View PostTarrasque, on 18 June 2013 - 10:33 AM, said:

I love how everyone is bitching bout LPLs (that apparently never use them anyways). Obviously PGI needs us to test them in their current iteration for future balancing.... why is that so hard to understand? It's definitely a light patch, but really, what do you expect? Why can't people just go 'Oh, well that's cool, they're still working on this game I play', and hope for some more next time? I guess I just don't wake up on patch day for MWO waiting for the notes to make or break how I feel..


You have to be a total {encumber} to raise LPL's heat to damage ratio. There shouldn't even be any testing to know this.

PGI had just gone full [redacted].

Edited by miSs, 18 June 2013 - 03:57 PM.


#63 Trauglodyte

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,373 posts

Posted 18 June 2013 - 10:58 AM

View PostEl Bandito, on 18 June 2013 - 10:56 AM, said:


You have to be a total r3tard to raise LPL's heat to damage ratio. There shouldn't even be any testing to know this.

PGI had just gone full r3tard.


Bandit, you do nothing but ***** endlessly on this board about everything. That you think the game developers of something that you spend your time and energy on are "*******" means nothing.

#64 El Bandito

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Big Daddy
  • Big Daddy
  • 26,736 posts
  • LocationStill doing ungodly amount of damage, but with more accuracy.

Posted 18 June 2013 - 10:58 AM

View Posthammerreborn, on 18 June 2013 - 10:54 AM, said:

I don't think there are that many canadians celebrating Independence Day.


But they will celebrate Canada Day--which is on July 1st.

#65 RG Notch

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • The 1 Percent
  • 2,987 posts
  • LocationNYC

Posted 18 June 2013 - 10:58 AM

View PostTarrasque, on 18 June 2013 - 10:52 AM, said:


I'm sorry that a video game can twist you like that... I just paid 60 bucks cuz I thought it'd be fun to support something I enjoy, even if it goes up in flames. I don't really have a solution for people who are emotionally invested and incensed by the direction this game is going, logic dictates that a video game doesn't really mean THAT much.

You only have so much control over things in life, I suggest you (and those who feel the way you do) save your frustration for things that actually matter.

I'm always puzzled by these reactions too. What do these people do if an actual serious tragedy happens in their lives if spending money and having hopes for a video game ( A VIDEO GAME :) ) make them react like this.
It's not like I'm happy with their pace or choices, but geeze people.

#66 MaddMaxx

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Survivor
  • Survivor
  • 5,911 posts
  • LocationNova Scotia, Canada

Posted 18 June 2013 - 10:59 AM

View PostJade Kitsune, on 18 June 2013 - 10:38 AM, said:

snip

See the pattern? This is why people are pissed.


Actually the pattern is that the "player(s)" are pissed.

People tend to be much more mature, understanding and have at least half of a clue.

Players on the other hand... :)

#67 El Bandito

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Big Daddy
  • Big Daddy
  • 26,736 posts
  • LocationStill doing ungodly amount of damage, but with more accuracy.

Posted 18 June 2013 - 10:59 AM

View PostTrauglodyte, on 18 June 2013 - 10:58 AM, said:

Bandit, you do nothing but ***** endlessly on this board about everything. That you think the game developers of something that you spend your time and energy on are "*******" means nothing.


Then why are you concerned about it?

Moreover, show me a thread where I bitched about something that wasn't flawed.

Edited by El Bandito, 18 June 2013 - 11:00 AM.


#68 MaddMaxx

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Survivor
  • Survivor
  • 5,911 posts
  • LocationNova Scotia, Canada

Posted 18 June 2013 - 11:00 AM

View PostPEEFsmash, on 18 June 2013 - 10:38 AM, said:


I don't even see anything in the patch notes that suggests that they are even working towards better balance. In fact, I don't see any meaningful balance changes at all! Even though the needed changes are staring them in the face and they recognize it (in some cases for months) they do nothing. Nothing at all. They can't fix one single important balance issue, even when it is as easy as changing 1 digit of 1 number in a single file. That does not inspire confidence.

Honestly, I'm starting to think they are lazy or don't care. Their pattern of delays of simple things reminds me of a high-school student who was given a big, several week assignment and only works on it for 15 minutes a week, expecting that they can just do it all on the last night.


If we are doing impressions then the impression I am getting is your age is 11.

#69 deforce

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Philanthropist
  • Philanthropist
  • 616 posts
  • LocationHawaii

Posted 18 June 2013 - 11:02 AM

congrats, your thread made it to k-town too.

#70 Tarrasque

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 354 posts
  • LocationDetroit, MI

Posted 18 June 2013 - 11:03 AM

View PostEl Bandito, on 18 June 2013 - 10:56 AM, said:


You have to be a total {encumber} to raise LPL's heat to damage ratio. There shouldn't even be any testing to know this.

PGI had just gone full [redacted].


Ok, one more try...

Look at it this way - PGI 'normalized' the values for ALL pulse lasers - this is not intended to do anything but lay the groundwork for more balanced pulse lasers by giving them information likely on whether or not the damage to heat ratios of each weapons system can be scaled so there isn't so much random number assignment to everything.

Does that make more sense? This is not an adjustment to improve gameplay - PGI needs large scale information from real games so that they can ultimately change pulse lasers again. Relax guys.

#71 Prophetic

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Giant Helper
  • Giant Helper
  • 750 posts
  • LocationEast Coast, USA

Posted 18 June 2013 - 11:05 AM

View PostDagger6T6, on 18 June 2013 - 10:41 AM, said:


July 4th is an American Holiday... they don't really celebrate it in Canada. They however do have Canada Day which is on July 1st, so I suspect they will have a nice 3 day weekend and hit the ground running for the rest of July

What proposed weapon changes were misrepresented? I think maybe SSRM changes was supposed to be in but guess it got pushed back, but I also think it never had a hard date. Projected dates always change... the patch notes are the patch notes. I never expect anything from a Command Chair post or any other dev post until I see it in the patch notes.

The day a planetary map shows up in MWO is the day I activate my Founder's Premium time... still holding onto it.

I prefer to look at what we actually got with the patch than what we didn't get... half full half empty... but that's just me.


I didn't say they were an American company. I just said people go away during that week. You just validated my statement with mentioning Canada day.

This was supposed to be a big patch. We instead get a machine gun and flamer buff. Large pulse nerf. A new mech that was not even on the schdule to be released now.

Yes they did something but what about this patch shows you that PGI has any idea on what direction to go?
What are the most important issues right now?
12 man? CW phase .001? PPC changes? SRMs buff/rework? Matchmaking? Groups between 5-8? New Maps?

It's what they continue to ignore that is the real issue. At least they are spending lots of resources a on cockpit items and 3rd person view.

#72 MaddMaxx

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Survivor
  • Survivor
  • 5,911 posts
  • LocationNova Scotia, Canada

Posted 18 June 2013 - 11:08 AM

View PostEl Bandito, on 18 June 2013 - 10:59 AM, said:


Then why are you concerned about it?

Moreover, show me a thread where I bitched about something that wasn't flawed.


So your telling us that if something isn't flawless, you reserve the right to ***** about it? That about it?

Posted Image

#73 El Bandito

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Big Daddy
  • Big Daddy
  • 26,736 posts
  • LocationStill doing ungodly amount of damage, but with more accuracy.

Posted 18 June 2013 - 11:08 AM

View PostTarrasque, on 18 June 2013 - 11:03 AM, said:

Ok, one more try... Look at it this way - PGI 'normalized' the values for ALL pulse lasers - this is not intended to do anything but lay the groundwork for more balanced pulse lasers by giving them information likely on whether or not the damage to heat ratios of each weapons system can be scaled so there isn't so much random number assignment to everything. Does that make more sense? This is not an adjustment to improve gameplay - PGI needs large scale information from real games so that they can ultimately change pulse lasers again. Relax guys.


How the hell are you going to test all that when almost no one will even pick LPL after this?

#74 CMDR Sunset Shimmer

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Legendary Founder
  • Legendary Founder
  • 5,341 posts
  • Twitch: Link
  • LocationNetherlands

Posted 18 June 2013 - 11:09 AM

View PostTarrasque, on 18 June 2013 - 10:52 AM, said:


I'm sorry that a video game can twist you like that... I just paid 60 bucks cuz I thought it'd be fun to support something I enjoy, even if it goes up in flames. I don't really have a solution for people who are emotionally invested and incensed by the direction this game is going, logic dictates that a video game doesn't really mean THAT much.

You only have so much control over things in life, I suggest you (and those who feel the way you do) save your frustration for things that actually matter.


You don't have personal, family ties to the Battletech IP either.

#75 El Bandito

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Big Daddy
  • Big Daddy
  • 26,736 posts
  • LocationStill doing ungodly amount of damage, but with more accuracy.

Posted 18 June 2013 - 11:09 AM

View PostMaddMaxx, on 18 June 2013 - 11:08 AM, said:

So your telling us that if something isn't flawless, you reserve the right to ***** about it? That about it?


If pointing out the flaws is considered bitching, then why not? I have the right.

You don't intentionally gimp an already unpopular weapon--thus making it even less desirable and thus giving people less incentive to try out new things or play in general. It is all counter productive.

Edited by El Bandito, 18 June 2013 - 11:13 AM.


#76 WanderingSoul

    Member

  • PipPipPip
  • Little Helper
  • Little Helper
  • 64 posts
  • LocationEast Coast

Posted 18 June 2013 - 11:28 AM

This thread:
Posted Image

#77 Prophetic

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Giant Helper
  • Giant Helper
  • 750 posts
  • LocationEast Coast, USA

Posted 18 June 2013 - 11:38 AM

View Posthammerreborn, on 18 June 2013 - 10:54 AM, said:


I don't think there are that many canadians celebrating Independence Day.


Who said they were?

#78 Kaio-Kerensky x10

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Ace Of Spades
  • 331 posts

Posted 18 June 2013 - 12:21 PM

View PostJade Kitsune, on 18 June 2013 - 11:09 AM, said:


You don't have personal, family ties to the Battletech IP either.

Did your uncle work for FASA

#79 codynyc

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Legendary Founder
  • Legendary Founder
  • 324 posts
  • Google+: Link
  • Locationda Bronx

Posted 18 June 2013 - 12:35 PM

LMAO ... And you guys expected something to be accomplished? But you still have people giving them money. Like i said before pgi promises one thing and turns around 180 on EVERYTHING...

#80 Sephlock

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Legendary Founder
  • Legendary Founder
  • 10,819 posts

Posted 18 June 2013 - 01:05 PM

View PostEl Bandito, on 18 June 2013 - 11:08 AM, said:



How the hell are you going to test all that when almost no one will even pick LPL after this?
People will, just not those of us that know better.

Hell, I know better and I still can't resist taking MGs out for a spin once in a while :).



1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users