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[BlackWidow]

Geminus, on 19 June 2013 - 11:10 AM, said:

And if he can say it there, why is it forbidden to be posted here? Again, this is ALL that I am after, A dev post stating the official position, here, on the MWO community forums. The community is here. Post the info, HERE.

Q. Will the unseen Mechs make it into the game after all?

A. Look forward to a future announcement.

*THAT* is the official line until further notice. They aren't being coy outside of the fact they have said they are NOT PREPARED tO DISCUSS IT AT THE CURRENT TIME.

That is not the answer you are looking for, but it IS an official answer.

You want a YES or NO. Well, the answer isn't even MAYBE. It's WE'RE NOT TELLING YOU RIGHT NOW.

And yes. It sucks. But, for all that is hell and holy, we don't even have any information to speak of on the CLANS and we KNOW they will be in. So, just consider that anecdotal tidbit.

Edited by BlackWidow, 19 June 2013 - 11:22 AM.

[Geminus]

TheCaptainJZ, on 19 June 2013 - 11:16 AM, said:

From Ask the Devs 31:


It doesn't say much, but you did ask if the devs have ever answered the question and they have.

Holy crap. I go through those with a comb. Thank you. This is what its about, a linkable quote by someone that works on the team. That's the golden ticket Charlie.

That's why your the captain.

BlackWidow, on 19 June 2013 - 11:18 AM, said:

Q. Will the unseen Mechs make it into the game after all?

A. Look forward to a future announcement.

*THAT* is the official line until further notice. They aren't being coy outside of the fact they have said they are NOT PREPARED tO DISCUSS IT AT THE CURRENT TIME.

That is not the answer you are looking for, but it IS an official answer.

You want a YES or NO. Well, the answer isn't even MAYBE. It's WE'RE NOT TELLING YOU RIGHT NOW.

And yes. It sucks. But, for all that is hell and holy, we don't even have any information to speak of on the CLANS and we KNOW they will be in. So, just consider that anecdotal tidbit.

That's the one I was referring to that was in the old FAQ. That was a long time ago. They said its coming, so.........

Edited by Geminus, 19 June 2013 - 11:33 AM.

[Dagger6T6]

Geminus, on 19 June 2013 - 11:10 AM, said:

you linked to a page that has literally 100s of videos, which one is, I want to watch it. if the info is there, awesome, my quest nears the finish line. if, not ever forward.

And if he can say it there, why is it forbidden to be posted here? Again, this is ALL that I am after, A dev post stating the official position, here, on the MWO community forums. The community is here. Post the info, HERE.

I get what you are saying, and wanting to have just a definitive word on the matter here in the forums I can understand.

But as with all quests the journey is never easy... and it's not really a quest at all if you are a king on a throne saying "bring me the chalice!" versus say being a knight and going out to retrieve the chalice yourself. All I can say is that the info you seek is there in that mass of videos. Russ Bullock has only been on the live stream probably about 5 times. If words to ears will satisfy your need then the end of your journey could be closer than you think. So I'm sorta like your friendly wizard pointing you in the direction, but I'm far to old and feeble to come along on your quest. So I wish you luck and success.

Mulder, the truth is out there.

[von Pilsner]

They have announced several future announcements and future command chair posts that did not happen.

I would not hold my breath while waiting, perhaps you'd get a better and quicker answer using twitter @MWO and @BryanEkman (I know, I know...)

[Geminus]

Dagger6T6, on 19 June 2013 - 11:33 AM, said:

I get what you are saying, and wanting to have just a definitive word on the matter here in the forums I can understand.

But as with all quests the journey is never easy... and it's not really a quest at all if you are a king on a throne saying "bring me the chalice!" versus say being a knight and going out to retrieve the chalice yourself. All I can say is that the info you seek is there in that mass of videos. Russ Bullock has only been on the live stream probably about 5 times. If words to ears will satisfy your need then the end of your journey could be closer than you think. So I'm sorta like your friendly wizard pointing you in the direction, but I'm far to old and feeble to come along on your quest. So I wish you luck and success.

Mulder, the truth is out there.

I ask not that you bring me the chalice. I have been out there, reading, watching, posting, listening, to my embarrassment, I missed a crucial nugget of info here on MWO in ask the devs, something I read religiously. I even asked this question in the very ask the Devs where they posted an answer to a very similar question. now you gave me a great lead, I simply ask I you can narrow it down to maybe 24 hours of video to go through instead o 2,400

Edited by Geminus, 19 June 2013 - 11:49 AM.

[Angel of Annihilation]

Geminus, on 19 June 2013 - 07:24 AM, said:

Again. This is not a post asking for the mechs. Its asking for a response. The response can be no, could be that they cant talk about, it could be that they don't care, but it would be a response. It would be its own little command post that when ever anyone asks about it, they could be directed to and have their answer. That would stop us asking questions.

And if a mech is developed and ready to go, they can put it in whenever they want. They can put 100 mechs in in one month of they are ready, its their choice to meter them out, but that's off topic.

Actually as far as I recall they said back in closed beta that these mechs were unlikely to be seen in MWO. Don't have the link or remember exactly what was said but that was the geist of it. Maybe someone else can recall the exact dev post or conversation.

[Adrienne Vorton]

Hotthedd, on 18 June 2013 - 07:33 PM, said:

Sorry mate, but you are already playing MW:O. In case you have not gotten the message yet, it is the phantom FUTURE players that are important.

evil, but that´s exactly how i felt after reading the last AtD... (well actually you have to read it together with the statement from a while back: "The closed beta belonged to you, the die hard mechwarrior fans, but we have to try to get new players into the game"... gives a much more complete picture)

sry for offtopic, but actually i don´t really care for the unseen anymore... i am disillusioned enough already, that they could put in the hwaken mechs, and i´d say "yea, somehow fits the concept"...

i´ll better go to sleep now

Edited by Adrienne Vorton, 19 June 2013 - 01:02 PM.

[General Taskeen]

Rifleman-IIC.

[Gaan Cathal]

Just to sate the curiosity of a Mechwarrior player, as opposed to a Battletech player (i.e. started with MW2)...

Why all the Unseen vs Reseen debates regarding MW:O? I get, in a conceptual sense, the argument when it comes to TRO artwork, models, etc. But the Reseen are all fairly similar to their Unseen ancestor as far as I've seen and any mech that makes it into MW:O will be redesigned by Mr Awesome Mech Designer to fit with the MW:O art style. Ergo it'll look as close to the Unseen and Reseen as they look to eachother. So I just don't get the "I want X in MW:O but only if it's Unseen, **** Reseen!" cries when it'll get a redesign anyway.

[General Taskeen]

Because certain Reseen Mechs don't have the original "unseen" name, so they can be legally used. As in, less hassle.

[Xeno Phalcon]

Im hoping we will at least get some MWO style reseens sooner then later, but I think they are hesitant to go that route as most of the reseens were met with hissing and spitting (cause they are butt ugly). That being said some of our current mechs really dont look much like their TRO art, the quickdraw, trenchbucket, centurion and even to some degree the orion.

Odds are though we wont see any MWOseens till after the clan invasion stuff has been out for awhile.

[Geminus]

Adrienne Vorton, on 19 June 2013 - 12:55 PM, said:

evil, but that´s exactly how i felt after reading the last AtD... (well actually you have to read it together with the statement from a while back: "The closed beta belonged to you, the die hard mechwarrior fans, but we have to try to get new players into the game"... gives a much more complete picture)

sry for offtopic, but actually i don´t really care for the unseen anymore... i am disillusioned enough already, that they could put in the hwaken mechs, and i´d say "yea, somehow fits the concept"...

i´ll better go to sleep now

I understand your feelings

[Ace Selin]

Whilst a response would be nice, im not overly fussed about the unseen mechs (love the Warhammer / Marauder) but there are so many other good mechs to take their place, if we get more mechs, im happy.

Edited by Ace Selin, 19 June 2013 - 09:57 PM.

[DirePhoenix]

SMDMadCow, on 19 June 2013 - 08:34 AM, said:

CGL has a standing policy that if artwork wasnt done in house, then they wont use it in their publicatons.
I dont know if PGI got their liscence from CGL, Topps, or M$.

Topps owns the rights to all Battletech/Mechwarrior imagery in print media. Catalyst licenses art from Topps. You will not be seeing MWO's art in printed books from Catalyst (like Tech Readouts). Likewise, since PGI does not license from Topps, you will not be seeing any artwork designs that have appeared in print media in MWO.

NONE OF OUR CURRENT 'MECHS ARE USING ART FROM THE BOOKS. ALL OUR CURRENT MWO ART IS "NEW" ART.

As such, if PGI were to place the "Unseen" in MWO, it would be using brand new art, made specifically for MWO. (and seriously, at least half the unseen would have to be redesigned anyway in order to work within a 3D environment where they can't have magical colliding geometry and also incorporate torso twist, swappable weapon geometry, or other features).

The only reason they would have to not make the unseen is if the design (hardpoint layout/tonnage/etc.) is superfluous to an already existing or planned 'mech. Not because of artwork licensing woes. The "legal battle" over the original artwork is "not an issue" when they can just as easily (as we've seen with all the other redesigns) come up with their own art.

[DukeDublin]

There are 'Harmony Gold' mechs and 'Unseen' mechs.

Harmony Gold mechs are an absolute 0% chance.

[DirePhoenix]

In light of recent announcements, I would like to re-state the following:

DirePhoenix, on 20 June 2013 - 10:42 AM, said:

The only reason they would have to not make the unseen is if the design (hardpoint layout/tonnage/etc.) is superfluous to an already existing or planned 'mech. Not because of artwork licensing woes. The "legal battle" over the original artwork is "not an issue" when they can just as easily (as we've seen with all the other redesigns) come up with their own art.

Also, I'm still waiting for a new Marauder.

Edited by DirePhoenix, 25 June 2013 - 11:08 AM.

[Tennex]

guess you've got your answer

[FupDup]

SURPRISE M0THAFUCKAS!!!

http://mwomercs.com/phoenix

Edited by FupDup, 25 June 2013 - 11:43 AM.

[SMDMadCow]

FupDup, on 25 June 2013 - 11:42 AM, said:

SURPRISE M0THAFUCKAS!!!

http://mwomercs.com/phoenix

What up now naysayers?

[BlackWidow]

FupDup, on 25 June 2013 - 11:42 AM, said:

SURPRISE M0THAFUCKAS!!!

http://mwomercs.com/phoenix

How the HELL did that pass the language filter?

Good thing it did 'cause nothing else would do it justice!